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sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

So, even if you consider the Soviet military operations of September 1939 against
Poland to be a war

Don't you? If not what are you saying the battle of Grodno was? And of the 300 or so defenders executed by the Soviets is not a war crime as no war was declared?

The British and French Governments formally declared war on Germany on 3 September but when exactly did Poland formally declare war on Germany?

I have reinstated your moved post back to #86. I found a small piece of it on another site it but did not break PF's rules as I first thought. My mistake and apologies.

Thank you ;-)
sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

even though it wasn't declared by the Germany. Polish government officialy
recognized the state of war between Poland and Germany

Ha! So in your view if the victim of an aggressor recognises a state of war exists but not the aggressor only then a war crime can be officially committed! No wonder no Poles wanted war crimes tribunals instigated against the Soviet Union after the non-war with USSR.

You are seriously expecting anyone to believe that there was no war against Poland by USSR? I wonder what Gen. Anders would have thought of that when he was leading his cavalry against the Red Army... you would call it merely military exercises no doubt!!!

I have reinstated your moved post back to #86. I found a small piece of it on another site it but did not break PF's rules as I first thought. My mistake and apologies.
sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

From Moscow state archives Katyń execution document dated March 5th, 1940:

'... The POWs, the officers and the policemen in the camps are trying to continue counter-revolutionary activities. Every one of them is only waiting to be freed in order to take an active role in the struggle against Soviet power.

In the Western districts of the Ukraine and Belorussia operatives of the NKVD have uncovered a number of insurrectionary organisations. Former officers of the former Polish Army, former policemen and gendarmes have been playing a leading role in these organisations.

Amongst the detained deserters and other persons who have violated state borders a considerable number of people have been discovered who are members of counter- revolutionary espionage and insurrectionary organisations...'

Why were they involved in 'insurrectionary organisations' when Poland was at peace with the USSR during and after 1939?

There was never really a formal war

There was never really a formal war between Poland and Nazi Germany in 1939 either was there? But still a war was certainly waged nonetheless if I am not mistaken? Ha!

So maybe the Germans were also not guilty of any war crimes having not declared war on Poland is that what your are implying?
sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

whilst there was no state of war between Poland and Soviet Union in April 1940,

And the war with Soviet Union that started with the Red Army's invasion of Poland on 17 September 1939 ended precisely when? The peace treaty was signed when exactly and by whom exactly? No of course Anders was not wounded fighting the war against the Soviets in 1939 as war was not declared and he was so anti-Soviet because he didn't hear about the Polish-Soviet peace treaty of 1940?

to consider it a genocide?

Again, I await with interest the presentation of your evidence that shows the executions we now generically refer to as Katyń were genocide? Show me the documents and I will look forward to comparing your evidence against the original Russian documents that give the reasons for recommending these executions by the NKVD. Ha!

Ethnicity doesn't have to play a part.

I didn't say it did. It was held by a previous poster that those killed at Katyń were killed because the were Poles, when this was not the reason at all. The victims were murdered because they represented a potential future threat to the imposition of communist control, and that they were nearly all Poles was totally irrelevant to the NKVD.
sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

according to most definitions targetting a specific group based on its nationality is genocide?

According to the actual NKVD document(s) ordering the execution of those we include under generic term 'Katyń' ethnicity played no part at all — the NKVD perceived threat against the imposition of Soviet communist control in Eastern Poland by those groups listed in the documents was the motivating factor. This is factual evidence from the NKVD documents. That they were mainly Poles in this specific case was of no importance to the NKVD as the policy of eliminating potential anti-communist threats was enacted ruthlessly in all Soviet controlled regions—before WWII, during WWII, and post WWII.

No one at any points spoke of genocide against all Poles,

Precisely.
sjam   
22 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

Surely even you must know that September campaign ended long time before April 1940

Ha! I guess using the same nonsensical terms of your argument the war in Poland against the Nazis also ended with the September campaign!!

Where is your real evidence that a genocidial camapign against all Poles was perpetrated by Soviet Union? The Katyń crimes and the much larger criminal deportations does not provide evidence of this unless you are trying to argue that the percentage of total population of Eastern Poland included in these two crimes equate to the majority of the population from Esatern Poland? If this were the case then this would be genocide.

I await your evidence with interest!

I would love to see the document

Maybe the moderator who deleted my translation can reinstate it for you!
sjam   
21 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

Surely even you must know this? 17 September 1939 Red Army invades Poland, thousands lof Polish POWs deported in USSR. NKVD repression continues in Eastern Poland leading to the deoportations of some estimated 1.7 million Polish citizens to Soviet settlements, POW camps and slave labour camps up until 1941. What war you ask? What war indeed!

but it was still a genocide.

If you say so and who am I to disagree and I do not feel the need to argue the point further when the documents are emphatic ;-)
sjam   
21 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

The victims of Katyn were murdered only because of their
ethnicity, so it was clearly a genocide.

Not at all.

I recently posted an English translation (not available on the internet) from the original Soviet document (as supplied from Moscow state archives and notarised as an authentic copy taken from the originals) which was subsequently deleted by the PF moderators for reasons best known to whomever deleted my post but which unequivically showed that those prisoners from Poland, Ukraine, and Belorussia were recommended to be executed were considered 'enemies' of the people, members of anti-soviet organisations, etc and not because they were ethnic Poles. FYI the recommendation for execution came from NKVD to Stalin not Stalin to the NKVD. Stalin did not initiate the executions but certainly did not disagree with the NKVD execution request and signed the paperwork along with Molotov and others.

I think Seanus was the only person who got to read it before it was removed but I am certainly not going to waste my time re-typing and re-posting it to have it deleted again.
sjam   
13 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

Below a translation (Note to Moderators: it is not online) of the 1940 Katyń document signing the death warrant for the execution 27,500 mainly Poles considered counter-revolutionary and being enemies of Soviet power.

IMO this document clearly demonstrates that the killings were not part of a genocidal policy against Poles—as not all Poles were thus executed or deported from Eastern Poland.

An interesting adjunct to the Katyń story and what the Allies knew or did not know.

In the USA, a secret document (no. RA No. 35221) dated 15 March 1946 by the Department of State Office of Research and Intelligence (a foreunner of CIA) entitled: General Anders' Polish Second Corps as a Source of International Misunderstanding it states on page 9:

'In April , the Germans skillfully injected into inter-Allied relations the story of the 10,000 murdered Polish Officers in the Katyn Forest. The overwhelming majority of Poles in the Middle East believed the story"

The question is, in March 1946 did the US Department of State Office of Research and Intelligence really believe the Germans were responsible? Or were they trying to convince the President that the Soviets did not murder the Polish officers knowing full well that the Soviets were responsible? If so to what end? Was the ORI infiltrated by the Soviet intelligence?

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Memorandum from the Head of the NKVD of the USSR L.Beria for Stalin (March 1940)
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USSR
People’s Commissariat Top Secret
For Internal Affairs 5 iii 1940
March 1940
No. 794/5
Moscow

Committee Of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolshevik)

To Comrade Stalin


At the present time a great number of former officers of the Polish Army, former employees of the Polish police and intelligence services, members of Polish nationalist (counter-revolutionary) parties, members of declared (counter-revolutionary) insurgent organisations, fugitives and others are being held in NKVD POW camps in the USSR and in prisons in the western districts of the Ukraine and Belorussia. They are all fervent enemies of Soviet power and filled with hatred for the Soviet system.

The POWs, the officers and the policemen in the camps are trying to continue counter-revolutionary activities. Every one of them is only waiting to be freed in order to take an active role in the struggle against Soviet power.

In the Western districts of the Ukraine and Belorussia operatives of the NKVD have uncovered a number of insurrectionary organisations. Former officers of the former Polish Army, former policemen and gendarmes have been playing a leading role in these organisations.

Amongst the detained deserters and other persons who have violated state borders a considerable number of people have been discovered who are members of counter- revolutionary espionage and insurrectionary organisations.

Altogether 14,736 former officers, civil servants, landowners, policemen, gendarmes, prison guards, settlers and intelligence agents (not counting private soldiers and NCOs), over 97% of them Polish, are being held in the POW camps.

They include:
Generals, colonels and lieutenant colonels - 295
Majors and captains - 2,080
Lieutenants, second lieutenants and officer cadets - 6,049
Officers and junior leaders in the police, frontier guards
and gendarmerie - 1,030
Policemen, gendarmes, prison guards and intelligence agents - 5,138
Civil servants, landowners, Roman Catholic priests and
military settlers - 144

Altogether 18,632 people (including 10,685 Poles) are being held in prisons in the western districts of the Ukraine and Belorussia.

They include:
Former officers - 1,207
Former policemen, intelligence agents and gendarmes - 5,141
Spies and saboteurs - 347
Former landowners, factory owners and civil servants - 465
Members of various counter-revolutionary and insurrectionary organisations
and various counter-revolutionary elements - 5,345
Deserters - 6,127

Taking into account that they are all hardened opponents of Soviet power showing no signs of changing, the NKVD of the USSR considers it essential to:

I. Recommend to the NKVD of the USSR:

1). That the cases of the 14,700 people held in POW camps, the former Polish officers, civil servants, landowners, policemen, intelligence officers, gendarmes, settlers and prison guards,

2). As well as the cases of all those 11,000 people held in prisons in western Ukraine and Belorussia, members of various counter-revolutionary, espionage and sabotage organisations, former landowners, factory owners, former Polish officers, civil servants and deserters

— be reviewed as a matter of urgency and that the supreme penalty—death by shooting—be imposed.

II. That the cases be reviewed, without calling the accused, without presenting accusations, or the decisions to end interrogations or guilty verdicts for the following:

(a) those held in POW camps based on the information provided by the NKVD Committee for POW Affairs of the USSR.

(b) those held based on information provided by the NKVD of the Ukrainian SSR and the Belorussian SSR.

III. To empower a three-person panel composed of comrades (NN crossed out by hand), Merkulov Kabulov [?] (added by hand), and Bashtakov (Head of the NKVD of the USSR 1st Special Department).

The People’s Commissar
For Internal Affairs of the USSR

(signature)

L. Beria
P13/144
5 iii 1940

Handwritten
For action
(signature: Beria)

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Diagonally across the page are Stalin’s, Voroshilov’s, Molotov’s and Mikoyan’s signatures. In the margin of the official document are Comrade Kalinin’s and Comrade Kaganovich’s signatures.

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sjam   
6 Jul 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Crosses of Auschwitz: Nationalism and Religion in Post-Communist Poland
Author: Genevieve Zubrzycki
ISBN: 9780226993041

Excerpts of Chapter One from Bookdaily.com

...Every nation has its myth of foundation: its linked plots of growth and development, crisis and resistance, doom, victory, and rebirth. These myths change over time, with the times, but always remain, their origins occluded; it is in that sense, and only that sense, that they are timeless. The most common and pervasive Polish myth is that of Poland's intrinsic Catholicity: Polonia semper fidelis (Poland always faithful), the bulwark of Christendom defending Europe against the infidel (however defined); the Christ of nations, martyred for the sins of the world, resurrected for the world's salvation; a nation whose identity is conserved and guarded by its defender, the Roman Catholic Church, and shielded by its Queen, the miraculous Black Madonna, Our Lady of Czestochowa; a nation that has given the world a pope and rid the Western world of Communism ...

...I analyze the formation and transformation of Polish national identity and nationalism, and investigate the construction of the association between Polishness and Roman Catholicism, too often taken for granted. Before undertaking an anatomy of the War of the Crosses and its multiple layers, we must know something of its constituent parts: the making of the cross as a dominant symbol and martyrdom as a core narrative, the representation of Jews as "Other," and Catholicism as a key element of Polish identity.

Below: University of Chicago Press synopsis of Crosses of Auschwitz: Nationalism and Religion in Post-Communist Poland.[/url]

In the summer and fall of 1998, ultranationalist Polish Catholics erected hundreds of crosses outside Auschwitz, setting off a fierce debate that pitted Catholics and Jews against one another. While this controversy had ramifications that extended well beyond Poland's borders, Geneviève Zubrzycki sees it as a particularly crucial moment in the development of post-Communist Poland's statehood and its changing relationship to Catholicism.

In The Crosses of Auschwitz, Zubrzycki skillfully demonstrates how this episode crystallized latent social conflicts regarding the significance of Catholicism in defining "Polishness" and the role of anti-Semitism in the construction of a new Polish identity. Since the fall of Communism, the binding that has held Polish identity and Catholicism together has begun to erode, creating unease among ultranationalists. Within their construction of Polish identity also exists pride in the Polish people's long history of suffering. For the ultranationalists, then, the crosses at Auschwitz were not only symbols of their ethno-Catholic vision, but also an attempt to lay claim to what they perceived was a Jewish monopoly over martyrdom.

press.uchicago.edu/presssite/metadata.epl?mode=synopsis&bookkey=184952

The Crosses of Auschwitz received the ASA's Distinguished Book Award in the Sociology of Religion, and the Orbis Books Prize, awarded annually by the American Association for the Advancement of Slavic Studies to "the best book in any discipline, on any aspect of Polish affairs."
sjam   
12 Jun 2009
History / Communism fell 20 years ago, Poland led the fight since WW2 [339]

The martial law was implemented by Poles against other Poles. Soviet troops didn`t participate in it.

Did any Polish troops mutiny against the regime at this time or did they all just follow orders supporting General Jaruzelski and martial law?
sjam   
11 Jun 2009
History / Communism fell 20 years ago, Poland led the fight since WW2 [339]

It is a very painful issue because they were all Polish.

I asked because if the the Polish secret Police and Polish army (and other organisations of repression in communist Poland) were predominantly, or soley, Polish manned rather than Soviet manned then could this period considered a "civil war" as SeanBM has also just mentioned?

I am newly interested in the relationship of the events of the 1980's "civil war", if it can be described as such, and the "civil war" in Poland as discussed in Anita Prazmowska's impressively researched and reasoned book; Civil War in Poland, 1942-1948 (ISBN-13: 978-0333982129. Palgrave Macmillan—2004) which I have just finished reading.
sjam   
11 Jun 2009
History / Communism fell 20 years ago, Poland led the fight since WW2 [339]

shocking brutality of the communist regime who fought against its own peoples and was ready to kill in order to defend socialism.

Was anyone ever tired or prosecuted for the massacre in Wujek mine?

General Jaruzelski, backed by the communist regular police, secret police, the army and party leaders and members,

Did these repressive organisations, especially the the army and secret police of the time, consist of Poles or Soviets?
sjam   
8 Jun 2009
Genealogy / Does anyone have any relatives who served with 1st Polish Armoured Division (Gen. Maczek) [310]

Do you know what kind of proof they require.

The MoD will only release service records to a next of kin. So you will need a) proof of grandfather's death (death certificate) and b) that you are his direct next of kin.

The MoD will send you a "Certificate of Kinship" form which you have to complete and send along with the documentary proof you are your grandfather's next of kin. If your grandmother is alive for instance, the law is that MoD would only release this information to her and not you. There is a fee of £25.00 also.

You can download the "Certificate of Kinship form from here:
veterans-uk.info/pdfs/service_records/raf_kinship.pdf

Contact address for Polish service records (don't worry that it has RAF in the address; all Polish service records are archived here) at MoD:

APC Polish Enquiries,
Building 28B,
RAF Northolt,
West End Road,
Ruislip,
HA4 6NG,
Tel: 0208 833 8603
Fax: 0208 833 8866

e-mail: polishastdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk or polishdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk

The Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum in London:
The Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum, 20 Princes Gate, London SW7 1PT, Great Britain.
Telephone: +44 (0)20 7589 9249

The Sikorski holds all the unit records of the Polish Forces of the West including the listings of service men and women, but you would need to know what unit your grandfather served with as these records are all paper documents not a searchable database. They don't have email so you need to write or phone. The head of the archives at the Sikorski is Mr Andrzej Suchcitz. As the insitute is manned by volunteers (mainly Polish forces veterans) replies can take some time but they will reply.
sjam   
5 Jun 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of Polish descent or language.... Be merciless. Be brutal.

Anybody know where the original German language speech document (or recording) of this often quoted section of Hitler's August 22, 1939 speech is archived?

The earliest reference I can find is in "Poland under Nazi Occupation" by Janusz Gumkowski and Kazimierz Leszczynski 1961 by Polonia Pub. House (Warszawa) but I don't have a copy to see if this speech is correctly identified in a German archive by the authors.
sjam   
20 May 2009
Genealogy / Is there a list of names of who was in Poland's Anders army? [34]

Hi,does anyone know if there is a list of soldiers who went into Anders army

If they enlisted from USSR then you could try:

The KARTA Center database search link below:

indeks.karta.org.pl/wyszukiwanie.asp

If you know which unit of Anders Army then try contacting the Sikorski Institute in London as they hold all of the Polish Army archives for military units and these often contain the names of serving soldiers within each regiment or unit. The Sikorski Inst. doesn't have email so its pen to paper. As the institute is staffed by voluteers (mainly Polish veterans) then it takes a while to get an answer.

Good luck with your research ;-))
sjam   
24 Apr 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

Rather than stealing a machine, I believe Polish cryptographers built replicas of the German Enigma machine based on their decoding material and using information given to them by the French. The Polish cryptographers did what was thought to be impossible and built two copies of the German Enigma machine and gave one to the French and the other to the British at the begining of WWII and they also handed over the details of the Cyclometers, Bombas and Zygalski sheets. I have seen one of these original Polish built Enigma encoding machines in the museum collection of the Sikroski Institute in London.

In 2000 Britain gave the Polish government an Enigma machine in belated recognition of the importance of the work of Polish cryptographers and their vital role in WWII. Also 43% of all intelligence reports received by Britain regarding Europe during WWII came from the Polish Intelligence Bureau.
sjam   
8 Apr 2009
History / Why will Poland always be the puppet of America? [159]

American politics are a lot simpler to follow.

Polish politics are just as simple. There are only the communists but since they are all in disguise things look more complicated than they are to 1jola :-))
sjam   
6 Mar 2009
History / Polish-German alliance. [489]

Airlift to Warsaw: The Rising of 1944: Neil D. Orpen: is an excellent book written by a South African pilot in the RAF who took part in the flights to Warsaw (along with British and Polish pilots) and that describes in detail the RAF flights to Warsaw. It was never going to be enough to change the outcome of the Rising given the challenges of flying thousands of miles over German lines from Italy without substantial Soviet support—which was never forthcoming.
sjam   
6 Mar 2009
History / Polish-German alliance. [489]

The Polish troops in London begged the UK generals to be parachuted close to warsaw so they could help the warsaw uprising but UK lot refused so as not to upset Stalin.

And yet on august 3rd 1944 when General Stanisław Kopański sent General Anders a telegram to ask that a parachute unit be dispatched to emabattled Warsaw he repiled that he thought the decision of the Commander in Chief of the Underground Army to launch an uprising to be a complete disaster. (source IPMS. KGA 46/IV, telegram dated 03.August.1944)

On 9th of August General Anders sent a coded message to Gen. Sosnkowski, and in sharp terms criticised Warsaw's decision to launch the uprising. (source IPMS. KGA 46/IV; M.Zarzycki—Karta no.42 dated 2004 page 140).

Anderes also pointed out in radiogram No. 2081 dated 09/August/1944 "...the troops do not understand the aim of the Uprising in Warsaw... We consider the launching of the uprising to be a serious offence and we ask —who bears responsibilty for this?"

Gen. Sosnkowski had also earlier sent clear instructions to the Commander in Chief of the Underground Army in Warsaw forbidding a Rising, but this order was ignored in Warsaw.

So even Polish policy towards the uprising was not entirely as clear cut as sometimes presented. Maybe this should be another thread?
sjam   
5 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

but in the US, Israel where people have the Schindler view of Polish history,

They also have Polanski's Oscar winning 'The Pianist' which shows equally the Jewish Police actions in the Ghetto (but also one that helped Szpilman escape the Umschlagplatz) and the Poles help to Szpilman contrasted by the Pole who stole money from others that were trying to help Szpilman, it also portrayed German oficer who could have shot Szpilman but did not and chose to help him. It also shows the Polish blackmailers.

So you might think US and Israel has just a 'Schindler view' but this is just your generalistion and opinion but doesn't mean it is applicable in reality.

It might be a fact to you, but when you start to give those facts you are immediately called an anti-Semite.

Facts are not smears, but they are being used as smears,

Sorry, but if that is your position then in fairness one could equally state that you have been using the facts of Jewish Police, or the 13's et alii to smear the Polish Jews.

Fair enough. Facts are not smears, but they are being used as smears, primaly by Jews outside Poland.

You say it is fair now despite having previoulsy called me anti-Polish for stating what you now say is fair enough? So I will accept your agreement that I was being fair all along ;-))
sjam   
5 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

I would make repeated posts how your parents tried to abandon you at the age of seven.

Feel free as I don't have any issues regarding possible abandonment by my parents. They could easily have placed me in boarding school without asking my opinion, and this would have been the easier option, because my father who was deported to Germany as a young teenager missed out on his education so he was concerned that travelling around with frequent disruptions to his children's education would have put us at a disadvantage in later life, as it had been for him. But as it turned out he need not have worried as I was given the very best education at numerous Embassy schools and had also a great time enjoying the world.

smearing everything Polish

BTW. I don't consider pointing out instances of Polish antisemitism or collaboration with the Nazis as smearing Poland; these are facts not smears. Just as some Polish Jews collaborated with the Nazis is also fact. I recognise both as part of Polish history whereas you do not.
sjam   
5 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

Son, we're going on a hippy tour around the world.

Actually, my late father, a Pole, was busy killing communist insurgents in numerous covert British military operations during these world tours—and he was very good at this job ;-))) And he certainly had some pretty wild experiences.
sjam   
5 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

Did your parents give you the choice of residence when you were a child, genius?

Well actually yes! At aged seven I was given the choice to go to an English boarding school or travel the world with them. I chose to travel and it proved the best choice as I spent these most enjoyable years in East Africa, North Africa and the Middle East.
sjam   
5 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

You would make a great citizen of the Soviet Union.

From someone that proved such a lousy citzen of their own country—by abandonning it for the 'free' west thus leaving Poland to its fate—now that is pretty funny :-)))
sjam   
3 Mar 2009
History / Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto? [582]

Reuters: March 1, 2009

Poland formally asked the European Union for help in maintaining the former Nazi death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk wrote a letter to leaders of fellow E.U. member states asking for the creation of a special fund to help carry out much-needed repair and restoration at the camp, Polish media said.

"Saving Auschwitz-Birkenau means saving the memory of millions who suffered and were bestially murdered," Reuters reported Tusk as saying. "It is the responsibility and duty of entire Europe."

The letter was dated Feb. 10 but not made public until now, according to Reuters.
sjam   
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

Having said that, it wasn't yet a bargaining tool at Tehran or Yalta.

The period in question is really much later from mid-1945 to 1946/7 and before the British plan to demobilise Polish Forces via Polish Resettlement Corps. According historian to Dr. Józef Garlińksi there was apparently a widely used saying amongst Polish 2nd Corps along the lines of "Give us one atom bomb and we could again return to Lwów!" which kind of summed up the sentiment of the Poles that had experienced Soviet hospitality in the Russian camps in the Siberian artic regions.
sjam   
25 Feb 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

I don't know about this special issue,

Okay accepted :-)

That maybe, but if Stalin so much as suspected this,

I believe Stalin was aware of Anders plan, afterall he had the 'Cambridge Five' and other agents in place within the British F.O. hence why the F.O. did their utmost to make sure the Polish forces were not united as one in Germany as Anders had wanted. This is clear from the document link. Also Anders' 2nd Corps was infiltrated by Soviets in fact one of his A.D.C's was discovered to be a Soviet agent and punished for it; the British also had their agents with the 2nd Corps. At this time however Stalin had not yet got the atomic bomb so was not ever going to take any overt military action that would really upset his allies the USA and UK. Anyway he didn't need to as the British F.O. did his job for him. IMO.

The British government already saw the dangers of mutiny in Anders' 2nd Corps after Yalta and had been gradually working towards neuturalising Anders since he asked for his troops to be withdrawn from the Italian front after the Yalta announcement. Whether the plan had any merit is almost irrelavant as we will never know how it might have worked out; the fact that Anders had a plan to liberate Poland from Germany is very little known or mentioned in literature about Anders even though it is alluded to in declassified secret Allied documents.