Genealogy / Polish person's average height? [210]

5'9" full blooded polish female.

When I wear high heels I look like a runway model. All family members, cousins include, my height or taller btw.

Not short.

Life / Beggers namely Kurwa boys in Poland [70]

I've read a few newspaper articles here and there about beggars taking in as much as 300/400 USD per day in the right busy location.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

mine too, 1904-1906

austrian hungarian empire. did your family settle near Buffalo, steel workers? the steel mills were recruiting slavs. Bolsheviks were ripping through eastern europe creating mayhem. thus poles hate jews and our fathers died of emphysema.

my dad is actually still alive, the only one of his brothers who did not die of emphysema from the steel mill.. he is drinking himself to death at age 82.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]


no no, that is not true. Bolsheviks were working mayhem in Russia and east europe (poland, esotonia etc) since 1880's or so. Bolsheviks had russia fully in their grasp by 1905.

you need to read up on russian history and who were the bolsheviks. get a few different points of view.

and you may not understand but anyone who had a parent or relative who worked in the steel mills a couple decades knows about emphysema. the cars they drove home had an 1/8 inch of soot on them a lot of the time.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

I guess it all depends on which version of history you are taught.

These quotes are from 1920, from the Illustrated Sunday Herald.

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews...

"In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

"The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary."

and you know who wrote those words? Winston Churchill.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

My grandmother always insisted her side of the family was from Austria-Hungary, last name, in usa, was spelled Jarnot.

News / I suggest a new location on the map for Poland! [44]

yeah the nazis wanted to suggest a new location for poland too.

Life / Is Poland a safe country for people of color? [241]

My OP.. from America.. having a very polish family.. the old folks will gossip but you can win them over.. .. the younger folks will think you are very exotic because really, you are a beautiful girl, as per your photo.

Just be on your very best behavior, dress real nice, look real clean.. I don't think you will encounter gangs of Poles like whites encounter gangs of young blacks in certain cities here..

Poland is probably much safer for you than it is for a white boy in parts of Chicago.

Food / Do you call it kiszka or kaszanka? [55]

kiszka -kish-z-ka

dreadful stuff.

USA, Canada / Windows xp in USA in Polish? [13]

I'm pretty sure you just install the normal english version and then change the default language and fonts to polish.

my kid does japanese, it was breeze to convert his system from english to picturesque jap fonts and language.

you'll only need a keyboard that does polish.

I can get him on here to give you a tutorial if you want.

Life / Polish dentistry cost - 230 zl for one tooth cavity filling [99]

Here is some information about the dangers of silver (mercury amalgam) fillings.

toxicmercuryamalgam.com

Most people would be shocked to discover that those "silver" fillings are composed of over 50% mercury - the most toxic non-radioactive metal known to man - More deadly than lead, cadmium or even arsenic.

In fact, as you read this, you are probably slowly poisoning yourself with mercury leaking from those "silver" fillings.

Life / Polish dentistry cost - 230 zl for one tooth cavity filling [99]


Dentistry is a major industry, also the sale of mercury amalgam. The american dental association itself owns patents to amalgam formulas, it all about money for them, not health for you.

The logic of mercury amalgam is pretty much equivalent to the logic of flouridated water.

flouride was, probably still is, used by the chinese to keep their imprisoned workers docile. the nazis used it for the same thing. It actually is very bad for your bones, a leading cause of osteoporisis. Horses drink a lot of water, when they drink highly flouridated water they develop lung cancer and die within months.

There are some good videos at youtube about it.

USA, Canada / American Polonia. Wisconsin - the most Polish state? [112]

there are TONS of great lakes area (originally) Polish and slav retirees (70+) in Florida.

every grandpa with an auto or steel mill worker pension is down there.

probably won't see many more of those though.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

there is a real good book here you can download as a .pdf with all sorts of tidbits and details, very well documented

Traditional Jewish Attitudes Toward Poles

glaukopis.pl/pdf/czytelnia/TraditionalJewishAttitudesTowardPoles_MarkPaul.pdf

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Well, if all the jews in the ghetto spoke polish there might be a dialogue.

I think it's a great book, full of so many undeniably jewish and polish idiosyncrosies I've seen myself that it's hard not to chuckle despite the seriousness of it.

The best I have ever read as a matter of fact.


oh yes, no doubt you read it carefully when i posted the thing while I was on page 80 and here you are just a few hours later giving a book report on a 120 page book that I have not even had time to finish yet.

your reading skills amaze me and I thought I was good!

Really though.. it's simply your own prejudices that speak since you obviously have NOT read the book.

Nothing better than a prejudiced person calling someone else prejudiced, is there. No wonder the world has so many problems.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

You know what.. at this point I am going to ignore YOU completely because you are a flat out liar. You were responding directly me to me and i even quoted you speaking in context of Irena Sendler.

the darn book wasn't even published until a few months ago, it has footnotes right here dated 2009 on page 64.

191
Joe Friesen, “Black Belt Teen Strikes Back at Bully, and Rallies Community Around Racism,” The Globe and Mail,
April 30, 2009;

and the very first page says April 2009
Traditional Jewish Attitudes Toward Poles
by Mark Paul

You, vetala, flat out liar. Go home to your crib.

USA, Canada / American Polonia. Wisconsin - the most Polish state? [112]

actually my grandparents arrived here around 1905, both sides of the family. My oldest grandfather was born in 1893, was a teenager, and my grandmother there too, other side of the family, they were younger.. little kids when they arrived here. My dad was the youngest of 6 kids, his parents died when i was still a kid, they were pretty old. Barely spoke english.

What i meant to suggest is that..those numbers are low when you consider all the polish retirees in FL. Plenty of them are down there.

They all seem to speak Polish too.. in our generation.. polish was the 'secret' language the elders spoke when they didn't want us to know what they were talking about. It is too bad they did that but seems they did it a lot.

You know what even.. if you think about it.. chances are really good that a lot of Polish parents did not teach the native language to us kids after WWII because poland was in the soviet bloc then and maybe they didn't want us kids to be associated with that by our american peers.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

No idea why it didn't stay, it seemed to post, here it is again c/p

well now it's posted in 2 threads that's weird.

Anybody know anything about this?

A Corner of a Ugandan Field that is Forever Poland

I would like to share the amazing story of the 7,000 Polish people who were exiled to Uganda during and after World War II, between 1942 and 1952. Some 100 of them are buried in a cemetery in a village 100 km east of Uganda's capital, Kampala. Many people from Poland are not aware of this piece of history concerning their citizens, who suffered the worst atrocities of World War II. Perhaps there are survivors or their relatives who may be interested in the site. I foresee a possibility of developing historical tourism between the people of Poland and Uganda. The site is marked with a memorial stone bearing the names of the dead (see picture) where i took a Polish Visitor in 2005. The cream marble memorial stone was the good work of a Polish priest who lived in Uganda.

link here to page ->
odemagazine.com/exchange/76/a_corner_of_a_ugandan_field_that_is_forever_poland

and this accompanying info

The General Langfitt Story
Polish Refugees Recount Their Experiences of Exile, Dispersal and Resettlement

immi.gov.au/media/publications/refugee/langfitt

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


ok I apologize.

I cannot read every post all the time. and you posted right after I posted apparently mostly coincendental about pretty much the same thing.

You know.. there is something really wrong with this discussion if i may point it out.. and feel free to correct me if you really have FACTS that prove I am wrong.. but just prior to the state of israel coming along in 1948... and the zionists pushing all the palestianians and arabs out.. and causing so much trouble over there.. well those very same arabs, muslims and palestinians, from Tehran to Palestine to Iraq.. were giving refuge to displaced Polish citizens of the war.. and here.. you guys seem to be always on the side of Israel.. as though the arabs are your enemies.

According to the facts I've got, while this new Israel was pushing them out, it was those arabs and palestinians who were actually helping the Polish Catholic and Christian people.

So, I guess I really don't understand your logic or sympathies, if you truly are Polish, which seem more than just a little bit displaced in all this.

The polish refugees, those who survived russia, themselves also had to suffer the zionist surge in Israel you appear to support.

--- --- read this for instance --- ---

dpcamps.org/poland.html

The first stop of the refugees evacuated with Anders' army was Iran, where they found temporary quarters in large transit camps initially located in Pahlavi and Mashhad, and later in Tehran and Ahvaz. While Gen. Anders' troops were subsequently transferred to Palestine and from there to Iraq, the civilians remained in Iran. To accommodate the refugees, a sprawling stationary camp was established in Isfahan. Because it housed several camps for the thousands of orphaned Polish children, it came to be known as the "City of Polish Children." The relief assistance afforded by Polish, British, American, and Iranian authorities soon improved their living conditions and brought the devastating contagious diseases under control, diseases acquired in the Soviet Union which continued to rob the refugees of their lives even after liberation (over 2,000 refugees died in Iran alone).

and check this out:

immi.gov.au/media/publications/refugee/langfitt/langfitt26.htm

In January 1947, as many of the African settlements were being liquidated, Halina, Krystyna and their mother were moved to Gatooma Camp in Southern Rhodesia, where they joined Poles from many of the other Rhodesian camps. Their schooling continued for another year until the schools had to close as teachers and pupils left for England and other destinations. Once again, a commission from communist Poland arrived to 'encourage' them to return to Poland, which most refused. Branded as traitors and stripped of their Polish citizenship, these 'remnants' were moved to Tengeru early in 1948.

So those I mention above, and other refugees also, then in Africa as well, were stripped of their polish citizenship for refusing to return to communist Poland. Chances are more than excellent the 'arabs' you seem to despise include a good number of polish x-citizens with no where to go who were living largely in the good graces and often charity of those same arab and muslim societies.

These people befriended the Polish people in a big way and gave them a home when they had none.

Now, on that I may lack a few facts, feel free to tutor me.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


It's not a matter of being pro this or anti-that. War simply is not the answer to anything in this day and age. And it has nothing to do with nuclear weapons. it has to do with the fact that.. PP, maybe you look at an arab and see a violent muslim.. but what you are missing is that mixed into this crowd are the rest of your family. And for whatever reason.. how is they have survived so well here.. and suddenly.. the past couple of decades especially.. all this hatred gets kicked up?

Your polish cousins are.. palestinians.. lebanese.. iranians.. yes indeed they are. I would suggest you try, simply try, to respect them that's all. And you might just find out, most of these people are not violent people. They simply want to live in peace just like you do. Supporting their destruction.. hmm... I hope you have a nice way of explaining that one to your creator someday. and your cousins who go before you.

Try this short video about one of those polish war refugees who ends up marrying an iranian for some insight.

Polish Passage to Iran

jadidonline.com/images/stories/flash_multimedia/Polish_%20refugee_%20iran_eng_test/pol_high.html

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

which is basically what I'm saying..

it's not an 'us' and 'them' thing.

it's just an 'us' thing. all the populations of the earth are intermixed these days.

The muslims are reacting to the situation in the mideast.. extremism on one side begets extremism on the other... which turns it into the us and them thing. None of this existed before Israel became a state and started bulldozing palestine and pushing people off the land.

All those muslims in UK, they are coming from somewhere you know (aside from the new births in UK). they hate what's going on in the mideast too. so they go to France or UK or wherever seeking peace and a place to raise their kids safely, it really is that simple.

of course they have within them an extreme element.. well.. every society has it's nutjobs.. so do the jews and zionists.. even the christians do to some extent. Even athiests have an extreme element. it's not just a religious thing. those muslim extremists.. they are the product of a few generations growing up under conditions of war upon their people.. they fought the soviets.. they fight the zionists.. now they fight the west.. they never asked for war, they were invaded. it's not difficult to see that at all. grow up in a war zone, you become a militant.. it's simply a survival tactic.

Right now though it is the media focusing a lot on the extremes of islam. This sways the opinion of a lot of people. And a lot of the media we watch in the west really is controlled by jewish zionists, bankers, very wealthy people. the opinion they present.. is their own.

I could make a list here of all the jewish owned media.. you would be surprised I'm sure. A jewish college buddy of mine got a job right after graduating with a big tv entertainment/news company. He told me quite directly it was because he was jewish. Thing is, he wasn't kidding.

what do you think about what this guy has to say?

Jewish Viewpoint On Israel

youtube.com/watch?v=k2vV5qOf5YQ

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

Quite a few of them stayed on in palestine and Lebanon though.

and there was/is (but smaller now) a pretty thriving Christian community especially in Lebanon a few decades ago.

lots went south to new zealand and australia too.

I know there were a lot of Christians in Iraq before the invasion too. I wonder if a lot of them were the children of polish refugees too.

We are an international community! Maybe when people here say to polish people living in other countries 'you're not polish!' it's actually the soviet indoctrination speaking. the soviets disenfranchised all the poles overseas who wouldn't return.

Stalin actually did them a great blessing by cattle training them out of Poland when he did.. albeit a lot died on the journey but lots died at home too.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]


Interesting. Then Polish people outside of Poland have no ancestry? Definitely unique. Kind of rewrites world history. So then, that would also explain why soviet Russians inside Poland are now Polish?


Only after 1918. Prior to which all Poles must have actually been Austrians.

You europeans are all alike, I think.

Notably however I do usually tell people I am Austrian here in America. Telling them I am Polish gets me an eeew and a grimace whereas telling them I am Austrian is acceptable and welcome. I tell them the Z in my name is related to the Schwarzeneggar clan.

heh. it works too. they like that. I have never been questioned once about it and I have been doing it for over 20 years.

I don't look like a babushka no reason to act like one.

Modern Poles however are not afforded that luxury. Not if they or a parent/grandparent are born in Poland after 1918. American law stipulates it.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]


Polish people are looked upon as sort of backwards, not real bright, in most places except Polish communities. When I was growing up, a teenager in the late 70's, being Polish was not something you advertised.

still isn't as far as I can tell. The last time someone gave me an eeew when I said my family were Polish was just 4-5 weeks ago. So I added in.. of course, but my mom's family were austrians. Then I got a smile and a nod.

You think I'm kidding? I am not kidding. My grandmother's family actually was from the german border, near auswitz. So I can bend that a little bit when i need to :)


No.. it's true.. they were pushed out by force.. but they, and their children, did not have to live the next 50 years as slaves to the communists either.

They went where they wanted to, they did what they wanted to. Unlike the families locked inside Poland.

It was awful nice of all those austrian hungarians to fight to establish a country named Poland in 1918. Did they invent the language too?

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

perhaps. but pretty common, been experiencing it all my life.

So just tell em you're austrian, no problem.

We are pretty much austrian anyway. Being Polish, what is it really? Warsaw to Vienna is a shorter drive than New York to Miami.

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


that's why we have to say no to secular humanism.

it lacks faith and so tries to get rid of anything that might compete with it.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]


I think what you are trying to say is.. not a Polish citizen.

Kind of difficult to erase a person's ancestry sjam. But you sure are working hard at it. Any particular reason for that?

It would sound rather silly if I went around telling people I fell to earth when they asked about my family.

But you know what, if you really feel this way about people, why don't you send an email to the owner of this board and ask him why he would even bother with a section as silly as genealogy and ancestry.. if all these things are nonsense. Maybe you should head to that section and tell everyone who posts there that they are not Polish either.

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]


yeah so why sjam is trying to insist I want to be a Polish citizen is beyond me.

He sure does seem bent on it though.


no desire to be a british citizen ruled by morons either. thanks for the offer though.

History / Poland and Muslims (Tatars and others). [81]

well it's usa not poland, but we have a muslim president and the world is not falling apart. yet. as long as he is a good diplomat it may even be helpful in world affiars.

youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY