History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]


When I mentioned that Poland was West I didn't mean physical geography, I meant culturally. Poland is culturally "West". Throughout history Poland exchanged ideas with France, Italy and Germany (as an example, Copernicus influenced Galileo).

From your posts and Vlad's it appears you guys are Slovophiles: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophile

Poles are not slavophiles, from the same article:

There's a huge cultural divide between Poland and Russia (actually all of Eastern Europe). So when Vlad gets on here and says we're all slavs let's be friends he catches lots of heat from the Poles. Because Poles are Western in thought and they find Russians "foreign" in spite of the genetic, food & drink similarities. Same for your Ukrainian friend, she catches heat from Poles at work for the same reason. You mentioned in an earlier thread that Poles were suffering from an inferiority complex, Poles are probably Slavophobes: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavophobia.

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

The point I was trying to make is that you are equating Hitler, Franco and Stalin. They are very different dictators representing different political and social systems. Just because Stalin (USSR) was able to control the Eastern Bloc w/communism doesn't mean that Hitler would have been able to control Western Europe w/Nazism.

Americans are taught about WWII through Armies marching through Europe, we're rarely told the story of the civilians during those times. France and England lost a generation during WWI, the last thing that they wanted was WWII. The populations supported peace w/Germany, they supported Chamberlain. France and England were over run at Dunkirk because they weren't prepared, because they didn't want a war. When Germany over took France they brutalized the French civilians, like they brutalized everywhere they went. Once the French got the equipment and material to fight back, they fought back. Germany would never have been able to keep Western Europe together for any length of time. Too much opposition.

Love / Should I forgive my cheating Polish girlfriend? [73]


Man, after reading that list, Polish women are absolutely mankillers. In my next life I'm marrying American.

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]


Vlad and you, premise that there is some sort of cultural relationship between Russia and Poland. Some people on this thread are saying no that isn't the case with the languages. Culturally speaking I disagree also. Poland was heavily involved with Germany, Italy and France in the intellectual movement in the middle ages. Here's a bit from Wikipedia and they're saying what I'm saying:

/wiki/Western_Slavs


Poland hasn't had a relationship with Russia because until Catherine the Great, Russia was a cultural backwater. So Poland has more in common with (I'll say France) than with Russia. Poland is a Western Country, it's the West.

Here's more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_philosophy

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

Vlad, there weren't any exchange of ideas.

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

Vlad all the church records in Poland are in Latin. Why? Because Poland looks West, It's an historical fact.

I have a question for you and I'm asking (this is not a trick question). You believe that Polish and Russian is related, though some others on this forum don't think so but for the sake of argument we'll agree with your premise. Okay, historically speaking what exchange of ideas have existed between Russia and Poland?

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

Historically Poland has always looked West, that's why they're Roman Catholic and not Eastern Orthodox.

Being introspective doesn't mean that you suffer an inferiority complex.

The border between Eastern and Western Europe is Poland's Eastern Border. Poland has more in common with Brussels. Chopin lived in Vienna and Paris not Moscow.


Ooh, you're blowing my cover. Now everyone will think I don't know what I'm talking about. My bad, Stalin died in '53, not '48. But Russia ruled over the Eastern Bloc w/communism which was considered a viable alternative to capitalism. The Marshall Plan was designed to combat the spread of communism. Europe was on it's back after WWII and they all had very large communist political parties.

Also below is a link to an article from a Romney supporter (economist). At the end of the article his concern is the trade imbalance not the deficit.

finance.yahoo/blogs/the-exchange/expect-unemployment-rise-final-pre-election-jobs-report-230535426.html

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]


Stalin didn't control anyone other than the Russians, he died in 1948. What controlled Eastern Europe was the political philosophy of Communism which was not discredited as it is today. In was considered the wave of the future.

The Germans were brutal everywhere. In Vichy France for instance they dislocated 1.5 million Frenchmen to Germany to work as slaves in their manufacturing plants. For instance when about a dozen French labor leaders protested the workers treatment, they were filed out and shot. The German army confiscated all the food from the countryside, the French didn't have access to basic necessities. Everything in France was rationed.


You don't know the English. London endured the 1940 blitz and afterwards the buzz bombs until 1945. If they were as you say, prone to surrender or signing a truce they could have or would have done that in 1940 right after Dunkirk. Besides Dunkirk and

the blitz they endured their shipping being sunk by German U-Boats. England and the English were literally starving. As for wave after wave of German troops. Uh, hello, there's a sea channel between France and England. They'd have to launch an amphibious assault. Not easy, it would have been a bloodbath. You're making the mistake of looking at the past through the prism of the present. The English in the 1940's were a formidable army.


Bailout? You mean loan? Being a business owner myself, one needs operating capital (loan, bailout to you) in order to function. The problem with Europe is because of the previous bloodbath (aka WWI) no one was prepared for WWII. In other words the citizenry of England and France didn't want war. When Germany overran France the remaining French didn't have any weaponry to defend themselves. England organized the Resistance movements of Europe with supplies and training, that's what I meant by leadership. They were the only country in Europe to stand up to the Germans. England's leadership is sorely missed in today's European financial crisis. Germany's gone wild, once again.

The people in the 1940's knew that they were fighting for their very survival. It was the American working man, the American GI and political leadership from England that won the war.

Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]

Another thread on Polish Women, they must be absolutely mankillers. Who knew?

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]


I was raised in a devout Polish Roman Catholic household. And my parents never had a bad word for race or nationality. So growing up, I just didn't understand the Protestant Reformation. Why break away from the Church? Well ever since the Church has been getting active in politics with these religious rants (perfect example, Polonius), I started reading the Christian Bible (the New Testament), and lo and behold what a difference from Catholic dogma. What a revelation, and now I understand the reason for the Protestant Reformation.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


40 billion/month in imports = Half a trillion/year...after year...after year. And you want a strong currency? Beyond gravity. And quit this nonsense about Obama. It's not about Obama, it's about economic policy. I could care less who you vote for. The problem is half a trillion in imports every year, not the deficit. The deficit is just a straw man. It doesn't mean diddly. Dick Cheney, GW's Vice President "Deficits don't matter", have you forgotten?

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

Funky Samoan is correct. You need to study WWII. No not the "Band of Brother" stuff but what the population was doing, the resistance movements. The Nazi's were particularly brutal (almost beyond description) and antagonized the local population everywhere they went. There were very virile resistant movements in every country (France, Denmark, Norway, Poland, etc.) No way that Germany could control all of Europe. England would never have capitulated to the Germans. America's Industrial capacity, along with England's leadership won both theaters, even if Germany would have been able to subjugate the Russians.

Spain survived because they stayed neutral. You can't construct a proper analogy between Spain and Germany. Hitler and Franco were totally different.


No, you need to read about WWII. Good books on the subject concern the SOE, Christine Granville would be a particularly good read, and the OSS, "The Wolves at the Door" the French Resistance movement. The Nazi's and Russians were really brutal in WWII. The Russians really did a number on German women during their occupation "the Woman from Berlin", book and DVD.

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]


Why? The West offered the Marshall Plan but the Russians cabashed the whole idea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_plan

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


The debt is not the problem, the problem is our balance of trade. We import too much crap (40 billion/month). When you import you lose jobs that pay taxes. Get it? To cut the deficit you need revenue. Bernanke is keeping money circulating so that we don't have a 1930's style deflation which led to DEPRESSION. You cut the deficit, you cut jobs. Switzerland has pegged the Swiss franc to the Euro, to prevent the Swiss from going over the border and shopping in Europe for the same reason. When your currency becomes overvalued you lose jobs. Google, "the deficit is good".


To have inflation you have to have demand for goods (too much money chasing too few goods). There is too much unemployment to have inflation. Aren't you unemployed?

Love / What differences is there among Polish girls and British girls as girlfriends? [102]

Just to intervene and give you girls a male viewpoint but most women are born attractive, it's what they do to themselves that make them unattractive. Like too much makeup, dressing too old or too young, being totally out of shape. Just be yourselves, don't obsess over too much hair or not enough hair. It doesn't matter. Please yourselves.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


If you read the article, they mentioned that by reducing the deficit during deflation you'll get a 1930's Depression. To repeat, you're attempting to solve a problem that doesn't exist.


Think Drought.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


Where is this hyperinflation? We have deflation right now, not inflation. That's the whole point. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]


You can start by asking him how he's doing living as a Polish emigre in England.

Travel / Is it safe to travel to Poland? [194]

So Grubas how do you like Chicago? Happy you're off the Eastern Seaboard?

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


Google it? You mean like this:

seekingalpha.com/article/232339-why-deficit-spending-is-a-good-thing-until-it-becomes-inflationary

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

Yeah, I was raised in a Polish household also. I had to move and make an effort to Americanize, which I did. Now I can laugh...at myself.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


All the money that America has is the result of the print shop. Whenever we need more money, we print it up. There is nothing wrong with a devalued currency. The less our currency is worth the more imports cost and the less our exports cost. DEVALUED CURRENCY = LESS IMPORTS MORE EXPORTS. Good for the economy. That's how China did it, they artificially kept their currency low vs the dollar.


Bush did the Bank bailout, not Obama. All the money given to the Banks has been returned with interest.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


Very true. America is doing better than Europe right now (economically) because of our large debt. We're spending our way out of recession. Europe is trying to reduce their deficits with austerity. It's making everything worse. Take note, 4eigner. The US needs to spend more, not less.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]

I don't disagree with your political comments but NYC isn't represented of America. It's the most Un-American of America's cities. It's more like a city-state. The Other's views are quite correct for everywhere else in the States.


Nope what usually happens is that they don't pay the bill so the hospital raises the bill on people who can pay. Thus the reason for high insurance costs.

What we have in the States is a single tier health system (i.e., it's the same care regardless of your economic plight). Europe has a two tier system, if you don't like the government healthcare you buy the private stuff. If your poor, Government healthcare for you.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]

yeah, but it didn't work the first time as 4eigner pointed out.

UK, Ireland / Polish women in UK caught involved in prostitution scheme [39]


It's like this, when you take money for sex "you owe him" when there's no money exchanged "you don't owe him anything" which is a lot less complicated.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]

about what?

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


The Guardian is a Manchester Daily and is to England what the New York Times is to America.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


yeah, I noticed but I left it anyhow. Nothings perfect.

USA, Canada / Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events [207]


PGTX I am not a cheerleader for life in the States, but healthcare is available even if you do not have insurance. Why do you think so many people don't have health insurance? When they need healthcare they go to the Emergency rooms in the Hospitals. in the States they have to admit you regardless of your financial ability to pay. That's why your insurance is so high, because they charge people who can pay more money, to make up for those who don't. The rubber hits the road when you have a chronic illness and you need constant care. But how would be in Poland if you had a chronic illness? Like the guy with the blood clot? Go to Poland for 6 months and when you get back you're less one hand?


I have no problem with people leaving the states to live overseas but go to Poland because you like the culture or the way of life, but if you're going for economic reasons you'll be in for a surprise. All of Europe is imploding due to austerity measures. A good article from another thread:

guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/24/poland-leftwing-voices-silenced