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Posts by Jimmu  

Joined: 26 Aug 2011 / Male ♂
Last Post: 27 May 2014
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Posts: 156
From: Poland, near Chocianów
Speaks Polish?: A little, poorly

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Jimmu   
15 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

excepting certain of the traditional Ivy Leagues, of course

Dubyuh was Ivy League. I think that eliminates your exception. :->
Jimmu   
15 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.
Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277
(1953).
Jimmu   
13 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

so American in fact that she might even be mistaken for a spy

Nah. While her English is good, she retains a hint of Natasha Fatale in her accent that would be a dead giveaway.
As far as declining standards, I remember hearing the same thing back in the 60s. Seems like standards are always declining, and yet 150 years ago most people couldn't write their own name.
Jimmu   
13 Nov 2011
Language / Polish language diary and language skills [5]

When you return to Ireland I would be willing to send you a Polish diary in exchange for almost anything written in English! Ok, maybe not religious tracts or Harlequin romances........
Jimmu   
13 Nov 2011
Language / Need Advice On Polish-English language barrier (my Polish boyfriend and his family) [59]

Why do I keep seeing things like this on PF? I get the impression that at least half of the more prominent posters are professional or semi-professional language teachers. And yet the "get your gf/bf/in-laws to teach you Polish" comments go unchallenged! I am an educated, well read and fluent native speaker of English, but I suffer no illusions that I would be a good English teacher. Teaching requires skills, knowledge, and education that I and most bf/gf/in-laws do not have. I can, and have served as a tutor or maybe sparring partner for people learning English as a second language. I can answer some specific questions and help people get comfortable with speaking English but I would hate to be a student with me as the teacher!

When somebody asks "How do I learn to speak Polish?" the answers should be either "Find a good teacher." or "Learn the way Poles do. Trial and error and endless repetition." keeping in mind that being older it may take you 3 or 4 times as long as the 5 years or so it takes them to achieve basic competence.

Quoting myself:"Teaching requires skills, knowledge, and education.." and I forgot the most important thing. PATIENCE!
Jimmu   
13 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

Jimmu, as she's your wife, for cryin' out loud, of course her English is going to sound bloody "excellent".

Well, in 10 years living in the US (which, despite what some of the yank bashers may say has quite a few native English speakers) the general consensus was that her English was excellent. And as far as "educated" goes, I worked for 30 years at a college where doctorates were pretty run of the mill. What I was asking her to do was the simplest word-for-word translation, and she insisted on giving me idiomatic interpretation. Your argument might be valid if she insisted on the opposite.

Poles often do not properly differentiate between phrasal verbs, colloquialisms, slang and idioms

"This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put."
WC (more or less a quote)
Jimmu   
11 Nov 2011
Life / Gifts from Poland (I'm returning to my country after a year in Poland) [36]

The effects after drinking absinthe are similar to those induced by good quality cannabis but are shorter-lasting. I hear.

Which did you hear about and which came from personal experience? Hehehehe

If you're going somewhere you can take agricultural products... What about the smoked cheeses they sell up in the mountains? I'm not sure how they taste, but they look great!
Jimmu   
11 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

This is not the case with my wife. There are some gaps in her knowledge (British and other regional slang drives her up the wall!) but overall her English is excellent with just enough accent to give her speech a hint of the exotic. It isn't that she can't, it's that she won't. She thinks it's a method with no value. End of story.
Jimmu   
11 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

most of the material you see on the likes of Discovery or National Geographic are originally English language

So what's wrong with at least giving me the option of turning the demned thing off? On cyfra+ Discovery Science gives you the option, but the Discovery channel doesn't. Go figger.

Oh, and according to my wife "having a cat" is an idiom for being stupid or crazy. (Not sure which) Maybe like in American English "having a cow"?
Jimmu   
9 Nov 2011
Language / How hard is it to learn Polish? [178]

I ask my wife to give me literal word for word translations of Polish phrases into English so that I can get a sense of how Poles put words together. She refuses. Maybe she's too proud to speak English poorly.
Jimmu   
9 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

And we translators need to feed our kids somehow ;)

You get paid more writing a script for a lektor than you do for writing the same dialogue as subtitles?

I don't think there was any TV before the WW II.

But there was a movie theater or two. But then the American movies I've seen in Polish theaters have all been subtitled, not dubbed. Is that the general rule, or have I just not seen enough movies here for a fair representation?
Jimmu   
7 Nov 2011
Language / Kurwa? at end of every sentence [51]

I almost never heard the word in Chorzów. But here in the country.....
One bright light is that I can now understand about half of what the neighbor says. Every other word.
Jimmu   
7 Nov 2011
Life / Polish dubbing in movies; why is it so that on polish television all the films are dubbed? [135]

I HATE it!
With subtitles I might learn something, but lektor obfuscates the English to the point that I have no clue what's being said. And the English peeks through just often enough to distract me from trying to figure out the Polish. But I guess if my Polish was good and my English wasn't I might like it. :-<

I did see a funny kabaret skit about lektor for a scene with lots of foul language. Everything came out as "terra ferra"(sp?)
Jimmu   
2 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

There aren't many things for an engine to snag on right beside the runway. They like to design them that way. :->
More likely would be if he came in rolled to one side and only one engine scraped. He seemed to bring the plane down with equal weight on each engine. While watching the recording I kept thinking "This is how it's supposed to be done, but 'this is reality!'"
Jimmu   
2 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

I wouldn't stay up in the air for longer than necessary unless I was aware of a problem.

The problem wasn't staying up in the air, the problem was landing. I don't know if 767s can dump fuel or can only burn it off, but even if dumping was possible the citizens of Warsaw might not appreciate having an hours worth of fuel dumped on them.
Jimmu   
1 Nov 2011
Classifieds / English cuisine week in Lidl shops in Poland [203]

Wiki says: "The English word scampi is the plural of Italian scampo," and we know Wiki is never wrong!
Ok, I'll check a few more places...

I think this may be a case of British/American false friends.
To me, scampi is a style of preparation (butter, garlic, white wine...) and it seems like to Brits it's a kind of fish.
Jimmu   
1 Nov 2011
News / Polish hero pilot lands 767 without wheels. (Warsaw) [191]

That'll be it. Fat American bounces off the slide and injures elbow :)

Seems it was a LOT stewardess who broke her leg. I guess you'll have to find something else to bash yanks about.
Jimmu   
29 Oct 2011
Love / Advice Please! Meeting my Polish boyfriend's parents!! Gifts, customs... [105]

Take her parents a gift (sound like an american with that one lol) ?

Yes, you sound like someone concerned with respecting the customs and mores of a place you are about to visit. Hehehehe
Anyway, flowers for the mother and a bottle for the father seem to be standard. The better the booze the more points you will score. Doesn't have to be Wodka, but if Wodka, Chopin or Bellevedere.

My wife says:
"Firm handshake for the father and kiss mamma's hand." (Corney, maybe, but it worked for me.)
"Eat whatever is offered. And praise to the heavens anything home-cooked."
"If you don't speak Polish, nod, smile, and say OK a lot in response to whatever is said to you."
Also, most Brits seem to think Poles over heat their houses a lot. Even as an American who spent the last 40 years in California I think they over heat a bit.

Oh, and learn to sing "Sto lat". If you're there for more than 3 days an occasion while arise in which it will be appropriate.