Ironside
31 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
BS and you interpretation sucks !
since every tax payer's money goes to RCC.
BS and you interpretation sucks !
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
Yeah, and had 241 universities but Poles destroyed them all except those 10 !
No, Lviv has 10 universities,
Yeah, and had 241 universities but Poles destroyed them all except those 10 !
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
I think that I already answered that question !
Those decisions should not be left for a low key administration employees !They mean well and their decision could be even logical but their lack wider perspective or plainly don't care!Well, fair enough!
The fact that politicians or top brass of US restrained to make changes speak volumes about US government attitude toward Poland.
You may ask why should said politicians influence work of administrators ? Well, for continuous military and political support given to USA by Poland - which they seems not to value much.
They choose not to do so, fine thats their right but it also my right to have my own conclusion as have every Polak!
Fuzz, basically you asking me to understand US decision - and believe me I do understand - but you asking me to agree with it - I cannot do that, sorry fuzz!
Anyway, circumstances changed since 90s but not US clerks attitude!
You stating is as the fact! Do you know that to be the fact or it just your stipulations?
the problem is that so called polish government is a bunch of fukkers who couldn't care less!
Why should America change their policy?
I think that I already answered that question !
Those decisions should not be left for a low key administration employees !They mean well and their decision could be even logical but their lack wider perspective or plainly don't care!Well, fair enough!
The fact that politicians or top brass of US restrained to make changes speak volumes about US government attitude toward Poland.
You may ask why should said politicians influence work of administrators ? Well, for continuous military and political support given to USA by Poland - which they seems not to value much.
They choose not to do so, fine thats their right but it also my right to have my own conclusion as have every Polak!
Fuzz, basically you asking me to understand US decision - and believe me I do understand - but you asking me to agree with it - I cannot do that, sorry fuzz!
Anyway, circumstances changed since 90s but not US clerks attitude!
which is why you need to consider the fact that it may be Poland, not the USA that is holding on to the VWP exclusion.
You stating is as the fact! Do you know that to be the fact or it just your stipulations?
the problem is that so called polish government is a bunch of fukkers who couldn't care less!
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
Well, but I do ! Well, admit Poland into the VWP and if your worst speculation become reality, you can always revise your policy !
maybe not pure but speculation nevertheless !
BS ! I don't see sense in your policy towards Poland ! You don;t even consider my points but stick to your bureaucratic BS and you expect me to fall for your bureaucratic way of thinking boooo!
Ah I do not advocate on favor of emigration, I think is a disaster! I have just presented a view on the matter of polish moronic government!
What logistic ? based on estimated data and outdated circumstances - good luck !
I'm simply asking you to consider the possibility,
Well, but I do ! Well, admit Poland into the VWP and if your worst speculation become reality, you can always revise your policy !
pure speculation"
maybe not pure but speculation nevertheless !
Blind nationalistic pride. Boo hoo hoo.
BS ! I don't see sense in your policy towards Poland ! You don;t even consider my points but stick to your bureaucratic BS and you expect me to fall for your bureaucratic way of thinking boooo!
actually it means more of your tax dollars spent on education
Ah I do not advocate on favor of emigration, I think is a disaster! I have just presented a view on the matter of polish moronic government!
I'll stick with logistics.
What logistic ? based on estimated data and outdated circumstances - good luck !
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
UK, Ireland / Do Poles in the UK pretend to be uppity because they have an inferiority complex? [60]
Is your father a shrink ?
were all nasty they are all nasty, up to the man ! Avoid them !
were all nasty and seemed to have inferiority complexes
Is your father a shrink ?
were all nasty they are all nasty, up to the man ! Avoid them !
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
That is all a very well and logical but as you say it is built on a pure speculations! You ask me to imagine, you are taking about close minded stance and all!
Well, I can image things, I can even put myself into your shoes and see it from your point of view.
However, I self-appointed myself here on PF to represent interest of Poland! As such I'm not willing to consider speculations and imagination as a fact!
I can grand you that that you have taken into account a many circumstances. Yet, you didn't provided any hard data - no numbers of actual illegal immigrants from Poland!
Most likely such data doesn't exists and US policy is based on such estimations as you have presented above.
I think that they should reconsider!
Well, you are forgetting that Poland population has shrinking capacity for emigration, and even if some of them decide to become illegals in USA when they can go legally to others country's of EU, then you will find that even less people will be going to USA!
Those 20 000 hypothetical, I imagine that could happen in the first year or two after opening visa free travel!However later that current would dry out, less young people, opportunity in Europe, and most of a people which are prone to emigrate, have emigrated already !
Most of Poles from UK would not choose emigration to USA for number of reasons:
- that kind of money they can earn as illegal immigrants they can have in UK legally whiteout these risks and indignities an illegal immigrant is likely to face !
- some are planing to go back to Poland
- they have opportunity for legal emigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia !
Sure, there always people up for an adventure but it would be only a trickle not a flood as your predictions shows !
I understand plan for the worst but consider this : is this hypothetical danger in the long run is worth of antagonizing Poland?
Really? Poland government doesn't care as they think in the short terms of the next election !
Money send by Poles from abroad is a considerable amount, and it improves all statistical and real economical situation of the country! So, they don't give a shite if those monies are from Poles in USA, UK or the Moon, also emigrants means less unemployed and more work places - and which government would resist to take a credit for that ?
So, no sunshine is not Poland doing !
I must say that for born and breed American for a few generations, your English is positively dreadful, are you a retard or semi-illiterate ?
That is all a very well and logical but as you say it is built on a pure speculations! You ask me to imagine, you are taking about close minded stance and all!
Well, I can image things, I can even put myself into your shoes and see it from your point of view.
However, I self-appointed myself here on PF to represent interest of Poland! As such I'm not willing to consider speculations and imagination as a fact!
I can grand you that that you have taken into account a many circumstances. Yet, you didn't provided any hard data - no numbers of actual illegal immigrants from Poland!
Most likely such data doesn't exists and US policy is based on such estimations as you have presented above.
I think that they should reconsider!
Well, you are forgetting that Poland population has shrinking capacity for emigration, and even if some of them decide to become illegals in USA when they can go legally to others country's of EU, then you will find that in time, less and less people will be going to USA!
Those 20 000 hypothetical immigrants per year?
I imagine that could happen in the first year or two after opening visa free travel!However later that current would dry out, less young people, opportunity in Europe, and a fact that most of the people which are prone to emigrate, would have emigrated already !
Most of Poles from UK would not choose emigration to USA for number of reasons:
- that kind of money they can earn as illegal immigrants they can have in UK legally whiteout these risks and indignities an illegal immigrant is likely to face !
- some are planing to go back to Poland
- they have opportunity for legal emigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia !
Sure, there always people up for an adventure but it would be only a trickle not a flood as your predictions shows !
I understand you plan for the worst, but consider this : is this hypothetical danger in the long run is worth of antagonizing Poland?
Really? Poland's government doesn't care as they think in the short terms of the next election !
Money send by Poles from abroad is a considerable amount, and it improves all statistical and real economical situation of the country!
They don't give a **** if those monies are from Poles in USA, UK or the Moon, also emigrants means lower unemployed and more workplaces available - and which government would resist to take a credit for that ?
So no, sunshine is not Poland's doing !
I must say that your English is positively dreadful as for a native speaker.
That is all a very well and logical but as you say it is built on a pure speculations! You ask me to imagine, you are taking about close minded stance and all!
Well, I can image things, I can even put myself into your shoes and see it from your point of view.
However, I self-appointed myself here on PF to represent interest of Poland! As such I'm not willing to consider speculations and imagination as a fact!
I can grand you that that you have taken into account a many circumstances. Yet, you didn't provided any hard data - no numbers of actual illegal immigrants from Poland!
Most likely such data doesn't exists and US policy is based on such estimations as you have presented above.
I think that they should reconsider!
f we were suddenly looking at 15,000-20,000 illegals per year Ironside,
Well, you are forgetting that Poland population has shrinking capacity for emigration, and even if some of them decide to become illegals in USA when they can go legally to others country's of EU, then you will find that even less people will be going to USA!
Those 20 000 hypothetical, I imagine that could happen in the first year or two after opening visa free travel!However later that current would dry out, less young people, opportunity in Europe, and most of a people which are prone to emigrate, have emigrated already !
Sure, people like to argue that Poles prefer the UK because it's cheaper to fly there and it's within the EU meaning they can work legally (a valid point) but consider the fact that if even
Most of Poles from UK would not choose emigration to USA for number of reasons:
- that kind of money they can earn as illegal immigrants they can have in UK legally whiteout these risks and indignities an illegal immigrant is likely to face !
- some are planing to go back to Poland
- they have opportunity for legal emigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia !
Sure, there always people up for an adventure but it would be only a trickle not a flood as your predictions shows !
I understand plan for the worst but consider this : is this hypothetical danger in the long run is worth of antagonizing Poland?
It is Poland who is restricting the visa to US, because they do not return and Poland will be left empty.
Really? Poland government doesn't care as they think in the short terms of the next election !
Money send by Poles from abroad is a considerable amount, and it improves all statistical and real economical situation of the country! So, they don't give a shite if those monies are from Poles in USA, UK or the Moon, also emigrants means less unemployed and more work places - and which government would resist to take a credit for that ?
So, no sunshine is not Poland doing !
I must say that for born and breed American for a few generations, your English is positively dreadful, are you a retard or semi-illiterate ?
NOW, sure, you can read all this and still shout "speculation!" but man, whether it is or isn't, is it something that difficult to imagine? When considering all this, do you still feel just as confident taking a completely close minded stance on the topic, adamantly pushing on that Poland's exclusion from the VWP is beyond a shadow of a doubt "unjustifiable"?
That is all a very well and logical but as you say it is built on a pure speculations! You ask me to imagine, you are taking about close minded stance and all!
Well, I can image things, I can even put myself into your shoes and see it from your point of view.
However, I self-appointed myself here on PF to represent interest of Poland! As such I'm not willing to consider speculations and imagination as a fact!
I can grand you that that you have taken into account a many circumstances. Yet, you didn't provided any hard data - no numbers of actual illegal immigrants from Poland!
Most likely such data doesn't exists and US policy is based on such estimations as you have presented above.
I think that they should reconsider!
f we were suddenly looking at 15,000-20,000 illegals per year Ironside,
Well, you are forgetting that Poland population has shrinking capacity for emigration, and even if some of them decide to become illegals in USA when they can go legally to others country's of EU, then you will find that in time, less and less people will be going to USA!
Those 20 000 hypothetical immigrants per year?
I imagine that could happen in the first year or two after opening visa free travel!However later that current would dry out, less young people, opportunity in Europe, and a fact that most of the people which are prone to emigrate, would have emigrated already !
Sure, people like to argue that Poles prefer the UK because it's cheaper to fly there and it's within the EU meaning they can work legally (a valid point) but consider the fact that if even
Most of Poles from UK would not choose emigration to USA for number of reasons:
- that kind of money they can earn as illegal immigrants they can have in UK legally whiteout these risks and indignities an illegal immigrant is likely to face !
- some are planing to go back to Poland
- they have opportunity for legal emigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia !
Sure, there always people up for an adventure but it would be only a trickle not a flood as your predictions shows !
I understand you plan for the worst, but consider this : is this hypothetical danger in the long run is worth of antagonizing Poland?
It is Poland who is restricting the visa to US, because they do not return and Poland will be left empty.
Really? Poland's government doesn't care as they think in the short terms of the next election !
Money send by Poles from abroad is a considerable amount, and it improves all statistical and real economical situation of the country!
They don't give a **** if those monies are from Poles in USA, UK or the Moon, also emigrants means lower unemployed and more workplaces available - and which government would resist to take a credit for that ?
So no, sunshine is not Poland's doing !
I must say that your English is positively dreadful as for a native speaker.
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
Ah yes ! Silly me, the world famous book, must know for any literate entity on the Planet!
by Bohdan Makarenko"The 10 000 year of continuous existence of the Ukrainian Empire" !
Sorry, Nat obciagaczu :) my mistake:)
Open at least a book, małpko.
Ah yes ! Silly me, the world famous book, must know for any literate entity on the Planet!
by Bohdan Makarenko"The 10 000 year of continuous existence of the Ukrainian Empire" !
Sorry, Nat obciagaczu :) my mistake:)
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
No, it doesn't work that way in the RCC!
What that gibberish is about ? Removing from public spaces everything religious is not as you try to persuade fair, but in reality is a very aggressive action against religion ! Anyone attempting such action should be put behind the bars as fukker he is ! Secular country means that states is no interfering into religious matters - thats all! And over-interpretation by some fukkers should be branded for what it really is - an anti-religious aggression !
In order to forgive the sinful, you must be a morally upstanding person yourself. I'm very sure of my own words here.
No, it doesn't work that way in the RCC!
should be removed form public spaces etc. just to be fair and not promote any one religion,
What that gibberish is about ? Removing from public spaces everything religious is not as you try to persuade fair, but in reality is a very aggressive action against religion ! Anyone attempting such action should be put behind the bars as fukker he is ! Secular country means that states is no interfering into religious matters - thats all! And over-interpretation by some fukkers should be branded for what it really is - an anti-religious aggression !
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
they do not pretend to be pure, quite the opposite
saying all this stuff as if you believed that it all works this way you described -I mean about a governments ...
I-S, to się dowiedz ;)
they do not pretend to be pure, quite the opposite
Naive? Why would you say so?
saying all this stuff as if you believed that it all works this way you described -I mean about a governments ...
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
well, something that I'm not aware of .....
really ?:D
people ?
surly you are a naive fellow .....:)
Clergy DO pretend to be pure
well, something that I'm not aware of .....
Governments are directly accountable to the people
really ?:D
can hold a wayward priest to account?
people ?
surly you are a naive fellow .....:)
Ironside
31 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
Oh but they do ! at last that they are purer than opposition.......
On the other hand clergy doesn't pretend to be pure, where that silly idea coming from?
National governments do not pretend to be pure.
Oh but they do ! at last that they are purer than opposition.......
On the other hand clergy doesn't pretend to be pure, where that silly idea coming from?
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
News / A devestating verdict on the Polish church [279]
Well, lets have a vote on this one !
If so, then all religious symbols and national holidays and everything religious should be removed form public spaces etc.
Well, lets have a vote on this one !
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
Its diplomacy :) Actually I think that more then 30 000 illegals per year would be enough to justify exclusion of Poland from the VWP!
I think that there never was more of them in the first place!Well, except maybe of few years after 89!
Poland needs radical change otherwise is doomed anyway!
As for USA I would hate to lecture you what need to be done!
Its diplomacy :) Actually I think that more then 30 000 illegals per year would be enough to justify exclusion of Poland from the VWP!
I think that there never was more of them in the first place!Well, except maybe of few years after 89!
would be catastrophic to Poland's economy
Poland needs radical change otherwise is doomed anyway!
As for USA I would hate to lecture you what need to be done!
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
yeah demolition guys thats us, you can always depend on us !
my point is when there appeared Ukrainian buildings when there was no Ukraine, no before 1990?eh ? smart pants ?
My point is that destruction is your main achievement here. You succeded.
yeah demolition guys thats us, you can always depend on us !
my point is when there appeared Ukrainian buildings when there was no Ukraine, no before 1990?eh ? smart pants ?
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
About the numbers ! You were asking about them and I have given them to you ! So, what your reaction, thoughts - ******* something !
about what?
About the numbers ! You were asking about them and I have given them to you ! So, what your reaction, thoughts - ******* something !
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
I'm not typical at all!
Point is you don't know me. However I know educated Americans like yourself, are often oblivious to the local sensitivities, sometimes stamped with secular brand on their forehead!
Arrogant, and so sure that the american way is the way!
And those with prospect in administration are the worst kind!
matter of opinion !
matter of opinion and a very nonsensitive and callous of you fuzz!
its all is the matter of opinion.....
And if you getting personal I can only say that I don't care about opinion of bureaucratic dullard !
What about the issue we discus, nothing to say eh?
a typical Polish dude.
I'm not typical at all!
Point is you don't know me. However I know educated Americans like yourself, are often oblivious to the local sensitivities, sometimes stamped with secular brand on their forehead!
Arrogant, and so sure that the american way is the way!
And those with prospect in administration are the worst kind!
nationalistic,
matter of opinion !
blindly catholic
matter of opinion and a very nonsensitive and callous of you fuzz!
no sense of style, zero creativity or imagination
its all is the matter of opinion.....
And if you getting personal I can only say that I don't care about opinion of bureaucratic dullard !
What about the issue we discus, nothing to say eh?
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
My little trap worked :D Sure they were legal as all immigrants at the time were legal ! USA had first regulated immigration in the XX century, Lupus ! Anyway I don't believe you !
Thats BS ! you silly diaper !
Yeah? That is exclusively trait of Poles ?! See, I knew somehow that you are **** for brains but now you have handed me prove on the silver plater, thanks !
Gee, you live in slums and keep complaining about neighborhood, genius !
And nobody checked whereas they're there legally or not ? That exactly my point - your system sucks and you keep blaming immigrants !
do they ? why hire them on the first place ? They are there illegally, have no skills obviously and you still hire them? because they are cheap ?
What that make you scrooge and an accomplice in crime ! Well, you were calling for putting them into the prison ? You should have a cell next to them, moron !
Yes you do ! as you have proved yourself, all in one post !
Really? Maybe for people from slums, and you should know something about it!
Anyway, those swiping generalizations are useless - some do and some don't (sorry Seanus )!
Well, people like what fuzz ? People who are not sucking up ? People with self-respect ? what was that fuzz ?
To answer your question : 300 000 per year actually overstaying their visas would be too many!
For you to set clear criteria for everyone, set immigration laws and set internal control thats works and implement it ! That would be fine !
What you have net with prejudice, and Mexicans flooding your country, but no drop of 12 ooo Poles per year would just drown us ! ******* BS! Stop that hypocritical BS and set your country right instead of blaming the others for your shortcomings !Thats what I want!
Well, I'm sure now that you are one of them - bureaucrats!
No, you better shut up coz my ancestors came in 1800's from Europe and yes they were legal.
My little trap worked :D Sure they were legal as all immigrants at the time were legal ! USA had first regulated immigration in the XX century, Lupus ! Anyway I don't believe you !
Lol, Poles always feel left out and insulted no matter what.
Thats BS ! you silly diaper !
You give them an inch, they take a mile and unfortunately, many are not honest.
Yeah? That is exclusively trait of Poles ?! See, I knew somehow that you are **** for brains but now you have handed me prove on the silver plater, thanks !
Just like the Poles that keep parking on my property
Gee, you live in slums and keep complaining about neighborhood, genius !
They were ticketed and towed,
And nobody checked whereas they're there legally or not ? That exactly my point - your system sucks and you keep blaming immigrants !
they do everything backwards,
do they ? why hire them on the first place ? They are there illegally, have no skills obviously and you still hire them? because they are cheap ?
What that make you scrooge and an accomplice in crime ! Well, you were calling for putting them into the prison ? You should have a cell next to them, moron !
I dont encourage people to break laws or rules to get what they want
Yes you do ! as you have proved yourself, all in one post !
to lie, cheat and get over on people.
Really? Maybe for people from slums, and you should know something about it!
Anyway, those swiping generalizations are useless - some do and some don't (sorry Seanus )!
what IS too many? where ironside...
Well, people like what fuzz ? People who are not sucking up ? People with self-respect ? what was that fuzz ?
To answer your question : 300 000 per year actually overstaying their visas would be too many!
ironside but that's exactly what you want.
For you to set clear criteria for everyone, set immigration laws and set internal control thats works and implement it ! That would be fine !
What you have net with prejudice, and Mexicans flooding your country, but no drop of 12 ooo Poles per year would just drown us ! ******* BS! Stop that hypocritical BS and set your country right instead of blaming the others for your shortcomings !Thats what I want!
Even an idiot could manage if they decided to overstay their visa.
Well, I'm sure now that you are one of them - bureaucrats!
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
News / POLISH CHILD ABUSING A CAT.. [74]
or good ! they need guidance, in this case obviously lacking ...
children are not born bad.
or good ! they need guidance, in this case obviously lacking ...
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
News / POLISH CHILD ABUSING A CAT.. [74]
Nonsense animals are not vicious, only dangerous, I find people viscus, and mostly b:tches !
But some animals are viscious,
Nonsense animals are not vicious, only dangerous, I find people viscus, and mostly b:tches !
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
They were Ukrainians in disguise !
In 996 only ten years after Ukrainians military as the first in the world used rockets on the battlefield!
Ukrainian engineers:
and T-short for you :
what Portuguese engineers
They were Ukrainians in disguise !
What year Polish used their first rocket,
In 996 only ten years after Ukrainians military as the first in the world used rockets on the battlefield!
Ukrainian engineers:
and T-short for you :
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
News / POLISH CHILD ABUSING A CAT.. [74]
I think it was the older brother !
It occurred to me that maybe the cat was treated well prior to the incident and was too shocked to react !Cats can be pretty flexible with ability to defend itself !
Yeah ! that possible I suppose !
Effin shyte-hed parents even presented the poor thing back to the little puke.
I think it was the older brother !
I thought the poor thing was dead or dying
It occurred to me that maybe the cat was treated well prior to the incident and was too shocked to react !Cats can be pretty flexible with ability to defend itself !
Maybe it got a worse beating if it did try to defend itself?
Yeah ! that possible I suppose !
Ironside
30 Dec 2010
News / POLISH CHILD ABUSING A CAT.. [74]
I just wonder why the cat wasn't defending himself ? strange ..
I just wonder why the cat wasn't defending himself ? strange ..
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
Sure they didn't they just invaded powerful and peaceful Ukrainian nation, which was famous even before 333BC when they kicked ass of Alexander of Macedonia!
After short spell of Polish occupation, by the power of cultural achievements Ukrainians kicked out Poles. After that Ukraine become the world power under the name of USSR !
Shoot ! I could become a famous and cherish historian if I declared myself an Ukrainian !:P
Poles didn't built Lviv.
Sure they didn't they just invaded powerful and peaceful Ukrainian nation, which was famous even before 333BC when they kicked ass of Alexander of Macedonia!
After short spell of Polish occupation, by the power of cultural achievements Ukrainians kicked out Poles. After that Ukraine become the world power under the name of USSR !
Shoot ! I could become a famous and cherish historian if I declared myself an Ukrainian !:P
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
News / Sikorski doctrine - Eastern Europe under threat. Poland's foreign policy. [157]
served fuckker right !
sure you don't you are just a natural sucker !
BS, you don't belong ! As long as you keep up this BS there is only war !
Stepan Bandera, the leader of future UPA, declared independance of Ukraine on June 30th, 1941, he was thrown into prison.
served fuckker right !
I admire Germany and its people. You are amazing.
I am not sucking up.
sure you don't you are just a natural sucker !
including Polish came over to where they didn't belong.
BS, you don't belong ! As long as you keep up this BS there is only war !
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]
It means that I'm not really interested in explaining that phenomena on PF! On the other hand you as an Ukrainian evenplastic one could use this knowledge but you are being in denial and all - Why shouldIbother ?
Somehow?
It means that I'm not really interested in explaining that phenomena on PF! On the other hand you as an Ukrainian evenplastic one could use this knowledge but you are being in denial and all - Why shouldIbother ?
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
Yeah ! and nobody is hiding it really, young genius !
Cut the crap yourself, surly the US policy towards Poland cannot be that stupid as to antagonize Poles for a reason of 12000potential Poles per year overstaying their visa!
**** !there more Mexican crossing border in one hour than Poles staying per year - potentially staying at that !
You 10 million Poles in USA is hardly number of illegal immigrants, so I do not really understand the reason to bring that number up other than clouding the issue!Why would you like to cloud the issue?eh?
Admitting in the VWP others country's of the region and excluding Poland is insulting as hell!
Get real eh? Was your parents or grandparents all that legal, count yourself lucky then, as for others preachers if your ancestors emigrated after 1921 you better shut up !
Yeah? And who are you to tell the other to not better themselves - I'm sure their children will be preaching on the very forum the same ! buzz off sledz!
it simply pisses you off that Poland is not in the VWP
Yeah ! and nobody is hiding it really, young genius !
Cut the crap
Cut the crap yourself, surly the US policy towards Poland cannot be that stupid as to antagonize Poles for a reason of 12000potential Poles per year overstaying their visa!
**** !there more Mexican crossing border in one hour than Poles staying per year - potentially staying at that !
You 10 million Poles in USA is hardly number of illegal immigrants, so I do not really understand the reason to bring that number up other than clouding the issue!Why would you like to cloud the issue?eh?
Admitting in the VWP others country's of the region and excluding Poland is insulting as hell!
Exactly, Poles come to America and install their own rules instead of following the rules of this country, then they wonder why Americans don't like them.
Get real eh? Was your parents or grandparents all that legal, count yourself lucky then, as for others preachers if your ancestors emigrated after 1921 you better shut up !
Maybe someday Poles will learn how to obey rules and laws
Yeah? And who are you to tell the other to not better themselves - I'm sure their children will be preaching on the very forum the same ! buzz off sledz!
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
Is that your inner discourse sledz-Tygrys ?
Blame your own dishonest countrymen like Tygrys stated:)
Is that your inner discourse sledz-Tygrys ?
Ironside
29 Dec 2010
History / Former American President Adams in Poland. [54]
That is BS BB! Do you come with this blood tiescrap?I wonder why the Germans and the Germanic people always feel need to stress those bond of blood!?
Do they feel themselves so insecure being bastards and mongrels in all ?
Silesia belonged o Prussia since 1746 if I remember correctly and Prussia become Germany in 1871!
So your claims are simply laughable BB!
I'm laughing at you now :D
1800 years of german history in these lands Iron, think about it if you again start to whine about your hole Lwow you had for a few years!
That is BS BB! Do you come with this blood tiescrap?I wonder why the Germans and the Germanic people always feel need to stress those bond of blood!?
Do they feel themselves so insecure being bastards and mongrels in all ?
Silesia belonged o Prussia since 1746 if I remember correctly and Prussia become Germany in 1871!
So your claims are simply laughable BB!
I'm laughing at you now :D
Ironside
28 Dec 2010
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]
you are the one avoiding questions fuzz !
Anyway, what kind of crooked thinking is that ?:
The point is you or nobody else can be certain who will overstay visa or who will not, and that is that ! Somebody guess taken as a success, because it is a hypothetical success!
What a messy way of thinking, its sick !Well, are you one of them? bureaucrats?
That would be an explanation !
you still decided to avoid my question.
you are the one avoiding questions fuzz !
Anyway, what kind of crooked thinking is that ?:
Is the USA ok for denying 12,000 people from Poland if they ALL were going to overstay? What about 8,000? What about 6,000? 5,000?
The point is you or nobody else can be certain who will overstay visa or who will not, and that is that ! Somebody guess taken as a success, because it is a hypothetical success!
What a messy way of thinking, its sick !Well, are you one of them? bureaucrats?
That would be an explanation !