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Ironside   
27 May 2011
History / What was it like in 1989+ in Poland when the Soviet house of cards fell? [237]

This is one of popular conspiracy theories.

Rather logical conclusions given few facts which seen daylight in a meantime.

Leszek Balcerowicz, the man who made a free-economy (capitalist) country of Poland

I'm all ears now what he did - exactly to make capitalist country out of Poland?
Ironside   
27 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Excelent country was that who saved from soviets yet tried to absord Lithuania herself

tried ? if ever Poland try to absorb Lithuania as you put nicely, by the military force you wouldn't last a week.Not deterrent of any-kind stopped Poland from absorbing Lithuania before WWII but a good will.

Let see Lithuanian point of view in the sunlight!
They declared Independence and they demand Wilno. On what grounds - historical capital of The GDL - well, are you continuation of The GDL?
I would really like to hear the answer to the above question.

Those territories were Lithuania's, yet Poland breached lithuanians lines and used that breach to flank soviets and move toward Vilnius.

So, by your own admission Lithuanians were for all the practical purposes allied with Soviets?

Ironside, it is you who is ignorant.

really?

The were two declarations:
1)1917 12 11. With ties with Germany
2)1918 02 16 full independance

you were talking about Act of Independence declared in Wilno - and that only act declared in Wilno was under German rule.Hardly independent state - a buffer state created by Germany.

here for your further education :
This situation changed when the German Revolution started and Germany lost the war in the fall of 1918 – it was no longer in a position to dictate terms. The Council of Lithuania adopted the first provisional constitution on November. The functions of government were entrusted to a three-member presidium, and Augustinas Voldemaras was invited to form the first Cabinet of Ministers of Lithuania.The first government was formed on November 11, 1918, on the day that Germany signed the armistice in Compiègne. The Council immediately began to organize an army, police, municipalities, and other institutions. The proclaimed independence was established.
Ironside   
27 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

1)Vilnius(Wilno) had majority of Jews and poles were second in number, while surrounding towns and villages had majority of Lithuanians. Most of you either forget or conveniently omit fact that at those times only 20% of population lived in cities.

Sorry sunshine that your chauvinistic stat and you can shove them in your nationalistic ass - meaning it is not true.

When Lithuania declared independence,

No surprise here you are either ignorant or liar. Sure that Germany preferred Lithuania than Poland to be their neighbor.

the work of the Council was hindered, and Germans remained in control over Lithuania

for slow people - Independence declared in concern with Germany who controlled lands of a new independent?state - phew!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Independence_of_Lithuania

Lithuania was neutral during Polish-Soviet war. The only "help" was that it allowed transit through territories which were slowly taken over from soviets by Lith-Sov peace treaty.

Sure, some neutrality.
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hague05.asp

4)Technically UK honored her guarantee on Poland by declaring war on Germany. Guarantee was meant only against Hitler, Soviet Union was another matter.
5)Saying that Ukrainian army were the only evil force doing terrible things is inaccurate, Poland did the same.

Whatever you say mate - you already proved your credibility.
Ironside   
27 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

What did you do for your country? Raised a white flag after 3 weeks

Poland didn't surrender, and you should come out from Canadian wilderness it is not good for your mental health.

Yeah, thats right Ukrainians were soldiers in Red Army - no reason to brag.But I understand you, you have nothing else to show, you wouldn't brag about Ukrainians soldiers fighting for Hitler now? SS Schützen-Division Galizien, SS Strilećka Dywizija Hałyczyna

For the record - Ukrainians being soldiers in Read Army are mostly Ukrainians from Soviet State, soviet citizens, I have no issue with them.
On the other hand there are Ukrainians from Polish land's, and given that many of them behaved in genocidal manner I do not believe that an understanding could be achieved.

Maybe I'm influenced by Nathan.

one stubbed toe would have been too great a sacrifice for a sick ungreatfull ***** like you. Its a good job the wartime generation of Poles are dying off because they would be terminally embarresed by the whining and whinging by people who clearly know so little about the subject.

Well, luckily you don't have to rescue her/him.
As for the wartime generation depend to whom you were talking. Opinions differ, from foot soldiers to commanding generals, from soldiers operating in the west or in Poland.

You do not think that opinions about allies are generated by people nowadays ? Those often or not are being passed from generation to generation.
Ironside   
26 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

If he's going to look into other options ( counselling, mediation ) fine, but what he needs to do first is make sure he doesn't come back to an empty home one night and read a "Dear Kurt, I'm in Poland with the kids" note.

sure, but if he starts with lawyers he well may end up with divorce, and I don't know if that what he wants !
Mediation and all that could help him save his marriage.

Unlikely it is the "monies" in my case.

Never mind your are not the issue here !

In Kurt's case I don't get Your fuss over my statements.

I hope above answer your question!
Ironside   
26 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

I mean, true, I'm not married but with my current girlfriend we constantly manage to resolve various issues pertaining to property worth in excess of 600.000 pounds now ( mutual investments ).

well, maybe it is monies that hold youz together, every circumstances differ, he should seek professional help if he want to salvage his marriage and I don't talk money or lawyers.

And you concerting on property are only muddling the issue.
clear now?
Ironside   
26 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

looks at the buttons and sees Ironside trying to push them*

Where I grew up there were a plenty of ukies around, and I know what that they do not respond to push, the only way is kick them in the butt.
Ironside   
26 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Yeah and talking with one's husband is the way in which normal, not money-hungry women solve the issue.

You are obviously not married, and your opinions are unsound.
warszawski talks a lot of sense here.

Kurt - sort that out - maybe she needs help - I mean she could be in some kind of mental state which confuses her.

Worth to consider - ie if you want to keep her. Also gut feelings are not enough - look for the help of professionals .
Ironside   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

It is the policy of your country through the centuries in this region. Pick up a year, look at the region's history and you will see what I am talking about. The oppressive policies continued

You are simply a stubborn moron. Get your facts right. You are talking nonsense , the very existence Ukrainians is due to Poles ie Kingdom of Poland.

As for Lwów and Podole it is our land being part of the Crown since the middle-ages and not amount of Ukrainians living there will ever change that.

Poor victims, always oppressed, what a bull!
Ironside   
25 May 2011
History / What was it like in 1989+ in Poland when the Soviet house of cards fell? [237]

What ever became of the cretin Jerzy Urban?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Urban

What became of the commie rulers immediately after the communist collapse?

Nothing much - Jaruzelski become president - and then all went like ********** !

what was done with the big companies like Ursus and Polski Len?

That is a very good question - destroyed under the guise of so called privatization.

how was private property reassigned?

in a doggy way....you knew a right people and whoosh !

what did one have to do to reclaim land, buildings, homes, etc?

bribe a right person or wait for years for a court decision - many still reclaim their property.
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Nathan you're quoting a wiki article that you yourself edited,

Not only that .....he is that kind of guy who would spit into a somebody's tea and then accuse an innocent passerby of that !

Must be an Ukrainian trait.

I-S (waits for BB to defend Nathan)
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

So you're never going to whine again about your country getting bent-over and arse-raped for six years by the Nazis and then 45 years by the commies. Good to hear that.

O curse I will it is called legitimation. If I could do what I please I would have nuked you all slime bastards ! Helping the world - my ass !

Soviets were liberating countries - from their possessions. you do the same, you were just more cleaver about it!
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

If it was Polish before then when did it legitimately become Lithuanian?

Who cares ?
Either we taking moral rights or right of the fist - in this case Poland had upper hand !
Legitimacy is just a way of muddling the issue if you are not in position to get what you want or you think that you can do it cheaper !
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

So Lithuania didn't exist after 1791??? ;)

Nope !

Wasn't it the case that Lithuania was the largest country in Europe in the 1500's??

Theoretically, it is a complex situation, on this very forum I have posted trying to explain iot somewhat to peeps here - look for it - I have no time, my lady will kill me if I stick here longer.

As was in the spirit of sharing, stemming from the Commonwealth, Sok.

Exactly, it did not pass a test of survival. Look at the world - no changes !

You advocate that force dictates rights??

That is the reality of our damned civilization, if you want something you must be a force to be reckon with to get it!
That is the fact! Only you on the PF seems to understands which some of us were trying to explain here - Commonwealth, no offensive spirit, cultural influence - Harry doesn't get it !

Anyway is the past - never to become life again!
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

I asked you to list the treaties which were broken by the party other than Poland. Interesting that you haven't done that. Other than the two treaties broken by genocidal maniacs, you seem unable to support your claim that all countries break treaties.

The hard learned lesson from polish neighbors - if you are stronger use it to the full. Lithuania should be crushed and occupied.
Treaties are only worth a paper they were written on !
Rights ? Who is talking about the rights - the winner is right.
Westerners just like talking a lot of BS but when it comes to deeds they act the same like all the ****** world!
Poles fault is that they (at last many) actually believe in that BS!
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

So they had their own state, Poles came in as guests and then what? They tried to take over the land? So, according to your logic, Koala, Kosovo should be Albanian, is that right?

gee Sean just read some of my post on the subject !
only one point - from 1791 there was one country Rzeczposopolita -period.

It is getting tiresome ...
Antek you are an ignorant as to the facts, I'm sure you have an opinion but it doesn't count for much.
Ironside   
24 May 2011
Off-Topic / How do Polish people operate? what makes them tick? [103]

How's that a secret?

Eh?Sorry, you lost me here, care to explain what you had in mind?

Anyways, my wife travels often to Pennsylvania to her office and she posted from there on multiple occasions while I was posting from TX at the same time. I think Ms. corrupted Pgtx knows it and that's why she is Polish- Jealous because a lot of things I've said checks out. Jealous jealous...

Well, as I said I don't care either way. As for pgtx: it is her way, I'm on PF for about two years and she was that way all the time,being moderator or not, you cannot have a discussion with her, only a chat.

Why would she be jealous ?

I think the part of the problem is that sometimes I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say and i assume that you're trying to be mean to me, because most Polish are that way by default.

As I said, you started attacking everyone around like a mad dog. I have never commented on your writings here, I mean about Poles.
To be honest I couldn't care less. As for being mean to you nay, for some reason I'm not - I say what I think.

I have only one account, i don't see a point in having more. Care to explain what would this be necessary? I'm not ashamed what i say and I don't care what people think about me either on PF

As I said I don't care either way, but I think that you care what people think about you.

I think you're wrong. The majority of people on this forum are Polish, it's really obvious. There are some who are from GB, but only a few maybe 5 or 6.

Nope, majority on this forum consist from a people somehow connected to Poland or to Poles(wife,husband) but who are not Polish themselves. I'm talking about people writing regularly on PF.

Poles from Poland, living in Poland are an absolute minority on PF - 3/4. The rest (about 5) are Poles living abroad.
So, in total - from about 40/50 posters writing more or less regularly on PF - the number of Poles (B&B in Poland)on this forum is about nine.

The number would be higher if you would included peeps like you, born in Poland but living abroad most of their life's. Add two more and that is that.

Don't like Eminem for number of reasons.
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Ironside   
24 May 2011
Off-Topic / How do Polish people operate? what makes them tick? [103]

Keep it calm bud.

Hey it wasn't me, but my lady. She thinks that you are an ass-hole. I hope it is simple enough for you.

Last time you were upset and tried to talk English you asked "If you fucked me"

Upset?Last time I had my laugh at you. You sounded like a loon on crack !

I'm not sure what your point is here. Sorry.

My point: I don't care whatever you are one person with ten accounts on PF or ten people with one account.Whatever ....

I didn't have a lot of contact with Polish over the years but I wanted to see if anything changed.

So you are an idiot, because PF in reality is an American forum and number of Poles writing here regularly is about 5 or 6.
Ironside   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

so I should be anti-Ukrainian but I'm not.

And your point is ?

Yes and i believe that the Cossacks should have been hunted down and exterminated,

If possible, you must remember that Catherine II done it with much greater army than Poland could possibly muster for a needed period of time.
Ironside   
24 May 2011
Off-Topic / How do Polish people operate? what makes them tick? [103]

ItsAllAboutMe is my cute wife

Is she now?

she thinks PF is the most psychotic and most racist forums on the net

Ah? and that is the reason she is writing here, interesting.

For the record, we're not the same person,

I take your word for that, you wouldn't lie about it ,would you? being polish er.... american, whichever you can be trusted.

I'm not sure why I even bother to make any point here,

I'm not sure either, you sucks ....so far you have not been able to make a point let alone defend your position.

most of the time I just laugh

Good, its better than intoxicate yourself silly and beat up your wife or something....

so I'm not sure what has happened recently to me...

See a doctor.

Majority of Polish people have problems adjusting outside of Poland.

What make you an expert?And anyway - who cares ?By the way Polonius3 is an American, B&B.

I know you have no life

Good.

Like i said before i don't give a shit what most of you think about me.

Likewise, I didn't care what you were saying till you started attacking everyone around like a mad dog, without reason, well sane reason.

i have a really good one too.

Good, congratulation.

so go fuck yourself all you haters.

you go fuck yourself you nasty bastard why did you even bother coming onto this forum if you don't like it i hate people that do that go and order another beer you drunken ass-hole American.

{The Ironsides Lady has spoken}
Ironside   
22 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

I have to disagree, only democracy

Well, Poland was viewed as a backwoods country because of the democratic constitution while all civilized countries enjoyed absolute rules.
Today current form of democracy is seen as the most advanced, who knows what tomorrow will bring ?
Ironside   
22 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

Absolutism is most strongly associated with a primitive form of governance most strongly associated with the middle ages, as well as some of today's African and other countries.

point of view changes in time...what today is seen as modern tomorrow maybe viewed as a useless encumbrance of the past
Ironside   
22 May 2011
Off-Topic / How do Polish people operate? what makes them tick? [103]

Well, Eurola that nice you are so patriotic and loyal to your new homeland. You defy all the nasty rumours that Poles do not want to integrate. Funny though that while PennBoy was prosecuted on this very forum by the couple of Bits living in Poland, you wasn't there to defend him.

Now, you defend some guy with obvious mental problems because he says ; I'm an American . You are a loyal U.S. citizen, no need to overdue it and become a zealot!

ItsAllAboutMe - a good screen-name- all you write here is about you, your projections, prejudices and all the others p...
Would you like to have a real debate here ? What don't you listen for a change and then reflect some or maybe research, it is shame that you being from such great country display all characteristics of a close-minded backwood barn dweller.

just my two cents .....

tick-tack ?
Ironside   
22 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

Burghers"...even the word stems from Dutch/German "Bürger"....

Well, it is wiki - the word in the Polish language is mieszczanin, and was in use at the time.
Ironside   
22 May 2011
History / Poland and Orientalism [115]

Poland was an agrarian country with barely any industry and no urban middle class.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Procession
In the second part of XVIII century in Poland:
manufactures flourished,aristocratic, royal, and the bourgeois, the biggest: A complex of plants in economics Tyzenhauz Grodno (Horodnica, £osośna), weaving factory in Brody, Buczacz, Lovich, Nesvizh, Skierniewice and Warsaw Slutsk, Glass Urzeczu, Nalibokach, farfurnie at the Belvedere, and Telechanach Korzec, some of them, mainly factory magnate, in addition to wage-workers (often foreign specialists) employed serfs

Under Bismarck it was one of the most advanced and industrialized countries in Europe

After squeezing enormous contribution from France and incorporation of German states,plus incorporation of Alsace - a poor Prussian state deeply hurt after WWI.

Without Catholic Poles Germans wouldn't have felt the need to be different thus Protestantism would have never been invented.

Without Catholic Polish Kingdom non of the protestant states would come to fruition - at last it is a real possibility.
The fact is that only Polish King agreement made the tradition from the Knight Order possession into dukedom of Prussia possible, without his decision first ever protestant stated would had not been .

Ungrateful bastards !
Ironside   
22 May 2011
Po polsku / Oda do Marysi [54]

Nie wydaje mi się.

Nie ważne kim jest albo nie jest, faktem jest, że ma nierówno pod sufitem, po prostu go zignoruj.
Ironside   
22 May 2011
Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [34]

I was hoping for a stimulating discussion. Meaning:an exchange of arguments, facts and views.
It is disappointing that all you came with is a well know game of labelling. You stick some labels on me and in return I will stick some labels on you. Thank you I pass.

It would be nice if you did me courtesy of reading my post, as I did read yours - not only admiring pictures I posted.

I'm not speaking for Poles, I speak for myself. I don't deny that some Poles may viewed or view it the way you described but I'm still claiming that said similarity is only superficial.

If we talking the times of the winged hussars, they were all business like professional winners and their spirit come from countless battles which ended with their victory.

Whereas Indian's warrior spirit come from their way of life and their beliefs.