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landora   
5 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but those so called "Polish polkas" have nothing to do with Polish dances or Polish music whatsoever. From what I have seen they sound and look like some terrible version of Irish dances. "Polka" itself is a Czech folk dance.

Polka is not a name of any traditional Polish dance, the best known traditional dances for Poland are:
- mazur
- oberek
- kujawiak
- polonez
- krakowiak

Also, no one listens to such music in Poland.
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]

That's really sad that some people can say such things...

No, it's not.
I am responsible for my animal, which is innocent and helpless without me. I am also responsible for my family and, to certain extent, friends. The animals in general usually can't do anything to improve their fate. Humans, however, have brains and means to deal with their own troubles. You're mentioning the homeless - how many of them did it to themselves? A dog thrown out by irresponsible owners did nothing to deserve it!

You look after humans if you want, but don't you dare tell me what I should be doing with my money.

After all, your attitude towards the most helpless creatures shows what kind of person you are.
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]

Humans are inherently more valuable than animals... surely?

Depends on a human.
Would you say that Stalin or Hitler were "valuable"?

All the living creatures are equally important. It's just humans usually have a choice - they can move, finde another place to live in, change job etc. Animals can't make such decisions, and we are responsible for making their lives painless or their environment livable and sustainable.
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Language / déjà vu in Polish [23]

Poles might not be too good in pronouncing French, but English are terrible as well. Ask any French person what they think about it :D

Speaking of pronunciation, have you ever heard any English native speaker trying to use Latin?? Oh, the horror!

Even relatively simple Pinus is commonly pronounced as "pajnus". :D
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]

Of course for some of us it's harder, but no one HAS TO live in Haiti. The animals living there have no choice whatsoever, they can't move, not even the slightest chance. Having said that, I'm certainly sorry for people there, I know it's terrible what's going on there and their fate is awful. Still, I'm always more moved by the tragedy of the dogs in a shelter or the "bush meat" being killed cruelly in Africa. Or the species of plants and animals going extinct all over the world just as we speak. That's who I am. And it's my business only what I'm spending my money on.
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]

I'm not cruel. I don't hurt anyone, I help my friends if they need help and I give money to WOŚP and Caritas. I always buy food for people if they ask for it (though I don't give money to beggars on the streets). I also feed homeless animals.

What's so cruel in what I'm saying or doing? Please point out what I said that would be cruel or untrue. The fact that 90% of homeless are homeless because of their own mistakes? And 100% of homeless cats and dogs are homeless because of the cruelty and/or stupidity of their owners? If you're homeless there are places where you can go to get food and shelter - but you can't drink alcohol there. Many prefer alcohol to shelter - but this is their own choice! There are places where they will try and help you to get back to normal life - but again, you must be willing to change your ways. I'm merely saying that humans do have a choice! What are the homeless animals supposed to do?

But to be honest, I couldn't care less if you respect me or not. I certainly don't respect people who are cruel towards animals.
landora   
6 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish people have a strange attitude to cats and dogs? [84]

because people die in Africa and you respect your dog more.

First of all , what's one to do with the other anyway? They are not starving because I'm feeding my dog! (well, I was feeding my dog, unfortunately it died of old age last winter, still miss it :( )

Secondly, I am responsible for my dog. I am not responsible for the whole humanity.

Thirdly, I respect anything and anyone that is alive. I love those close to me: friends, family and pets. Can you honestly say you love all those children in Africa?

Fourthly, what exactly are you doing for the famine victims? I used to spend my money on meat for my dog. Are you maybe buying nice cosmetics? Or expensive clothes? How dare you not spend it on starving children? Is buying nice things wrong, cause the money could be used for charity? Why buying dog food is worse then buying sweets for one's children? Surely they don't need it, they could go without, the money would be better spent for the kids in Africa?

In all honesty, unless you are not buying any commodities for yourself or your family, how dare you tell me what I should be spending my money on?

An alcoholic is also a human being and he also deserves for your respect because you never know what story is behind his fate. And you say we all responsible for our fate and, if I understand you correctly, those who screw up don't deserve for rescpect or compassion. Is it that what you mean?

That is not what I mean at all. As I said before, all the living beings deserve respect. The fact that humans have free will and can shape their fate has nothing to do with my respect of lack of it. The ones that screw up deserve compassion and also help if they are willing to make an effort as well. However, many people want money handed over with no effort from their side. It's the same as with unemployed who can't be bothered to work in a low paid job cause it's not good enough for them - and they expect the country to give them money. Or the families living in 1 room flat with 10 kids - moaning that social help is not enough, but refusing to work and yet producing even more children. I'm all for giving a helping hand - opportunity to work and better oneself. I'm completely against handing in ready solutions.

No they don't. You talk as if all those beggers where comfy with a fact they are nothing more than human scum (for many people).

They had a choice when they reached for the first bottle of vodka. They have a choice of going to a shelter in the middle of winter - if they stop drinking. Some of them are just liars - like a famous beggar in my city who can be seen with one leg injured... just it can be either right or left depending on a day!

People should be offered help, and they very often are...but many of them don't want to use it. And they do have a choice.
landora   
7 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

"Polka" music doesn't have much to do with Polish music just as well, as I said, it's a Czech dance ;) (not that I listen to rap).

I used to dance "polka" dances - on the concerts of bands such as Beltain or Sailor, so playing their variations on Irish/Sea shanties music. Not very Polish, is it?
landora   
7 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

Polka music is still more Polish than rapcrap.

Neither is particularly Polish, and both are rather crap.

I don't like rap, and I find "polkas" incredibly kitsch - something like an American version of disco-polo. I hope it will not become popular in Poland, I don't want to hear it on the radio!

P.S. My city is quite famous for its rapers - for example Peja (not that I see rap as any worthwile kind of music).
landora   
7 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

That's a pretty serious accusation you just made there. Who are you alleging that he raped?

:D My ears, for a start :P
landora   
8 Dec 2010
Language / Spelling "aunt" in Polish [142]

My Busia came from Warsaw in 1942 and she said it was short for Babuska. That is how they say Grandmother where she comes from!!

which means your grandmother is not Polish. Babushka is a Russian word.

My Busia, Dziadzia and Ciocia were Poles who were born in Minsk, Belarus. They moved to the US in 1911. The term Busia was probably very common at the beginning of the last century but fell out of use in Poland while staying popular with Polish Americans.

So they were from Eastern territories and probably were speaking some version of Polish that was mixed up with Russian or Bialorussian. The languages change, but the "old" word for grandma was "babka", not "busia". "Busia" is not a Polish word, and never was.
landora   
8 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / Why British men move to Poland [63]

Are you saying that Polish women don't look like that? becuase they do.

Well, I don't know any young Polish women being that grossly overweight. I met several British girls of the size of a young whale. I think it's just far more socially acceptable in the UK. They even had boyfriends, which probably wouldn't have happened here!

The thing is, I have friends who can't find clothes in most shops because the trend is for ridiculously small clothes.

In the UK I had trouble with finding clothes small enough, cause their size 8 would be our 10 and so on - I suppose to make women feel better? I saw plenty of clothes in sizes like 26 or so. Not very common in our shops, so there can't be many people that would need them?
landora   
10 Dec 2010
Law / Poland's Online Services for TAX, ZUS, etc. [4]

Not exactly. The accountant submits your declaration on line and she has a proof of that. She can't check if you've paid and if they received it.

You've got a proof of payment from the bank. You can request ZUS to check how much money you have. They send it periodically anyway - they sent it to me a while ago, that was funny :P
landora   
11 Dec 2010
Work / Education in Poland - system and structure [118]

I rarely find Polish people to have a genuinely clever sense of humor

Actually, Polish old comedies are simply brilliant - "Sami swoi", "co mi zrobisz jak mnie złapiesz", "Jak rozpętałem II wojnę światową"...

There was this programme on TV in the 90s called KOC (you can find some examples on youtube) - just like MontyPython!

Funnily enough, Polish adverts are very often really good as well - look at Heyah, Biedronka, Simplus ads :)

And haven't you ever heard of Laskowik??

But if you don't speak Polish, you will not benefit from this. Bear in mind, it's also far more difficult to joke in a foreign language. I speak English really well by now and still some "cultural" jokes skip my attention - just because they are based of knowledge I have no chance of having.
landora   
12 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

In the States, whatever was listened to or danced to by an ancestor was cherished as a tradition from the old country. At least this is my understanding.

Looks like Softsong is absolutely right.

It just amazes me why the Polish Americans are trying to insist that they know better what's Polish and what's not.

Here is Hej Sokoly as a polka, done Polish-American style.

It's a song sung usually by very drunk people by the bonfire. Her singing is not much different from the original drunk version, apart from the pronunciation, which is just awful. In general, ouch.
landora   
12 Dec 2010
Work / Education in Poland - system and structure [118]

Our comedians, indeed all comedians, rely on socially-specific topics, i.e 'topic' references, to make their audiences in stiches. Laughs by association, one might say

Exactly, they might refer to things like cartoons or old movies, which a foreigner doesn't know. Enough to see Shrek in Polish and in english. The Polish version is riddled with references to Polish movies and actors ("ciemność widzę"). Polish people will also use quotes from Polish movies or books, which will not make sense to a person who hasn't seen them - "parówkowym skrytożercom mówimy stanowcze "nie!" or "a podejdź no do płota, jak i ja podchodzę"...and many many more.
landora   
12 Dec 2010
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]

Certainly. Hardly any 'n-sensitive' people in this country. What's the social circle you're referring to? Not the GW spheres, I presume?

I've heard it from Gazeta Wyborcza loyalists, Rzeczpospolita loyalists, anarchists and Radio Maryja fans. Poles are simply not afraid of telling jokes about all sorts of minorities.

Then again, I don't think it's a surprise that it's the Polonia getting upset, not real Poles.
landora   
13 Dec 2010
News / "Letter from Poland" (List z Polski) by the Netherlands TV - [9]

Taking into account everything that's happened, president and large part of Polish elite dead, Russians uncooperating, not allowing Polish investigators into Russia and the head of the team conveniently dying in a car accident, knowing what Putin is capable of killing Russian journalists and blowing up a apartment block to have a reason for war, you have to at least suspect this documentary is true.

Just one question: why would they risk so much by killing the president, instead of just patiently waiting till the election, which he had no chance of winning whatsoever. I could believe that Russians are evil, but I don't think they are such idiots!
landora   
13 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

You don't get it. There is similar sounding kind of music in Poland and it's called "piosenka biesiadna". I will be played at some parties or picnics and weddings, especially in small towns or villages. It is very simple and the lyrics are crude. It is usually enjoyed by elderly people from small towns, with rather lower education.

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landora   
14 Dec 2010
Life / Polish-American Polka Music in Poland [60]

I've known some very smart people who didn't get past high school and some phd's who were so stupid (in everything but their very narrow field) they couldn't pour **** out of a boot with instructions printed on the bottom.

Obviously, it happens, but not as a rule.
By "lower education" I mean rather below high school.

Anyway, the thread is about music, not about my social views :D
landora   
14 Dec 2010
Life / The Polish Wedding - What is it Like in Poland? [338]

Every country and culture has some sort of ceremony in their weddings to show the woman has become a wife. In the US they throw their garter. Or do you think it's only the "villagers" there, too? Stop trying to turn helpful threads into negativity.

He's right though, the tradition came from the countryside. I won't have it, as it was never traditional in my family.
landora   
14 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

Dżoana Krupa is not really Polish, her accent is awful and she introduces English words into Polish sentences. I doubt she considers herself Polish.

And yes, it's Central :P
landora   
14 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" [568]

She was brought up in America, as I said, I don't think she considers herself to be Polish.

Also "możesz być one day on a cover of a magazine" - how is this great Polish?

However, I could agree that the first generation of Poles abroad are Polish, but I will never agree that people, whose grandparents emigrated to America are Polish. They've never lived here, they were born abroad and thye use words like "busha" - no, they are not Polish.

what is it polish people.....do you have to live in poland your whole life and "feel the pain" with the rest of the poor shlubs out here in order to be truly polish?

Well, at least try living here before telling us what to do with our country, claiming you're more patriotic or voting in our elections.
landora   
23 Jan 2011
Life / Some Poles have fine houses [68]

Also the concept of having a living room (one that you don't sleep in) and a dining room are almost unheard of.

People living in houses do have separate living rooms. I haven't seen a modern house without one.
Now, family of 3 living in a 3 room flat doesn't have much chance of having one, do they?
landora   
12 Feb 2011
Genealogy / Polish names derived from peasant animal names / from tools [9]

sikora is perfectly correct.
Worm - robak, there is no such animal as "glizda", it's glista, like "glista ludzka", belonging to "robaki obłe".

Earthworm, however, is "dżdżownica".
Bug is more like "owad".
Kur - an oldfashioned name for a cock.
Bumblebee is trzmiel, bąk is a gadfly.

you're right when it comes to "mysz", also "wiewióra" should be "wiewiórka".
landora   
14 Feb 2011
Law / The risk of investing in Europe has risen and Poland has suffered accordingly [90]

Nothing new there, they joined the EU on the promise of being given endless funds - and now that it appears that those funds aren't unlimited, Poland is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Wrong government with inappropriate policies, who have done little if nothing to change Poland for the better since their term in office, other than to line their own pockets. FACT !!

So, what would be the "right" government?
landora   
16 Feb 2011
News / Lech Kaczyński statue in Warsaw? [66]

Seeing as her grandfather was a traitor, her uncle is Poland's biggest hypocrite

You made me laugh :D
Her husband is a complete twat as well, so they all fit together nicely.

As for the statue, Wawel was more then enough for this mediocre president. I strongly object to spending the taxpayers' money on a statue for him!