Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

re: look what India has had to deal with britishers, and other invadors

- Hm, and now crowds of Indians come over to and live in Britain, among those naughty 'britishers' (sic).

And India is part of the Brit Commonwealth, and Indians are very proud and boastful of it, aren't they? Many of those I have met all had the attitude that may be expressed as: 'Who are you compared to me? You're only Polish, and I belong to the British Commonwealth!'

:)

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]

re: Oops sorry I carried on so much about myself

- Not only about yourself....

I hope my comment is 'informative' enough...?

Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

re: I hope for you, that you may realize perhaps a bit of these "altered states"

- Can you tell who has and who hasn't had the realisation in question? How?

re: You cannot control the world, things will happen whether you like it or not

- I certainly don't have any desire to 'control the world;' perhaps it's you who have one and are projecting it on me? In spite of your professed lack of agression, your posts seem to reveal some of it lurking underneath. And contrary to what you assert, some things we have influence upon; we don't have to remain passive towards them (doesn't Patanjali, rajayoga say the same stuff?). One of them is certainly immigration. I don't want Poland to become a 'multiculti' mess, such as I've seen in e.g. US, Canada, and recently UK. And just as I don't think it right for Poles to go en masse to another country for permanent settlement, I don't think it right for others, especially non-Europeans, to do the same in respect to Poland.

re: By the way - Indians are not paranoid or hating of Christians

- I've never stated that all Indians are 'paranoid.' I've only said that there's paranoid hatred of Christians in India (there's no such thing in Poland, apart, perhaps, from commiefascists' traditional hatred of Christianity; nor there is any hatred in Poland against Hinduism or Islam).

re: Yes and also I met with the Polish racism too

- Well, if so, then wouldn't it be a good reason for some not to move over to Poland?

Iskra, I've read what I scribbled and it occurs to me my scribbling may appear pretty unfriendly. It wasn't my intention to be unfriendly towards Indians (or Asians in general). I should add to my post: I don't mind some Asian people moving over and living in Poland, but not huge crowds of them. I think that any honest and patriotic Asian person should agree with me on that. I've met quite a few people of Polish and Asian descent and I have only brotherly feelings for them (as long as they don't try to forcefully impose the non-Polish culture and values on me).

Life / Why are Poles always so miserable? Why do they never smile? [512]

re: of course with their goverment now ... they will not be happy

- Well, the majority of Poles seem to back their government.

Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

re: With so many people who are Polish leaving Poland for other countries, then we should appreciate that so many people from other countries move to Poland

- Hm, do many Poles move to India? And if Poles move to, say, UK, why on earth should they appreciate Indians and similar folks moving to Poland? I'd think the Poles should rather appreciate folks from countries the Poles move to.

Well, and so you and whomever else you mean by the term 'we,' may appreciate Indians and other Asians moving to Poland, but allow me and those like me (the majority of Poles) not to be enthusiastic about such immigration.

re and judgment on people of only phycial regard is probably termed racist

- I've met with Indian racism, including brutal beatings, frequently while living in Canada, where, just as in UK, there is an enormous Indian population.

I wonder if from the heights of your yoga altered states you are able to see (in India) the Indian paranoid hatred of Christians?

Classifieds / Asian community in Poland [113]

re: Just wondering is there an asian community in Poland

- There are scores of Vietnamese in Warszawa. Not guest workers; they're there to stay. I wish they didn't; I wish Poland were Poland, and Europe Europe.

Tornado, you've got on - wherever else? - the BBC TV a programme called 'Asian Nation' (meaning that Asiatics are a separate nation in the UK?).

I don't mind folks from Europe coming to Poland for work and even permanent settlement.

Well, perhaps I would be scared of Russians, because experience in other countries (e.g. the Baltics) shows that where they settle they start treating the country as part of Muscovy.

I don't mind folks from Asia coming as guest workers, but I mind if they wish to settle permanently.

News / Illegal drugs in the EU - Polish gangs are top sellers [56]

re: Polish gangs are the top sellers of methamphetamine (crystel meth) in Europe, especially in England

- And the message comes from...?

re: They are selling to people in Poland, but thay might be more inclined to give it to English people, unfortunately

- You mean: who cares they are selling it to the Poles, but it's really bad when they sell it to the English?

Yeah, you are great (American) 'Pole.' I'm sure your Podkarpacie ancestors rest peacefully in their graves because of you.

re: i dont doubt this...

- And maybe you should?

Is it really the Poles who are such druglords in such a drug-dealer's gold mine as UK?

Or perhaps other nations?

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

Personally, I am always taken aback in Poland by the old and not so old ladies who seem to think that they have every heavenly right and privilege to sit on any seat they please on the bus or tram. They may get quite snotty and even insulting when a young person or just a non-elderly male passenger doesn't let them have the seat (comments such as: 'Nice manners! Is it your parents who have taught you them?' 'Complete lack of culture!' 'What kind of young people do we have?' 'Wow, what a great gentleman!')

Strangely enough, most of the young people let them have the seat humbly.

This phenomenon seems to be the relict of the communist era (in communism, according to the official propaganda, the elderly were among the groups specially cared for by the state).

Or perhaps it's also a symptom of something else?

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

Hey, osiolku. Thanks for your post. :)

Yes, if Britain sucks it's just a little bit. But overall she is the oasis of sanity - at least for me - in this mad world.

I also love Brits, both those polite and rude ones (even though loving the former seems a tinge easier than the latter ;).

As for the Poles, they are people like others.

But certainly the media psychopaths - and those in Britan aren't overall as bad as those in say North America or Germany - depict us as some kind of inferior human beings and villains.

I don't identify the media psychos with a given nation, nor even with a given nation's government.

The media psychos are a nation and government unto themselves.

Cheers. It was pleasure and relief to read your post.
:)

By the way, I also start loving Ireland and the Irish. I have just visited and got acquainted, and my experience is overwhelmingly positive.

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

I think Patrycja is right - trying a little kindness, such as friendly introducing oneself, etc., seems like a good idea. Some foreign people may appear unfriendly because they feel unsure whether their new milieu is welcoming and friendly. Right on the money, I'd say, Patrycja.

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

re: Just before he left the room, he leaned over and quietly said: "Look out! All Polish people are thieves!"

- There are folks from Poland who say negative things about Poland. There are people in any nation who say negative things about the nation they come from.

I have met some Britsh folks who told me that British folks are cons.

Does it mean they were right?

The Brtish tend not to say negative things about Britain to the foreigners. Does it mean that these things don't exist in Britain? Or does it just mean that the British care about their image?

Now there's a definite tendency in the so-called English-speaking world (US, etc.) to speak negatively about Poland and Poles.

Does this mean that all these good folks - including some on this board - are actually right when refer negatively to us?

re: Poles are not rude.Kurwa is a word for the gentleman

- Hm, then you've got to be a gentleman after all.

Wow, I didn't know that until now.

Do you suggest there are no vulgar words in other languages? How about your own language, pal?

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

re: they do, however, tend to have large noses and are terrible drivers, some of them are also pretty stupid... but thats obviously got nothing to do with nationality

- The above can be said about any nation.

Including your own.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: any more stupid questions P... dang, youre starting to sound like lef...

- Well, Im afraid you - again - haven't proved your point.

Shouldnt you be able to back your assertons with evidence, and not with insults, such as 'stupid questions,' etc. ?

What does it mean I start sounding like lef? Is that good or bad? Why?

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: ok i understand your position, but please don't blame me for somebody taking my words and using them out of the context that they were meant.

- Have I misrepresented your words? If so, if you didnt really mean that Poland is full of imperialists, nazis, etc., then accept my apology, man.

Also, no, I don't single out the English, or anybody else, for that matter. I actually like and understand you guys, perhaps better than many others do.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: puzzler i'm not really sure on your position on this issue are you agreeing with people like Lef and Ola or are you of a different opinion

- I definitely disagree with ola, and I am not sure if I share some of lef's assertons, but I defnitely refuse to agree with the asserton that Poland is full of imperialists, nazis and the like. for Gods sake guys. Especially you bubba, who have been living in the country for a while and ought to know better.

But you seem to speak from a minority (I don't mean here a national minority, but, say, cultural one ) perspective, don't you bubba?

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: spend some time in poland P, other than as a tourist... open your eyes and you will see...

- Bubba, why don't you tell me? Don't you have those facts in question?
:)

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

Hmmm, szarlotka, Amethyst, and others arent you too hard on your own people? Some of the Poles also tend to be hard on other Poles. Yeah, one of the main reasons for the decline of European nations is the fact that members of the nations don't like each other, are harsh on each other.

I'd say that yes, scold some Brits who act outrageously abroad, but dont exaggerate about it.

Some time ago the Italian riot cops beat up in an utterly beastly manner the Manchester fans. It was extremely brutal and without any apparent reason. It seemed like an act of vendetta for the 1980s unfortunate occurence at one of the Euro stadiums. I would not say - as I heard some Brits say - that the Italian cops were right in this case.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: this is a pretty accurate description of a lot of people in poland...

- Dear me, bubba. Really you have encountered 'a lot of people in poland'(sic) who are allegedly 'imperialists, nazi's, jealous, bitter and many other things due to the posts of a few lame excuses for people' (whatever it all means)?

Any real-world examples of those alleged Polish vices?

re: Yes shame on you puzzler, of course i was joking !! :-)

- Meow!!!
;(

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: Not really - just Brit humour

- Really?

Well, if Deco really was just kiddin' and I didnt get the joke, then disgrace on me.

As for the question of why some Brits act outrageously abroad, first of all, its because they become automatically more noticeable than others, due to the prevalent conviction in many countries that the Brits are the classiest best-mannered people in the world and therefore arent upposed to act ourageously. Others have permission to act outrageously abroad - steal, get into brawls, scream at the top volume in public places, etc., but not the Brits. The other factor, it seems, is indeed a suppresson of the British, especially English, national character in Britain, due to so-called multiculturalism (which boils down to the much recommended (by TV ads, etc.) in-breeding with the Thirld World, especially African folks and allowing their values, such as dependance on the state, to dominate in Britain). And the Brit elites, alas, dont seem to be in real touch with the real British people. Only creeps of the Daily Mail ilk or the British National Party, whose political agenda is actually also the aforementioned multiculturalism, pretend they are for the Brit people.

These seem to be, roughly, some of the main factors contributing to the phenomenon in question.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: Not as low as OLA has been lately!!

- True, but Decorator's remark remains low all the same.

Forgive me, tornado, but what does it matter if one kind of rubbish is better than another?

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: I'd even offer you a job Ola.. see how nice we Brits can be?

- That's low, Decorator.

UK, Ireland / Warning to British people visiting Poland!! Don't get drunk and smash the place up! [447]

re: And that's wrong

- I think exactly the same - the club owners should not allow the troublemakers in but let decent folks in. And the vast majority of English and Irish (that's the two Brit isle nations I actually know) are decent.

What does get into SOME Brits that they act so outrageously abroad at times? I know that some Swedes act terribly abroad and one explanation for that is that they are too suppressed at home as regards alcohol consumption, etc. But what would be the motive with the Brits?

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

Hm, many Russians think that Dostoyevski was of Polish extraction. The surname is certainly Polish. But he was a bit of a Polonophobe, wasnt he? Also of Polish origin were Tiolkovski (space scientist), Stanislavski (theatre theoretician), Tchaikovsky (composer), Gogol (great writer - one of my great favourites), and others. But as you know I dont feel any pride in somebody else's achievements.

:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

Hm, my posts (pertinent to the discussion, including the one about Hollywood figures) have been deleted from this thread, and one highly offensve Polonophobic post by buttburst still remains (the one on 'Kopernikus,' his alleged 'german/austrian' origins, our alleged 'people grabbing' and with with the elegant expression 'f...ck' to boot). Does it mean the moderator agrees with the content of the post?

Travel / Starbucks in Poland? [149]

As far as I know there is Starbucks in Wroclaw. Wouldn't there be any e.g. in Warszawa?As for Pizza Hut establishments, they are in every bigger Polish city, aren't they? And in Poland, unlike in some other places, Pizza Hut food is just delicious, and a-plenty. You get some divine salads, pickles, veggies, etc. - the whole enormous buffet you can pick from (it's so at least in Wroclaw). I consider Starbucks coffee dull. Maybe the Poles will manage to improve the taste?

:)

Genealogy / How hard is it to get a Polish passport? [74]

re: Nope. Quite a few posters asked you about your nationality... whatever, your answers are evasive.

- It appears to me that this creature is of Polish extraction. Perhaps he was born in Poland and lived long enough there. Just a hate-filled Polonophobe of Polish origin. And a self-indulgent liar who thinks that we are not intelligent enough to see that, or that even if we see that, his repeated assurances that he's not Polish will make us eventually believe him.

By the way, there are also Britophobes of British origin.

It's a universal phenomenon - the hate towards the country of one's origin.

But sometimes there may come the point when, for the sake of self-interest, such people start suddenly appreciating the country of their origin and become 'great' patriots.

They should never be taken back.
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

I was joking with Joyce, Bono and Neil Young, of course.

;)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

Shawn, Neil Young is definitely Polish. I'll stand up to you on that any time, any place.
:)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

re: Notable people of Polish descent:

- Jim Joyce was Polish too. And so is Bono.
;)

Life / Famous Polish people (that we have actually heard of) [224]

re: 'Were', dude

- Do you mean Austria and the Hapsburgs don't rule Hungary after all? Then who rules Hungary? Isn't it Hungarians who do?

If yes, then aren't they responsible for Budapest monuments?

re: if your point is wrong usage of a word.

- And what do you mean by this?