Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

Again I thank you...you have certainly clarified for me the oh so Polish viewpoint. I do hope that others will come along with their ideas and qualify your viewpoint. If they don,t I will again be confused and have to reconsider my plans. My wife and I, thinking in 'our' way still think it would be a good deal for someone with an eye to the future, an investment in the future of their children if you like.....but if this will not be possible....well we will think of something. We had hoped to adopt a child and that child could have inherited and looked after us, but maybe as you say that child would not want to be tied to us in that way....For instance I as a child left home at 16 years old and joined the Army I never went home again I was having such a great time so you could be right. I,m not sure that you have read what would be on offer? free housing for life and a lot of wealth at some time in the future? we do invest money for the future....this would be similar.....just an investment of time. I am reading and re reading your post.....you see how different we are...no you don,t do you?.....we do not do this clinging to our families thing it seems entirely alien to us....and patch things up with our daughters???....you seem not to understand.....we free our children from the burden of us...we send them out to fly free, not cage them. We are not at odds with our daughters we just do not live in their pockets.....family life is not so constricting where we come from. Ha ha...do you make friends with the guy who digs a ditch for you? we had not considered our ditch diggers children for the post of house keepers...(and with good reason but I will not discuss that here)

USA, Canada / To move back to Poland from the USA or not to move back....that is the question [119]

I am English living here in the Podkarpacie region and I can,t help on many things but when my wife and I came to live here we were the same as you will be with our monies coming into our Polish bank from UK government ex employers etc etc......the bank were very helpful and asked us where we would like to declare that our money is taxed? (they politely informed us that it is cheaper to have it taxed in UK) we signed the declaration forms and saved ourselves from double taxation. I hope you will be able to do the same. I noticed an earlier poster said something about age,retirement and still teaching. I,m not sure it has any bearing but might be helpful. I know you are older than I am but one thing.....I,ve always had trouble getting people here in Poland to understand that I am 56 and have been retired since I was 49.......they have no concept of early retirement...indeed I have been drawing one 'War Pension' since I was 30...if only it had been enough £££ I would have retired then. My Dentist retired at 43!!!! (private pension...no such thing hereabouts)......good luck hope it all goes well for you. Ps...paying doctors cash under the table....it still goes on shhhhhhh!!!

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

f stop I thank you for your input......you see my wife has been in the UK for 30 years, she is Polish and is a patriot, but will admit that she has lost a lot of her Polishness. She would not see what you can. You see to our mind....we would not be being cheap....we would be giving...free gratis to someone who owns or stands to inherit from their family....nothing at all. But it would be when we die, so probably their children would really be the ones who inherit something that their parents could not give in the ordinary run of life. Also they would be able to have jobs, as many around here do, and still run the farm (it is not a huge farm) and the garden alone could feed a huge family. I invite further reasons why good people would not be happy with this arrangement? and of course it would be writtten in a contract and we would as per Polish law disinherit our rich children......(I honestly doubt that my daughter would even want to come to Poland much less inherit an old Farm in the Podkarpacie ha ha she could point to New York/Sydney and California on a map but probably has no idea where Poland is) Perhaps we could think 'Polish style' and have a waver in the contract that if we die in suspicious circumstances they get nothing?? it would encourage them to look after us for their childrens sake. My wife just suggested that you (being a Pole) might think that we would charge them money to live in the house until we are dead??? No No No...I am English...they would live in the house for free. they could as I said have jobs as well to give them spending money without the worry of having to pay for somewhere to live.


I really must apologise here......my wife is still a little bit Polish and having read my post said. "No No No..these people replying to your post are Poles!!! they will immediately think that you are trying to do what they would do and make slaves of these people" I have to explain that English people will sometimes seem crazy to Poles. You are thinking, Why would they give away a farm that will potentially be worth a couple of million Zloti sometime not too far ahead.......but to me....I don,t care if it will be worth 10 billion Zloti if I,m dead!!!! We have a saying in England....'You cannot take it with you'. (I honestly don,t believe in an afterlife!!) So just to make it clear and simple we would be letting these people live in a house on our land...for free gratis....all they would have to do is keep on growing the vegetables etc that we already grow and give some to us, also cut down trees as we do now for firewood and provide us with firewood. They could have jobs as well, many people in this area do just that, they farm, but may also have a job as a builder/ work in a sklep. My wife and I have plenty of money to live on and buy other things that we need we don,t need to ask them for money. Also as I said previously we would disinherit our heirs and leave all to these people in a legal will. Ha ha!! I can now see that we instinctively think very differently, but you must forgive me I have only been here for 3 years and I,m still not up to speed with the deeper culture.

Love / Married to a Polish girl in The Netherlands and residing with her here as well [9]

I am English my wife is Polish, we moved to Poland nearly 3 years ago......we had been married about 3 years in UK and never recorded the marriage in Poland). We had even both been married before and it was still no problem. (just got to show these people in offices that they work for us not the other way around as they like to think). Our decision to come and live in Poland was sudden and happened within a 6 month time frame. My wife had her ID changed to her married name and new address no problem. (she had been in England for 30 years) she then had our marriage registered here in Poland again no problem.....if you wish to know the details of who to contact let me know and my wife will write out the correct procedure.

Love / I want to find a Polish girl and get married to her. Your advice can change my life. [34]

Aha...more Passport fishers from outside EU.....their desperation is pathetic.

Life / Need Some Advice about life in Poland (vehicle, fuel) [24]

MOT the car in UK and tax/insure it in UK...expensive but you can afford it and it is less hassle than Polish paperwork (expensive in stress and grey hair). This car will have a bigger engine than my U1300L Unimog (same vehicle as Australian army use)!!!!! I daren,t let my wife see this thread or she might work out how many miles per gallon the Unimog does/doesn,t!!!!!! the one bugbear will be having to go to UK once a year to get a fresh MOT, re-tax can be done over the internet as can insurance (there are threads on here concerning UK insurers that will give extended all EU countries insurance for surprisingly little extra money. Onc other small annoyance unless you have plenty of time to talk cars on your hands, is that you will attract guys every time you park anywhere who will want to know/tell you all about your 'different' car. Good luck...enjoy.

Work / Information about jobs for Indian students in Poland [286]

All you people who think it will be great to have all these people from India etc..etc... coming to Poland are living a dream. The truth is that although these people can make a good life, Doctors, Lawyers,Chemists etc paying taxes etc.....they will be the 'foot in the door' for all sorts of undesirables......Indians and Pakistanis have 6-8 children to your 1-2....they will out breed you and they won,t all be Doctors/chemists etc, some of that huge family will be bad people (don,t forget grandma and grandad and a couple of cousins that they will bring from the old country as well). It is just so hard to go into, but in UK since the early 60,s these people have turned parts of my country into Ghettos, little Indias etc where no English is spoken only foreign clothes are worn and no white people are to be seen. They tend to move into a street then slowly but surely buy up all the houses in that street then it becomes a neighbourhood and everybody indigenous moves out because they are not made to feel welcome in their own country anymore. Like I said....some... a very small percentage are an asset, but it is the baggage they bring that will destroy everything around them.....you will enjoy your curries as the English did in the 70,s........your children will ask you.......why oh why did you let so many of them in?????...this is not my town anymore...just as has happened to swathes of UK.

Love / Married in Poland, now wanting divorce, does she have rights to half my earnings? [67]


Jeep it....Jeep it........UAZ it in Russia...

Law / Divorce in Poland - fault - rights to property predating the marriage [34]

I think the moderator means......why do you think that Polish men are different.....or even how dare you suggest that Polish men are different....or even please document your theory that Polish men are different to other european/worldwide men and in what way. They are just guys like the rest of us. or did I misunderstand and confuse this argument entirely, probably by missing posts?

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

Whoa....lots of trailriders here....trails galore for them and hunters? we have deer in our fields right now, I can see them from my window, you can,t move for hunters certain times of the year....this is not the big city that most of you know neither is it the village of your grandmother that you sometimes visit, this is the real wilds. I would also like to discuss the problem of the guys 'chopping our heads off' well I don,t think so...(and yes they will work a days work for 10 Zl for beer money, but in truth we like to get the more sober ones and will pay them 20-40zl for a days digging/general labouring.... (to be honest I could also do it with my tractor, but they work out cheaper than my time - could be doing other things and diesel...plus it gives people some work where other wise they would have none....and you all know how much they would get on social security) back to 'chopping our heads off' We have heard this before from a Polish friend (very well educated and holds one of the highest qualifications in his university....an erudite and well travelled man!!! damn nice guy as well...... He like you may do??? laughed at us when we told him our plan (be ready to laugh at our plan for when we get old!!!) We have no heirs, we both have daughters who are terminally wealthy and would not have even the slightest interest in this place because of its position in Poland. (were it a nice apartment in an upmarket area of a city then one of them might have an interest) We are trying to adopt here in Poland but who knows if it will happen?(bureaucracy) our original plan was to keep our eyes and ears open over the years and when we get decrepit and too old to work the farm, we would invite some young couple that we know and trust, to take it on...(we have a spare 5 bedroomed house (more rooms than the one we live in) and they would provide us with food from the farm and it would be a base for them to work from.....they would inherit the farm houses and land when we die. Now whats wrong with that???....in UK it would/could work!!!!........ our friend roared with laughter until he cried!!! They are Poles...... they won,t be grateful.....you won,t get to die of old age...THEY WILL POISON YOU or worse!!!! When you stop laughing.........is he right?????

Law / Visa for Work in Poland [29]

Two of the biggest ways for people from india to get into UK and stay, have been Indian companies in UK sponsoring way too many people, just to get them in. The other way has been some very dodgy 'language schools', 'business schools', etc and 'anything schools' that seem to have hundreds of people registered in them.....but nobody turns up for classes?(many of these have been closed down now, hence many more trying it on here in Poland) they are all working flipping horse burgers and waiting long enough to claim a right to stay in the EU and eventually get a passport.....thats how it works in UK? seems to be coming to Poland slowly but surely as companies get a foot in the door who will not employ Poles they will bring in many Indians etc. Cheap courses at universities will also bring many more. (Don,t worry they will not be looking to live next door to grandma..their eyes are turned towards the West. (trouble is they may displace a Pole on a course, who would be more likely to benefit Poland?)

Study / Is it possible to study, work and do sports training in Poland? [7]

In a word.....EU passport.......doors are closing quickly now in other EU countries...so these chancers see Poland as suckers who will let them in.......just see the numbers of guys from these other world countries who are asking on this Forum: 1. can I get study visa, 2. can I get work visa, 3. how can I marry Polish girl so I can stay in Poland and get EU passport, 4. How can I buy an invitation letter to stay in Poland so I can get EU passport.......etc etc....... Please do not encourage them, they have no intention of enhancing Poland in any way whatsoever. They are easy to spot because in their countries buying your way into things like wives/ passports/degrees/certificates of any kind/driving licences....etc etc..... is just a natural thing and is done every day, so they have no idea how much these things are frowned upon here. Easy to spot also is their desperation.....which can make you feel sympathetic.....try not to....as I said they have no interest in this country other than to obtain a passport.....they will probably have posted on all of the forums for the newer EU countries.

Language / Why is the Polish language so difficult? [246]

I see what you mean Ziemowit I stand corrected and admit I misunderstood....but my wife brought up a daughter in UK and the similarity to what fuzzywickets said is that to encourage her daughter to learn Polish, she told her it would be a secret language that only they could speak and so they would be able to say things that people around them wouldn,t understand......this was almost 20 years ago of course. We use the same encouragement on a couple of village children we teach...(they are still young and their classmates do not know English very well yet)

Language / Why is the Polish language so difficult? [246]

Bad examples.......Dutch people flying anywhere even in Polish airports will see signs in English they won,t even look for signs in Dutch and won,t expect them (because English is the international language of Flight/The Sea etc) and their brains will just click into English mode, same for any French person Under 50. I don,t see Polish becoming an international language soon just because they are good at hanging onto the shirt tails of the EU and waving the silly blue flag.......more likely the young people of Poland as they come up through the ranks will see to it that English will be seen in Poland more and more on TV in adverts in signage and more.....everyday I see examples of this where the English word is used over the Polish (hard to spell or pronounce) word.....I think young people just go the easy route. Who knows even in England....English is decoming diluted.....maybe one day we will use the American 'tressle' instead of the English 'trestle' and tire instead of the true English tyre.......understanding is the key and if we understand each other no matter how we spell it, we will not resort to violence.

Law / Polish EU Drivers Licence - can I get one the easy way (by paying for it)? [185]

Driving licence, university course etc etc = paper trail, necesssary to help non EU persons to get an EU passport.....maybe one of those perhaps?

Food / Where to buy British mature Cheddar Cheese and salted butter in Poland? [289]

Keep an eye on Lidl...when they have an English week (if you ask they will tell you when) they do some really good strong English Cheddar, god knows who makes it but it is nice. We buy a couple of trays because it only happens a couple of times a year and it freezes just fine. Also try Turek blue cheese, I find that stuff quite nice.......especially nice stuffed in checken breasts.

Travel / Do I need an invitation to enter Poland as a tourist? [53]

UK is really tightening up on Passports/student visas etc....other EU countries are the same....this is just a fishing expedition for passport grabbers before the door shuts. Sad thing is not one of them is looking to stay in Poland, it is just the EU passport that attracts them. If Poland closes the door (actually one thing I like about Poland is that the door is hardly ajar anyway), you will see them congragating on (maybe they already are) other EU forums. I have no respect for this particular type of economic migrant.

Life / Polish Positivity and the Myth Of Middle-Class Pretense, or "Everything Will Be Fine." [27]

All I know about this so-called pretense is based on what people hope to drive what they do drive and how they look after it, which is not much of a pointer. But I can say that as an outsider living in a village one 'wonderful', or different thing I have noticed is that everyone knows their place in the village 'pecking order' they know who they have to talk up to and who they can talk down to. It is........different and interesting......and I,m not going into a long argument with someone who will insult me and tell me I know nothing.....but from what I see and hear this phenomena is simply because nothing ever happens in villages and people have to have this little bit of 'something' so that they can feel better about their situation. It works (unless you are at the bottom I suppose) and they get by with the system......maybe this has some bearing on what has been discussed? When things perk up everywhere, maybe everyone, towns, cities and villages will discard these constructs as no longer necessary to the way they feel about themselves?

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

This is a different part of Poland, but it is just like the rest of Poland (so I am told) there are people with the money to give their children extra education and there are the ditch diggers who earn very little or nothing. We teach two children for free (yes yes I know you won,t believe that either because it,s not a Polish thing to give your time free is it, I have found that the shrivelled Polish soul struggles with this most Western of concepts) eventually even my wife came round to the idea of loss leaders, she was in sales and marketing...it has paid off in the end. You would be surprised and maybe proud though of your countrymen (actually it,s mostly women) even the poorest here will sometimes go without to give their children hope for the future.

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

Ha ha...My wife pays them 1 Zloti an hour and around here trust me they are glad of it, there is just no work at all, so if I don,t employ then they have no work and not even a single Zloti. But don,t worry we do play a little psychological trick and at the end of the day, I will have a beer with them and give them a 20 Zloti bonus for good work.....the word gets round how good an employer I am and what a nice guy. Go away and think about it.....I know it makes your blood boil ha ha. (It is getting so I do it now just to wind you all up...I,ll tire of it soon!)

Love / Are Polish girls open to foreigners? [78]

I will again ignore the venom and bile, which achieves nothing. I do welcome wealth bringers, I don,t welcome scroungers.....I brought wealth to Poland in that all (every cent) that I have spent here has been generated in another country. Yes we are here for our own benefit, we can afford to live very well here as I said we take nothing and bring much....we do not need to work, Do you? have fun every day in the rat race? I made all my money ages ago, I took early retirement 5 years ago. Note we are both very old, teminally disfigured and gay...Oh god we are so gay!!!!!! and have ugly diseases and disabilites......but only my wife is a Pole (she is not ashamed of it all of the time....just most of the time, she consoles herself with her German roots).....are you happy now?? (see how I am starting to write like a Pole? I came for the good life, to lounge around playing at being a farmer!!! I doubt I,ll ever get all the jealousy, venom and bile that some of you have though....It would not be.....'British' somehow.





My wife tells me not to be so soft on you, look at the way he writes more carefully? she said bad things about your education, but I was taught to carry the 'white mans burden' from a young age.....I do not poke fun, I accept that they are what they are: And so she dissected your post........ Luxmi?? not a slip of the finger.........birds? pure 1960s, chicks? again Amercana circa 1960s, mate!!!!??? that word makes you sound like some Jamaican yardie!!! speaking in 'Patois'...... just what are you using as a translator? I got so into the argument that I couldn,t see the wood for the trees.

Love / My reaction to a thread against foreigners marrying Polish girls [37]

ha ha....good sense of humour ......my daughter lives in UK and is MD of a company that is doing quite well....she is proud to have produced two white babies with her UK white husband. Please educate your daughter to the danger that lies out there.

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

You see I said I like the funning and jokes on here as well as the venom and bile.......My wife is a bit foreign, she was brought up in Silesia (they claim to be more civilised, but I am not so sure...all those coal mines?) and yes my bookshelves do have an adult section...one book on fetishes etc....I use it as a talking point and to surprise the unwary. I have adopted many rural Poles but not as pets, we teach English/German to some delightful children and I keep several adult males for digging ditches etc (they will work for 1 Zloti per hour and glad of it......I told you this was a poor area.)

Life / Grass is always greener? Poland experience. [69]


Tusk simply proved that he is good at kissing ass better than some......he went to the people and said "vote for me I can beg for money better than the other parties" I would have hung my head in shame rather than say that......in fact I couldn,t believe it, I thought Poles were too proud to do that on a national scale.

Life / Grass is always greener? Poland experience. [69]

I,m with phtoa on this one but predictions for the future? Those in power now are preparing the Polish people for 'The Euro' why do you think Poland was given such a big handout???? Yes it was a bribe.....(and this is the last handout for many years) there is no reason to expect that Poland will do any better on the Euro than other economies that are failing with it......a lot of people will suffer and many may even die as a result of the Euro in Poland. Why the Euro?....watch the fat man 'President' and Donald Tusk get nice big fat jobs in Brussels that will make them millionaires and give non jobs to their families in perpetuity, thats how big the stakes are to these people, it has happened with British traitor political families, they have been happy to sell their country down the river for money and jobs on an industrial scale. They won,t have to suffer the wrath of the people though because they will live in a mansion in some other EU country.

Love / English girl moving to Poland with my Polish boyfriend for the first time [69]

As I read this thread more and more I got to like this Bizzilizzi she has balls and I don,t think she will put up with any old rubbish they throw at her. Go for it girl I think you sound like you can handle it and you will come out of it even stronger no matter what. Me? English guy probably an old geezer by your standards, married a Polish woman 5 years ago bought a farm in a small village so far away from Kracow you would think I,m not in Poland at all. I knew Germans very well and I thought Poles might be like Germans...Nope nothing like!!! but I get on fine here. I did at first worry that your predicament may be like someone I knew who came to live with a g/f in a big town, but!!! her family lived in a pokey flat with only 3 rooms!!! and also living there were 2 other sisters and their husbands and children and they thought nothing of bedding down everyone in the living room at night!! (make your beds up on the couches) If his family are wealthy it may be different.......you see in England they would have said "look sorry we just don,t have room for you to stay" in Poland they will do as I said and cram you in......if you are not used to it then it comes as a culture shock indeed. Like people said, keep your ears open for English voices say hello and you can make friends that way.......jobs? unlikely, about the same chance as a good lottery win, but not impossible, just find things to occupy the mind...I have a farm and live the 'good life'. Additional...in Polish families there is often a 'pecking order' among the women, if you do not establish straight away that you will not be 'treated like dirt' you may find yourself at the bottom of the heap and be put upon.....they do not understand English politeness and will see it as weakness to be exploited.....Be nice but firm.

UK, Ireland / Moving to Poland from UK - how to watch English tv? [7]

Agree..Filmon.com is great so many channels to choose from, spoilt for choice.

Additional: don,t try to watch in HD or it will tell you that your trial period is over and you will have to pay......be content to watch in SD and it will let you watch forever.

Law / Getting married to a Polish woman - paperwork? [5]

Good luck with it all......I am also from UK married to a Polish woman and have been living in Poland for nrly 3 years now. Great place, nice people (but I do live in a village, have a farm and don,t need to work). I have been told that it is a completely different experience if you need to find a job, have to live in a pokey flat with outlaws and god knows how many of their other offspring in a crappy town. But If conditions are right for you it will be a great experience. Weather totally different to UK....winters cold, snowy but dry snow not the wet nasty stuff of UK...summers (especially where I live...South East Poland) long and hot.....bring lots of suncream........unless you are living on the North coast...you will miss the seaside...I do.....got to build that swimming pool I keep promising myself.

Genealogy / Tunisian living in Italy married to a Polish Woman - Obtaining Polish nationality. [8]

Yet another non EU married to a Pole and desperately trying for an EU passport......spot them a mile off.....not interested in Poland at all or the wife and children....just out to grab a passport.

Life / Men in Poland in the forest? Just men? [133]

Of course it is illegal!! but this is a part of Poland that is a place apart.......bit like the wilds of kentuckey where the people have illegal stills...same here, it is highly illegal, but because it is part of the culture it is overlooked...almost every farmer makes his own 'bimber' here. This area is poor and is not as well Policed as a big city, less police, because less money....plus you have to live here to see how it is situated..loads of little farmsteads up hidden in the hills anything could be happening there, policing nightmare!!!......but crimes here do not tend to be burglary (the odd drunk tries to break into a sklep now and then, just seen it today, door jamb all broken on our local village shop, done in January apparently, but a woman here even a young girl can expect to walk around at night in the dark (few street lights) without being molested, no one will mug you for money or a mobile phone worst thing is a drunk will try to tap you for a zloti for beer and they are so polite about it too...I feel much safer here than I have in many other parts of Europe where I have lived..