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Bratwurst Boy   
22 Jan 2010
History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]

Serbs participated allegedely in the battle of Grunwald.

The only mention is:

....and allegedly Serbs.[citation needed]

So we can forget about that! Probably a Serb putting that into the text.
(And better for Poles, they would had probably lost with Serbs dragging them down) ;)

The real battle:

Polish forces
39,000-50,000 men

Kingdom of Poland[1]
Grand Duchy of Lithuania
Polish-Lithuanian vassals, allies and mercenaries:[2]
Moldavia Principality of Moldavia[3]
Tartars[1]
Bohemians[2],
Moravians[2]
Russians (Ruthenians)[4]

against the Teutonic Order
27,000-32,000 men
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

With being white and European there alone is bunches to be proud of...without resorting to myths, that's my point!

Especially if you not all the time has to go to war to defend some myths everybody else and their grandmom knows to be only myths...

And I as a German know alot of all the bad stuff my people has done, doesn't stop me from being proud of all the good stuff! It's all one package...no cherry picking allowed! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

Plus, I can criticize my wife, but I will get very upset if you do.

But...but...but....you called me "Polak in denial"! Hence I can criticize too without you getting upset!!!

;)

...and I still don't know what "psubracie" means....
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

People are smart.

Do you want me to gather all the threads here on PF attacked as anti-polish propaganda because a German or a Brit or a Jew or whatever does not show Poland/Poles only as it's best???

That has nothing to do with smartness but everything with knowledge!
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

One myth at time though. Maybe how the Teutonic Knights were spreading Christianity in Poland?

Good example!

I don't know of any German painting the Teutonic Knights as benign civilization bringer holding the torch of freedom (anymore that is)!
Nor would we call it "anti-german propaganda" if you complain about them! ;)
I think we see them quite realistically...

What's a "psubracie"?
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

Oh god...I once had it....lemme go looking..

Okay...I give up....I can't find the original.
But I believe the paper has an archive! I wished they would put it online like Times or Spiegel recently...

Nothing beats reading original articles from that time - history as it's best!
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

Can you find full text not only single quote ?

Maybe the Daily Mail has an archive where we could find it...
But this special quote is from an article from 6th August 1939.
Bratwurst Boy   
21 Jan 2010
History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]

I would say leave the myths alone.

It makes talking about history and even current events quite a struggle sometimes.
Especially with people fed on those myths who start to accuse you of "fabricating anti-polish propaganda" the moment you mention otherwise (outside of Poland that is) well known facts...

Also upholding myths which paints one side only totally rosy is not helpful for any reconciliation at all!
Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

He was a Field Marshall. He must have known the true state of Poland's armed forces and materiel.

Well...ESPECIALLY if you know about it better than the masses. What should he have told them?

"Ummm...erm....okay guys...we better cave in...my tank has crashed three times on me on my way here...we have no chance and you can't trust frenchies anyhow....let's go home..."

I think he would have been punished for "defeatism" then...
Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

What more...two countries about to go to war....blood has to be heated up, propaganda to spill, the masses made to scream enthusiastic...the same old everywhere!

What else should he have said?
Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

one sentence out of context by the man who didn't run Polish diplomacy or government prove exactly nothing.

Well...he said that at a ceremony of graduates of a military academy if I remember it correctly.
At least it speaks volumes about the mood in the country I would say...
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2010
History / Yalta Conference and Poland [78]

This quote floates around

Well...it throws a light at the tensed relationships between our states then (and typical polish overestimation).

Poland was geared up for a fight as was Germany...plus Poland counted on France and GB to get her nuts out of the fire should Germany prove to be to much!

Yeah, we brought communism on ourselves.

If I were mean I would say that after all you DID fight on Stalins side and helped him win..but I won't! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jan 2010
History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]

Like air. :):):) Whenever I recall how Poles managed to push back the Teutonic invaders, I feel complacent and work goes faster.

Now then...you may proceed! :)

smashed, smashed

The Poles are still glad that there was no Serb in sight. They would had lost again (both).
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Hey, why didn't you offer me a beer? How sexist of you!

I'm NOT a sexist! I think... A beer?
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

but understanding that the scumbags who did the unthinkable are mostly gone and the new generations are not like them.

Hey, it's my grandpa you are speaking of....and what do you know about us anyhow!
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Yes, and the years 1700-1799 are considered the 18th century however final partition of Poland-Lithuania was in 1795.

Well, then that was the second partition she speaks of...still Prussia, Russia and Austria!

1700s
Poland's three powerful neighbors, Russia, Prussia and Austria, each want to own Poland. This was all but impossible without risking war with each other. They finally settled their dispute by dividing Poland among themselves in a series of agreements called the Three Partitions of Poland.

1793
During the Second Partition, Russia and Prussia take over half of what was left of Poland.

1795
The Third Partition divides the rest of Poland. Poland is "officially" non-existent for the next 123 years.

Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

In the 18th century, ethnic Poles constituted 45% of the population. The minorities had their schools, their religions and their businesses. That's all I'm saying.

Erm...correct me if I'm wrong but Poland got re-established in 1919 only.
This "warm" and "welcoming" Poland you speak of must be that of Prussia, Russia and Austria since 1795 then..;)

I can't understand it either. Its a strange world.

*nods*
A beer?
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Compare that to 300,000 Israelis that traveled to Turkey. I don't think that means we have a big affinity to Turkish culture. Ok, it's closer and cheaper. But 25,000 is no big deal.

Not only closer and cheaper but not being the country of the "Täter" either!
I don't find it comparable...

And I really find it astounding that Germany is so popular with Jews, especially Israelis.
It's something I can hardly understand..
Bratwurst Boy   
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Sure, but I don't see a thread about Polish love and tolerance for minorities, also.

Yeah...wonder why....

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Total/Polish%20Antisemitism.htm

....so "warm" and "welcoming"!
Please keep your copy and paste to less than 100 words