ZIMMY
24 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]
Sharia Law?
That seems to be the white elephant in the room.
Are their cultures similar enough?
Sharia Law?
That seems to be the white elephant in the room.
ZIMMY
24 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]
Neither comment was addressed to me but what do posters think about Sharia Law being established in host countries? That sort of 'diversity' is fundamentally different and is it "too great to overcome"?
People are the same all over, influenced by their environment.
which cultural differences do you find too great to overcome, polpat?
Neither comment was addressed to me but what do posters think about Sharia Law being established in host countries? That sort of 'diversity' is fundamentally different and is it "too great to overcome"?
ZIMMY
24 Jan 2014
Language / "Poles" or "Polish people" - which is better to use? [199]
I took a Polish poll and the the results were poles apart.
I took a Polish poll and the the results were poles apart.
ZIMMY
19 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / Agnieszka Pomaska, beautiful Polish politician [43]
Of course you do. Women doll up whether they are in politics or in any other work venue. It's (almost) natural judging by how automatically they seem to do it. I'm not knocking it just making an obvious observation.
As to politicians, in the U.S. it is often said that Hollywood is for beautiful people and politics is for ugly people.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Of course you do. Women doll up whether they are in politics or in any other work venue. It's (almost) natural judging by how automatically they seem to do it. I'm not knocking it just making an obvious observation.
Politicians are working in the public eye and are expected to at least try to look good.
As to politicians, in the U.S. it is often said that Hollywood is for beautiful people and politics is for ugly people.
ZIMMY
19 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / Agnieszka Pomaska, beautiful Polish politician [43]
There seems to be an odd yin-yang here. Some men spend too much time checking out women's appearances and too often women spend an equal amount of time trying to look good.
The bravest woman will be the one who doesn't apply make-up, hair color and consistently wears pants suits. :)
There seems to be an odd yin-yang here. Some men spend too much time checking out women's appearances and too often women spend an equal amount of time trying to look good.
The bravest woman will be the one who doesn't apply make-up, hair color and consistently wears pants suits. :)
ZIMMY
17 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / Agnieszka Pomaska, beautiful Polish politician [43]
As to immigrants who take advantage of Britain she wanted to mention another country but refrained to do so.
As to immigrants who take advantage of Britain she wanted to mention another country but refrained to do so.
ZIMMY
15 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]
Seems like a lot of people from £odz are blonde..........(like me, my father born near there)....so what's the best present you ever got?
Seems like a lot of people from £odz are blonde..........(like me, my father born near there)....so what's the best present you ever got?
ZIMMY
15 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Isn't that how Americans won their independence? Check out Afghanistan's history as well (along with others).
This may be the most strikingly odd comment yet. People won't defend their country because of the Geneva convention? It's illegal to invade a country too. It's also technically illegal for a government to enslave it's own people. Perhaps the Geneva convention only applies to people defending themselves?
You don't seem to know the difference between a terrorist and someone who is defending their home. Evidently, Polish partisans during WW2 were "terrorists" by your definition. Gun ownership is good for Poland in case invasions happen again - as they have so many times.
They destroyed towns that didn't resist as well. Your supine posture allows tyrants to take over countries without repercussions.
Yes, the idea that armed civilians can defend themselves against an army is pure ********.
Isn't that how Americans won their independence? Check out Afghanistan's history as well (along with others).
Its also illegal, you won't be protected under the Geneva convention
This may be the most strikingly odd comment yet. People won't defend their country because of the Geneva convention? It's illegal to invade a country too. It's also technically illegal for a government to enslave it's own people. Perhaps the Geneva convention only applies to people defending themselves?
you would become a terrorist.
You don't seem to know the difference between a terrorist and someone who is defending their home. Evidently, Polish partisans during WW2 were "terrorists" by your definition. Gun ownership is good for Poland in case invasions happen again - as they have so many times.
I read an account of a small town during the German invasion, one German soldier was shot as he entered the town. The Germans burnt down hundreds of houses and killed many.
They destroyed towns that didn't resist as well. Your supine posture allows tyrants to take over countries without repercussions.
ZIMMY
12 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Several time you brought up the gun crime rates in the U.S. Just to illustrate one example, you said, "If Poles want to live in a country with 10,000 gun-related homicides a year, they can just move to the States..".
I merely gave you fuller information which included high minority crime rates exacerbated by BigGovernment programs. If you continue to bring up U.S. gun crime rates then I will continue to give you the 'fuller truths'.
As it is there is no reason to punish law abiding gun owners who not coincidently have the lowest crime rates but that is typical of BigGovernment bureaucrat policies who do things backwards.
You rather ineffectively tried to introduce a red herring. There are no significant crime issues with minority communities in Poland.
Several time you brought up the gun crime rates in the U.S. Just to illustrate one example, you said, "If Poles want to live in a country with 10,000 gun-related homicides a year, they can just move to the States..".
I merely gave you fuller information which included high minority crime rates exacerbated by BigGovernment programs. If you continue to bring up U.S. gun crime rates then I will continue to give you the 'fuller truths'.
As it is there is no reason to punish law abiding gun owners who not coincidently have the lowest crime rates but that is typical of BigGovernment bureaucrat policies who do things backwards.
ZIMMY
12 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
I corrected a false premise with the correct answer. Crime rates in certain communities are high because of government dependency programs. So the state helps create the problem and then uses 'gun crimes' as an excuse to take away guns from law abiding citizens. Poles, because of their history should be wary of BigGovernment. Nazism and Sovietism are the logical final steps of government growth.
So you oppose resistance fighters who used guns to fight Nazis.
ZIMMY:America's anti poverty programs Have nothing to do with guns in Poland...
I corrected a false premise with the correct answer. Crime rates in certain communities are high because of government dependency programs. So the state helps create the problem and then uses 'gun crimes' as an excuse to take away guns from law abiding citizens. Poles, because of their history should be wary of BigGovernment. Nazism and Sovietism are the logical final steps of government growth.
ZIMMY: Perhaps shooting a Nazi officer would be one possibility
A suicidal one.
A suicidal one.
So you oppose resistance fighters who used guns to fight Nazis.
ZIMMY
11 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
It should be but it wasn't nor is it still. As is evidenced by the recent 50th anniversary of America's anti poverty programs. They've been a failure, one instituted by BigGovernment. As previously pointed out, such programs helped create dependency and single family households which contributed to a crime culture.
It depends. Perhaps shooting a Nazi officer would be one possibility. Perhaps allowing Nazis into the home hoping they wouldn't take your family away would be another.
The government has exacerbated conditions within minority communities
You continue to ignore the fact that non minority communities do not contribute substantially to a "high murder rate"
A total irrelevance. As you say the ław should be the same for all.
You continue to ignore the fact that non minority communities do not contribute substantially to a "high murder rate"
A total irrelevance. As you say the ław should be the same for all.
It should be but it wasn't nor is it still. As is evidenced by the recent 50th anniversary of America's anti poverty programs. They've been a failure, one instituted by BigGovernment. As previously pointed out, such programs helped create dependency and single family households which contributed to a crime culture.
Why?
If you need to ask why, then you are truly naive. That or disingenuous. I wonder what you think would have happened to someone between 1939 if they fired a gun when the knock on the door came.
If you need to ask why, then you are truly naive. That or disingenuous. I wonder what you think would have happened to someone between 1939 if they fired a gun when the knock on the door came.
It depends. Perhaps shooting a Nazi officer would be one possibility. Perhaps allowing Nazis into the home hoping they wouldn't take your family away would be another.
ZIMMY
11 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
The government has exacerbated conditions within minority communities by offering programs that created dependency. BigGovernment aided in the deterioration of the black family (73% illegitimacy rate) which contributed strongly to the 'crime culture' of young black men and women who grew up in single parent families.
You continue to ignore the fact that non minority communities do not contribute substantially to a "high murder rate". A reemphasize of priorities is needed within the high crime rate areas. The "Great Society" programs threw trillions of dollars at the problem of poverty and the end result begot a slave plantation mentality. Instead of being politely "politically correct" the emphasize should be on self responsibility instead of teething on government dependence.
Laws should be the same for everyone! BigGovernment nonsense like 'affirmative action' allows for some to be more equal than others.
Time doesn't change a fundamental premise or truth. I doubt if Poles want to forget that 20% of their population was lost during the war. Of course with lefties, facts are not only stubborn things but also inconvenient.
Why?
Zimmy:The emphasis should be on criminals who obtain guns illegally as well as on the mentally ill.
Jon: 'The emphasis' obviously isn't working very well
Jon: 'The emphasis' obviously isn't working very well
The government has exacerbated conditions within minority communities by offering programs that created dependency. BigGovernment aided in the deterioration of the black family (73% illegitimacy rate) which contributed strongly to the 'crime culture' of young black men and women who grew up in single parent families.
200 years of easy availability of guns and still you have a high murder rate.
You continue to ignore the fact that non minority communities do not contribute substantially to a "high murder rate". A reemphasize of priorities is needed within the high crime rate areas. The "Great Society" programs threw trillions of dollars at the problem of poverty and the end result begot a slave plantation mentality. Instead of being politely "politically correct" the emphasize should be on self responsibility instead of teething on government dependence.
Unless you propose different laws for 'minority communities' which as those 'minority communities' become the majority may very well rebound on you.
Laws should be the same for everyone! BigGovernment nonsense like 'affirmative action' allows for some to be more equal than others.
As was true in August 1939. The next (almost) 6 years brought about a big demand for guns
Don't make me laugh! That was a world war 70 years ago!
Don't make me laugh! That was a world war 70 years ago!
Time doesn't change a fundamental premise or truth. I doubt if Poles want to forget that 20% of their population was lost during the war. Of course with lefties, facts are not only stubborn things but also inconvenient.
And a time when a homeowner shooting at an intruder would have been a very, very bad idea.
Why?
ZIMMY
11 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Way too many. The emphasis should be on criminals who obtain guns illegally as well as on the mentally ill. Banning guns will only allow thugs who don't care about the law to possess them.
It is high in minority communities. 92% of all murders last year in Chicago were committed by Black or Hispanic gangs. Murder rates by non minorities rival those of European countries. That should give you pause for thought.
(It isn't the gun but the culture which determines behavior).
As was true in August 1939. The next (almost) 6 years brought about a big demand for guns. That's another reason why America's founders insisted that people have a right to be armed.
nd how many innocent people in your country (or just Chicago) have been shot dead?
Way too many. The emphasis should be on criminals who obtain guns illegally as well as on the mentally ill. Banning guns will only allow thugs who don't care about the law to possess them.
No accident that the murder rate is so high.
It is high in minority communities. 92% of all murders last year in Chicago were committed by Black or Hispanic gangs. Murder rates by non minorities rival those of European countries. That should give you pause for thought.
(It isn't the gun but the culture which determines behavior).
Fortunately, in Poland we don't want easily available guns and there is no significant lobby for that.
As was true in August 1939. The next (almost) 6 years brought about a big demand for guns. That's another reason why America's founders insisted that people have a right to be armed.
ZIMMY
10 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
When liberals in knee-jerk fashion immediately call someone a "racist", "homophobe", "sexist", "gun nut", etc, they act emotionally not objectively. They don't address the issue at hand. Now you point out another pin-head professor with an agenda who has a selected small sample size (" scientists at University College London who scanned the brains of two members of parliament and a number of students.")
Since I'm a long-term recovering liberal and have seen and experienced the folly of the leftist agenda, do you really want to believe that there has been some physical brain change? (there's a joke in there somewhere lol)
As a recovering "do gooder", I've realized that wanting the world to be full of rainbows, flowers and everything nice leads to naivete and harm. My many discussions with assorted lefties (commies, socialists, anarchists, feminists, etc)
has shown them to respond emotionally instead of addressing the facts. I've previously and frequently pointed that out and have shown examples. Rarely have those been addressed properly and instead lefties have appealed to emotion to make their naive points.
Many people in Chicago have saved their belongings, perhaps even their lives by scaring off a home intruder with a gun. Most have not reported such incidences because they didn't want to be hassled by prohibitive anti-gun rules.
However, it's doubtful that the home invaders would be back to the same house. That's success.
When liberals in knee-jerk fashion immediately call someone a "racist", "homophobe", "sexist", "gun nut", etc, they act emotionally not objectively. They don't address the issue at hand. Now you point out another pin-head professor with an agenda who has a selected small sample size (" scientists at University College London who scanned the brains of two members of parliament and a number of students.")
Since I'm a long-term recovering liberal and have seen and experienced the folly of the leftist agenda, do you really want to believe that there has been some physical brain change? (there's a joke in there somewhere lol)
Interesting though that you use the phrase 'do gooders' disparagingly.
As a recovering "do gooder", I've realized that wanting the world to be full of rainbows, flowers and everything nice leads to naivete and harm. My many discussions with assorted lefties (commies, socialists, anarchists, feminists, etc)
has shown them to respond emotionally instead of addressing the facts. I've previously and frequently pointed that out and have shown examples. Rarely have those been addressed properly and instead lefties have appealed to emotion to make their naive points.
Many people in Chicago have saved their belongings, perhaps even their lives by scaring off a home intruder with a gun. Most have not reported such incidences because they didn't want to be hassled by prohibitive anti-gun rules.
However, it's doubtful that the home invaders would be back to the same house. That's success.
ZIMMY
10 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
A problem with 'do-gooders' is their emphasis on emotion when making decisions. It's a kind of 'feel goodness' instead of logical thinking. Poland would do well to take this and other studies in any evaluation concerning guns.
breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/06/Professor-To-Study-Naysayers-I-Am-A-Democrat-Gun-Control-Not-Good-Public-Policy
Lefties have difficulty dealing with their cognitive dissonance. So many things which seem correct to them are actually not.
A problem with 'do-gooders' is their emphasis on emotion when making decisions. It's a kind of 'feel goodness' instead of logical thinking. Poland would do well to take this and other studies in any evaluation concerning guns.
breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/06/Professor-To-Study-Naysayers-I-Am-A-Democrat-Gun-Control-Not-Good-Public-Policy
Lefties have difficulty dealing with their cognitive dissonance. So many things which seem correct to them are actually not.
ZIMMY
1 Jan 2014
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
That explains it all.
She talks from the viewpoint of someone with leftist/liberal views.
That explains it all.
ZIMMY
1 Jan 2014
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Ah, lefties, logic plays no role in their 'feelings' about things. I'll break it down for you. Since you pointed out - "nor are crime rates in your country where guns are relatively easily available any lower than those in Poland where they are not", then owning guns makes no difference, hence why try to outlaw them?
Evidently my link to John Lott was ignored by you because he bases his information on facts and empirical experience instead of rhetoric.
You also ignored gun crimes in urban areas which have the strictest gun control laws which I pointed out in my previous post. So it is ironic that states with 'conceal and carry' laws have the lowest crime rates while cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest gun crime rates. To liberals this is perplexing because they base their beliefs on emotion and feelings instead of concrete facts.
Not in 'conceal and carry' states but yes, much more common in minority populated urban areas. It isn't guns but culture that is the difference. Perhaps that sort of information doesn't penetrate the agenda-ridden leftist mindset.
Hardly.Despite all your homeowners being able to protect themselves, crime rates are higher where you are.
Ah, lefties, logic plays no role in their 'feelings' about things. I'll break it down for you. Since you pointed out - "nor are crime rates in your country where guns are relatively easily available any lower than those in Poland where they are not", then owning guns makes no difference, hence why try to outlaw them?
Evidently my link to John Lott was ignored by you because he bases his information on facts and empirical experience instead of rhetoric.
You also ignored gun crimes in urban areas which have the strictest gun control laws which I pointed out in my previous post. So it is ironic that states with 'conceal and carry' laws have the lowest crime rates while cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest gun crime rates. To liberals this is perplexing because they base their beliefs on emotion and feelings instead of concrete facts.
And gun crimes are very, very, common.
Not in 'conceal and carry' states but yes, much more common in minority populated urban areas. It isn't guns but culture that is the difference. Perhaps that sort of information doesn't penetrate the agenda-ridden leftist mindset.
ZIMMY
31 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
This reminds me of " A Tale of Two Cities" in more ways than one. If you take away the murder rates of minority groups than the U.S. is very much like your supposed other developed countries. Sad to say but minority crime which includes Blacks, Hispanics and some Asians account for 80+ percent of murders particularly in urban settings. Guns are an instrument of that violence even though urban areas like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Detroit, etc have the most strict gun control ordinances. Interesting that the highest gun deaths occur in areas that attempt to prohibit gun ownership yet "conceal and carry" states have the lowest. Take away guns from legal gun owners and you'll still have thugs who don't care about laws killing people.
Additionally, those without access to guns kill others or themselves through other means. Your study seems to ignore that. It's noticeable that the eggheads who did your study ignored suicide by guns "The New England Journal of Medicine" notes that "firearms were used to kill 30,143 people in the United States in 2005, the most recent year with complete data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.1 A total of 17,002 of these were suicides, 12,352 homicides, and 789 accidental firearm deaths." So suicides play a big role in gun use. You might want to read John Lott's interview:
press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html
U.S. Has More Guns - And Gun Deaths - Than Any Other Country, Study Finds
This reminds me of " A Tale of Two Cities" in more ways than one. If you take away the murder rates of minority groups than the U.S. is very much like your supposed other developed countries. Sad to say but minority crime which includes Blacks, Hispanics and some Asians account for 80+ percent of murders particularly in urban settings. Guns are an instrument of that violence even though urban areas like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Detroit, etc have the most strict gun control ordinances. Interesting that the highest gun deaths occur in areas that attempt to prohibit gun ownership yet "conceal and carry" states have the lowest. Take away guns from legal gun owners and you'll still have thugs who don't care about laws killing people.
Additionally, those without access to guns kill others or themselves through other means. Your study seems to ignore that. It's noticeable that the eggheads who did your study ignored suicide by guns "The New England Journal of Medicine" notes that "firearms were used to kill 30,143 people in the United States in 2005, the most recent year with complete data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.1 A total of 17,002 of these were suicides, 12,352 homicides, and 789 accidental firearm deaths." So suicides play a big role in gun use. You might want to read John Lott's interview:
press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html
ZIMMY
31 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Heh,heh,heh, you just refuted your case for gun control. Reread your comment and figure it out.
Nor are crime rates in your country where guns are relatively easily available any lower than those in Poland where they are not.
Heh,heh,heh, you just refuted your case for gun control. Reread your comment and figure it out.
ZIMMY
31 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
I laughed at the silliness of the sign, "Real men use fists". If a couple of thugs were breaking into your home, I suspect you'd rather point a gun at them instead of your fists. Of course I can picture some naive lefties shouting, "I've got my dukes up so you'd better flee." The mental naivette of BigGovernment gun control advocates makes one wonder how such docile people could survive in a "Mad Max" world.
I laughed at the silliness of the sign, "Real men use fists". If a couple of thugs were breaking into your home, I suspect you'd rather point a gun at them instead of your fists. Of course I can picture some naive lefties shouting, "I've got my dukes up so you'd better flee." The mental naivette of BigGovernment gun control advocates makes one wonder how such docile people could survive in a "Mad Max" world.
ZIMMY
29 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
You intentionally ignored the rest of my statement. "I've previously pointed out to you (evidently it didn't take) that guns are made for hunting, sporting such as target practice, defense of home and if need be to be used against tyranny. People prefer guns to "bows and arrows". So what! People prefer many things over others. Besides, it's easier to defend oneself with a gun.
ZIMMY:I've previously pointed out to you (evidently it didn't take) that guns are made for hunting, sporting such as target practice,
So are bows and arrows for that matter - yet the gun shops in countries where they exist - tend to stock the most lethal.
So are bows and arrows for that matter - yet the gun shops in countries where they exist - tend to stock the most lethal.
You intentionally ignored the rest of my statement. "I've previously pointed out to you (evidently it didn't take) that guns are made for hunting, sporting such as target practice, defense of home and if need be to be used against tyranny. People prefer guns to "bows and arrows". So what! People prefer many things over others. Besides, it's easier to defend oneself with a gun.
ZIMMY
29 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
I've previously pointed out to you (evidently it didn't take) that guns are made for hunting, sporting such as target practice, defense of home and if need be to be used against tyranny. Like any other object they can be abused by those who should not own them. Inanimate objects are just that. It is people who misuse them whether its a ceramic piece, bleach or an automobile. Therefore, it is logical to understand that the problem lies deeper. It lies within people.
Recently, when a woman hit her husband with a chair he didn't blame the chair. The chair wasn't charged with aggravated assault and domestic violence. Banning an object does nothing to address the real problem.
I've previously pointed out to you (evidently it didn't take) that guns are made for hunting, sporting such as target practice, defense of home and if need be to be used against tyranny. Like any other object they can be abused by those who should not own them. Inanimate objects are just that. It is people who misuse them whether its a ceramic piece, bleach or an automobile. Therefore, it is logical to understand that the problem lies deeper. It lies within people.
Recently, when a woman hit her husband with a chair he didn't blame the chair. The chair wasn't charged with aggravated assault and domestic violence. Banning an object does nothing to address the real problem.
ZIMMY
29 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Okay, this will be my last example of how products are misused. There are so many instances of people using items other than guns to seek revenge that the list is seemingly endless. Lets ban bleach.......
Okay, this will be my last example of how products are misused. There are so many instances of people using items other than guns to seek revenge that the list is seemingly endless. Lets ban bleach.......
ZIMMY
29 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
That sounds reasonable except for the "I don't think it's a big government thing. "Confiscating guns from law abinding citizens is very much a BigGovernment thing. As a reminder, that's what Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc, did and that's one of the first things all dictators do. (is there any wonder why?)
As I pointed out in a previous post; "The big picture is that anything can be abused and misused. Autos, knives, even pane glass windows, etc. Repressive measures are not the answer except for those who prefer to live in enslavement." we cannot confiscate objects because some lefties have an erroneous emotional agenda that is illogical.
Hey, let's ban ceramic objects....
That sounds reasonable except for the "I don't think it's a big government thing. "Confiscating guns from law abinding citizens is very much a BigGovernment thing. As a reminder, that's what Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc, did and that's one of the first things all dictators do. (is there any wonder why?)
As I pointed out in a previous post; "The big picture is that anything can be abused and misused. Autos, knives, even pane glass windows, etc. Repressive measures are not the answer except for those who prefer to live in enslavement." we cannot confiscate objects because some lefties have an erroneous emotional agenda that is illogical.
Hey, let's ban ceramic objects....
ZIMMY
27 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
I legally own guns and have no intention of doing what you imply gun owners do. I enjoy target practice and occasional hunting. Your repressive BigGovernment measures would take that freedom away from me. Additionally, my home guns can be used for family protection. You would take that away from me as well.
The big picture is that anything can be abused and misused. Autos, knives, even pane glass windows, etc. Repressive measures are not the answer except for those who prefer to live in enslavement.
I legally own guns and have no intention of doing what you imply gun owners do. I enjoy target practice and occasional hunting. Your repressive BigGovernment measures would take that freedom away from me. Additionally, my home guns can be used for family protection. You would take that away from me as well.
The big picture is that anything can be abused and misused. Autos, knives, even pane glass windows, etc. Repressive measures are not the answer except for those who prefer to live in enslavement.
ZIMMY
27 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Reread my comments about banning knives, cars and prescription drugs and you'll have your answer. Try not to block it out.
Ban knives and iPhones tool.......
breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/12/26/Teen-Arrested-For-Pulling-Knife-on-Dad-After-Not-Getting-iPhone-for-Xmas
Mixing the two is too dangerous.
The misuse of items and services is endless. Sandwich shops are too tempting .....
seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/12/24/man-arrested-for-humping-sandwich-shop-window
We must continue to restrict anything that can be misused and abused.
And what about all those steps in between?
Reread my comments about banning knives, cars and prescription drugs and you'll have your answer. Try not to block it out.
Ban knives and iPhones tool.......
breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/12/26/Teen-Arrested-For-Pulling-Knife-on-Dad-After-Not-Getting-iPhone-for-Xmas
Mixing the two is too dangerous.
The misuse of items and services is endless. Sandwich shops are too tempting .....
seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/12/24/man-arrested-for-humping-sandwich-shop-window
We must continue to restrict anything that can be misused and abused.
ZIMMY
27 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Ironside is right when he notes "Reductio ad absurdum" A nuclear bomb indeed.
I'll use your attempt at logic jon. Knives are used to kill people. Let's do away with them including those used in the kitchen which have been used as weapons. Automobiles are involved in many deaths, by sober and by drunk drivers. Must get rid of them. Recently, a woman used prescription drugs to murder her husband, must do away with them.
Legal gun owners have, by far, the lowest gun crime rate. In fact, many lives are saved by use of guns in home invasions and in the street attacks. Thugs and illegal gun owners must not dictate irresponsible gun control laws to society.
given that a gun is a dangerous weapon. Hej, who's to deny me having a nuclear bomb?
If you allow access one sort of deadly weapon, where do you stop.
Ironside is right when he notes "Reductio ad absurdum" A nuclear bomb indeed.
I'll use your attempt at logic jon. Knives are used to kill people. Let's do away with them including those used in the kitchen which have been used as weapons. Automobiles are involved in many deaths, by sober and by drunk drivers. Must get rid of them. Recently, a woman used prescription drugs to murder her husband, must do away with them.
Legal gun owners have, by far, the lowest gun crime rate. In fact, many lives are saved by use of guns in home invasions and in the street attacks. Thugs and illegal gun owners must not dictate irresponsible gun control laws to society.
ZIMMY
26 Dec 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Maybe this woman needs to go to a gun range but nevertheless she did okay.....
townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2013/08/17/woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-6-robbers-in-houston-n1667028
Maybe this woman needs to go to a gun range but nevertheless she did okay.....
townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2013/08/17/woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-6-robbers-in-houston-n1667028
ZIMMY
13 Nov 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
Mass shootings almost always occur in "no gun" zones where the perp takes advantage of unarmed citizens. Deaths are less than 1/2 of 1 percent of all gun murder victims and half the time the killer possesses illegal weapons. Indeed, some 90%+ of all murders are done by perps who are barred from owning them. That's one reason why honest citizens should arm themselves.
Mass shootings almost always occur in "no gun" zones where the perp takes advantage of unarmed citizens. Deaths are less than 1/2 of 1 percent of all gun murder victims and half the time the killer possesses illegal weapons. Indeed, some 90%+ of all murders are done by perps who are barred from owning them. That's one reason why honest citizens should arm themselves.
ZIMMY
13 Nov 2013
Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2558]
The U.S. has millions of legal gun owners and it is very rare to hear of a gun incident involving them.
People are responsible for their (own) suicides. They commit them in a variety of ways.
Well, that's true for anything. If someone stole your car and proceeded to run a pedestrian over then you would be for banning automobiles, right?
Can you be more specific? I've been to 4 Tea Party gatherings and the only nuts I saw were a small group pretending to be Tea Party people. They hoisted phony signs but were escorted out after it was realized they were lefties attempting to embarrass the rally.
Tea Party people picked up their garbage and left the place(s) cleaner then when they arrived.
a) Yes they do.
The U.S. has millions of legal gun owners and it is very rare to hear of a gun incident involving them.
b) They also shoot themselves.
People are responsible for their (own) suicides. They commit them in a variety of ways.
c) Their guns can be used by persons who are not law-abiding citizens
Well, that's true for anything. If someone stole your car and proceeded to run a pedestrian over then you would be for banning automobiles, right?
you believe in the tea party nutters.
Can you be more specific? I've been to 4 Tea Party gatherings and the only nuts I saw were a small group pretending to be Tea Party people. They hoisted phony signs but were escorted out after it was realized they were lefties attempting to embarrass the rally.
Tea Party people picked up their garbage and left the place(s) cleaner then when they arrived.