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Kurt   
16 May 2011
UK, Ireland / A South African moving to Poland with Polish wife- we live in London. Excited and scared. [27]

Hi

This is my first post ever but i have read a few conversations and found the info very helpfull.

My wife and I are considering leaving London to go and settle in Krakow with our 4 year old daughter in august, my wifes wants to complete her studies in Poland.

I have my own energy consultancy registered in the UK will i be liable to pay tax in Poland even though i will not be earning in poland? my marriage is registered in Poland since 2008 will i still need to wait 3 yrs to apply for Polish citizenship once i live in Poland?

Anyways guys and girls, I am excited and scared, if there are any cool peeps around krakow that would like to keep in contact and perhaps meet up for a beer that would be good, If anything i would like to have my own circle of friends and not rely on my wifes friends...
Kurt   
18 May 2011
UK, Ireland / A South African moving to Poland with Polish wife- we live in London. Excited and scared. [27]

Hi Londz. cheers for you comments, I have discussed the citizenship with the Polish Embassy in London and they to confirm i can apply for Polish citizenship after 2 years of uninterrupted stay and this can be done through municipal office in Poland from what I heard.

The challenge however is the tax in Poland what I have found out is that a person is classified as a resident if your stay is more than 184 days and also irrespective if your business is registered in the UK if your main business activities are from Poland you would be liable to pay tax in the country i.e Poland.

In response to the other comments from others, firstly thanks appreciate it!

Paying tax in Poland seems the obvious thing to do if i intend to live permanantly but the problem is the earnings after 85000PLN is taxed at 32% anythign before that is taxed at 19% 85000ZL is around £20,000 i turn over more than 20K and 32% seems a bit heavy :-) in the UK its 21% up to 1.5Mil, What benefits would i have by opening a branch in Poland as part of the HQ in UK?

Oh and sorry for the delayed reply, i was checking in "private mail" to see if anyone responded :-(

I am thinking of setting up a business in Poland once i have settled in but something different from what i am currently doing... would be happy to meet like minded people in krakow or near.
Kurt   
19 May 2011
UK, Ireland / A South African moving to Poland with Polish wife- we live in London. Excited and scared. [27]

delphiandomine
(Correct. However, if you merely draw dividends from a UK business - then it's a flat 19% tax on all dividends. However, I can't see it making much sense - you'll have to pay UK corporation tax, then the 19% in Poland on top - so effectively a tax rate of around 40%. )

My accountant is looking into this for me, from what I have read on the HMRC website and from conversations with Polish consulate you cannot be taxed in 2 countries, you can choose to pay tax in the UK for example or in Poland its finding out whats the best option.. this is what i am trying to establish, I have been sent a quote from a Lawyer in Poland to provide advice however they want to charge me 900Euro, thats seems a bit pricey for advice :-)..

As for the clothing 1500zl is not profit margins to get excited about, what I am hoping to achieve is to not pay tax in Poland on my UK business and keep all my taxes etc in UK, and if i can open a small business in Poland just to show I am atleast paying taxes to the goverment might make things less complicated when it comes round to apply for citizenship, i think they might frown if i have been living in the country spending pounds and paying taxes in UK but want to apply for Polish citizenship..

appreciate everyones suggestions....
Kurt   
19 May 2011
UK, Ireland / A South African moving to Poland with Polish wife- we live in London. Excited and scared. [27]

Im good AIl11, cheers will deifnately look into that, We going over to Krakow next week to look at a view properties to rent in the city centre.

@-Londz, clothing is not something i have really given much thought but had a conversation with someone and it appears there might be an opportunity to make some Zl :-) .

I have a few connections in Cape Town and JHb where i can pay around £2 for T-shirts etc. there is also a possibilitie of getting things directly from China.... to be honest this is not something i will put allot of time into because the profit margins potentially will be rather small.

Ideally i would like to approach stores maybe get them to buy large orders from me and just sell it in their shops. i propably would consider hiring someone to stand a market stalls etc..

What about native speaker? how does that work?
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

my wife and I are thinking of going to Poland,
The problem is our marriage has been going through a rough patch to a point where we were going to get divorce and it would get nasty we decided perhaps we move to poland and see how it goes but my wife is not sure if she loves me anymore as she said.

I am from outside the EU currently a resident of UK if i go to Poland I will apply for Polishresidency my wife said ok if we move we can live seperately and we can remain married on paper to allow me to apply for the residency because we have a 3 year old daughter.

My fear is that once we are in Poland that my wife could turn around and screw me by exploiting me to pay massive amounts of child support and demand more things because if i dont she will file for divorce and then i will lose my daughter because i wll have to leave Poland.

She was happy with going and so was I, today i said i am not sure about going to Poland because of fear she might screw me over, and this morning she has been on the phone etc to loads of solicitors saying she wants this amount of money and this and that.. this was merely because i said im thinking going to Poland with her given our situation is not the best thing for me.. I dont speak Polish and dont know anyone there.

So what are my rights as a foreigner married to a polish national and we have a kid, if we get to poland and she decides she wants to screw me, will i be able to stay in Poland to be with my daughter? i would appreciate anyones advice who has had or heard of similar situation..

cheers
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Harry thanks,

(To be honest, if she decides she wants to screw you over, there is nothing stopping her from taking the kid to Poland and filing for divorce while you are not there)

I think the only reason she has not done that is because she wants money from me.
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Harry i want to support my daughter.. but as you know i have my own business, my wife said something to me in passing, the law in poland works, if we are divorce i will have to pay child support which is standard but also lets say if i rent a flat in kazimierz for example i will also need to make sure that my ex-wife and my daughter will live in the same standards.. do u know anything about that? so what i have to pay child support and pay her rent?
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

@ Midas- thanks for your message,

Firstly I am not having a go at Polish woman or labelling them in any way, the reality is that I do have a Polish with :-) that appears to have become a bit dodgy. and no im not being paranoid she told me she will leave with my child and i will never see her again. this same polish wife has not worked since we have been married and we live in a 4 bedroo house and i pay all the bills and food etc. but for her its still not enough..,. so if i have offended any Polish woman i do apologize its not my intention.

Moving along swiftly..

I know moving to Poland will make me very weak especially with no language too, I really want to make things work and thats why i decided to move to Poland but i know moving there with a wife that says she is not sure if she loves me is not the right thing to do. getting divorce in Britian would be better because i will have equall rights as a farther going through the process of divorce in UK would mean shared custody and my wife would not be able to leave UK permanantly with our daughter so she will have to remain in UK.. she made it clear she is not happy here and thats why i compromised and said ok instead of getting divorce here that will mean she will have to stay lets move to poland and see how things work. she is happy i am happy because i can spend time with my daughter and i like Krakow but the fear of arriving there with no leg to stand on is scary..

I know getting a divorce here is best, but this was my last option and one i did not want to come to.. if i can apply for a residency in Poland as a farther to a Polish child I will take a risk and go,,, but i dont want to go to Poland and apply for a residency doc on the grounds of still being married if we are living seperately, thats illegal and also who knows my wife could wake up in a bad mood and decide ah todays the day i get him deported.
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

@ Midas :-) quality..

to be honest i dont know what the deal is with this... because i get compared to her friends husbands but most of them live in shared accomodation or both of them works.. i was told that as a man its my responsibilitie to pay for everything and on top of that i should also give her spending money each month.. i have never heard of such a load of crap. are other Polish men really doing that.. and I am definately not the kind of person that says oh this is a womans job etc...

This wife does not cook 4 yrs of marriage cooked 15% i cook everyday prior to self employment i had to come home from work at 7 take something out the freezer and cook dinner. she cant because she was looking after our child.. she cleans though i cant take that away from her she cleans good :-)

Its crazy...
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

@ Koala,

I am now pretty sure i am going to stay in London and file for a divorce here.
The first thing to do would to go and see a family solicitor to guide and advise me on the best course of action to take.

So i will go see someone on Wednesday, the crap is we are still living under the same roof-- at the moment i still get to spend everyday with my child so for that I am gratefull.

My wife just said she wants me to go to a solicitor to sign an agreement giving her rights to remove our child from UK.. which i am not prepaired to do.. i want to get out of living together but if i leave i will have to continue paying for this house and obviously any new property that i will let because she does not have any money to find something..

this is a ****** place to be at the moment.. i just want it to end so i can move on with my life and focus on whats most important to me, my relationship with daughter.
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

@ Zimmy i have asked that question because i do suspect something like that could be possible but her obvious answer is "she does not have anyone"

to be honest, i think for the moment i should just be realistic and honest to myself about this relationship its clearly not working and it wont work and despite my best efforts to try and salvage this marriage it cant work if both parties are not equally committed to making things work.
Kurt   
23 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Zimmy- yes I do want it to work and the reason for initiniatly agreeing to go to Poland was to make it easier for her, and avoid the solicitor route that will prevent her from removing our child from the UK. i have been doing allot of research on going to Poland etc.. but all avenues i have explored comes to one conlusion.. its a bad decision to go with this woman to her country under the circumstances.

However i am still thinking of a suitable compromise, i still love my wife very much and my first objective is to remain married but that will not happen..

so the next logical step would be to proceed with legal action to get this matter sorted... and yes I agree i have seen what a monster a woman can become, she will have no problems screwing me if she found a way to do it.

As for my child we have a very good relationship, it is however suffering a bit through everything thats going on and thats why its vital to proceed to formalise things, she is aware what the implications will be on her if she decides to run off to Poland without my consent it will take some time but i could have our child returned to the country and she could potentially be charged with kidnapp
Kurt   
25 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Grubas- well you come across in your comments as someone that clearly has no clue about what his talking about, I wont go down to your level, I am here to get opinions from other people to understand my situation better.

on the bright side.. If things does go to court, i would pray for you to be my wifes lawyer, by the sounds of it you have a full proof plan :-) enjoy ur day!.

@Piotr123- Thanks for your comments, first and foremost my intention is not to remove my child from her mother by fighting for full custody.

As a parent i acknowledge the importance of having both parents in the childs live even if its not under one roof.

As for the relationship between my wife and I, I still hope it can be salvaged but I cannot based my actions going forward of hope and love. i feel i have to be realistic about the situation and protect myself and the relationship with my daughter from a legal stand point. and the UK will be the best place to do it because this is where we have been living for the past 6 years..

@ patricia19. That was very good advice i will definately take it on board xx

@ Midas- she has her mother and brother in the UK comes and visits frequently however they do not offer support in terms of looking after the baby the last year my mother in law would look at her once a month during the weekend which is greately appreciated. my wife is not isolated she has a large group of Polish friends with children who she hangs out with everyday..... if there was a family member i could bring here i would in an instant but they all going on with there own lives. inlaws are seperated.

warszawski[/

You are right about a wife needing more time to herself and being happy...
our child is going to nursery and will attend school in a few months, most of our friends who have kids both parents worked full time and rotated their shifts so one parent can alwas spend time with the child.

living in a foreign country and raising kids will never be an easy task but these are things that needed to be considered from both parents, the nappy changing and waking up during the night is over and has been for awhile, i believe as an individual if you wish to progress and do something for yourself you will need to get up and do it, spending all your free time with mates and complaining that this is not good and that is not good is not a good recipe, moving to another country will also not solve any of your problems at the moment it does seem like a good idea because all your focus and energy is on a new experience but once the excitiment has faded and the reality of life in Poland kicks in you are left with the same problems. I feel its best to resolve things now separation or no separation, In the UK as a single mother will get good financial support and thats not including Child support payments from the ex father.

What support would the goverment give a single mother in Poland? families have their own life to consider and kids,

Patrcias words has had an impact on me today.

[b]Midas

Let me be clear though - not talking about a nanny. Talking about the idea of having his mum-in-law shipped over from Poland so she can "help out". A nail in the coffin, that's what it will be.

They'll gang up on the bloke and pretty much tag-team him to death.)

Midas, this has happened to someone i know who was not married to a Polish woman but had a daughter with her and they lived together. she sold the idea that my mom could come live with us and help with the child, they are now seperated because, they did team up against him, they always spoke Polish in the house and they could speak english. as a dad he was always critised about what he was doing etc...

bottomg line, he got kicked out, mother in law and ex girlfriend living in a place that his still paying for "for the sake of his daughter"

given the opportunity woman will finacially rape you and as a farther you will do anything when you hear the words but what about our child and woman AND not all but they use that as a bargaining tool against men.
Kurt   
25 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

@ warsawki.. my wife is unhappy, because she does not enjoy the UK, she feels she cant do anything here, she wants to go study in Poland and she feels she does not love me anymore..

Note I have not cheated, nor have I abused her physically or mentally, what I have done was in the first 2 years of marriage i was not there as a farther as I should have been or as much as i could have been or as much as other farthers, i spent allot of time working and trying to get our finances stable when we met we lived in a single room fortunately it was with people when knew and they were good. my focus was to get us out of the rut and in my pursuit to gain finacial freedom at the time i neglected my wife that is what she tells me and i agree. i did also after work on a friday go to the pub for a few beers with work colleagues which is common in the city.. take also into account my wife during this time only had responsibilitie of raising our child, she did not cook, did not pay bills, did not go grocery shopping.

I realize the implications that 2 years might of had, 2 years following that I was home,finances were stable.i bath my daughter every second night, put her to bed, take her out alone so I have improved and i have changed but 4 years later i am now faced with oh but u were`nt there enough. i cannot change what has happened that far in the past and i have made allot of effort to make up for not being there as much, and my wife goes to Poland atleast 4 times a year and i found a letter more than a 1000 words long to another guy in Poland she wrote to him.

I appreciate that this is my side of the story and you are right to want to find out the root of the "evil" in conclusion i think my wife mentally has never really left Poland, thats why she has not enrolled in a university or done anything to start studying in the UK on the other hand i am building a live here so we are pulling in different directions. my wife never worked since our child was born and she said she wants to wait until our child starts school which is this year, now the time has arrived i was hoping she 1 would try to find a job to or start studying in the UK either one- her decision was, to study in Poland part time which will require her to fly to Poland every second weekend... i dont see the logic,

(Its not about the money, it is about everyone being happy, living on the social in the UK, may not be your wife's idea of happiness, she would probably be happier living in Poland, surrounded by her family, so they can assist in the bringing up of your child, although this situation may not suit you.)

Re. you comment above: yes I agree living on the social is not anyones idea of happiness, and that is why i decided that I would go to Poland instead of having my wife live here and be unhappy and raise our child... but the reality of the situation is that my wife wanted to leave with my child to move to Poland to go and study and start her live without me threating me that i will never see my child again, and she is thinking only of herself, you say that you have a family then you should know that once there are kids involved one's decisions need to consider all parties not what you feel is best for you alone, if I decided i want to move back to Cape town because its best for me would and not neccesarily for my wife and child would u still agree its ok? This is our child i did not run away when i found out she was pregnant i stayed and tried to do the best i can i was there in the room when my daughter was born and i am still here for her and still for my wife, having my child raised by her family is not an option because I am her farther and she needs me as much as she needs her mother. If i was ok with her family raising her i would have left in the beginning.

Moving to Poland with a wife thats not sure if she still loves you, is not a wise choice it could turn out moving to poland could mend the relationship or it could turn out when we in Poland she decides its over and where does that leave me??? my priority is my child.

I see you playing devils advocate and its ok, hopefully now u a bit more insight in the situation u can understand it a bit more?

Thanks for your comments, its always appreciated.
Kurt   
26 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

So if she is threatening and unreasonable, its time to get yourself a dictaphone and start recording the conversations you have, when she is blackmailing you, once you have taped 3 or 4 of the conversations, sit her down and make her listen to her own verbal abuse/diatribe, then inform her they are going in your safety deposit box, in case of a court case. That will put the wind up her.

What has my life come to where i need to consider getting myself a dictaphone this is crazy, I understand where you are coming from, its to protect myself.. I have an appointment tomorrow and i think I will just file for divorce instead of going back and forth with all this crap me and my wife are arguing about legal rights and rights to our child like we are lawyers i think its time to take the step.
Kurt   
26 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Before you file, make sure your wife can not take your child out of the country.

harry my first objective is to have my daughters passport surrended to the court, where neither of us has access to it.
Kurt   
28 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

She cant take the kids abroad without his say so and he should make this clear to her - using kids as a weapon is disgusting!

I agree, and you are right if other mothers can work raise kids and find time to study why is it impossible for others.. my wife is lazy i filed for a divorce yesterday and the lawyer told me that it is not my responsibilitie to house my "ex" and my lawyer is a woman and through our discussion she asked why does she not get herself a job? after i told her about the divorce i made it clear i will help her get on her feet but she demanded way more.. that i support her finacially until September etc..

I will help her but within reason but first i will get myself on my feet.
Kurt   
30 Jun 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Hi Guys, i know its been a while since i posted. but i just wanted to thank you all for your opinions.

I moved out of my matrimonial home, my daughters passport is secure, I am now filling for divorce and also for a joint residency order so that my wife can understand that as a mother she does not have more parental rights to our child than me..

Things are starting to look up and i slowly slowly starting to feel happy again..

thanks to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kurt   
12 Jul 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

From this post I take it that when it comes to the house, living expenses, etc. You're the guy doing all the paying... Hence I don't really understand why You're also the one doing the moving...

Hi Midas good to hear from you, well i dont want to fight about whos staying i spent this whole year dealing with this trouble i now just want to move on at the moment she is making it very diffcult for me to have contact with my daughter. so now i have issued court proceedings all i want is to move on with my life and have my daughter in it wich i should rightfully have and not have to issues court proceedings.. but i think this ex of mine leaving her with everything and still paying for all of her living expenses which will end 10 august 11 is not enough she wants to screw me further by keeping my child away..

Thank god i did not move with her to Poland and thank fully my daughters passport is no longer in her possesion