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Last Post: 24 Jun 2011
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From: Poznan
Speaks Polish?: native speaker, graduated Polish Philology
Interests: neuropsychology, gender studies, performance art, tennis, modern poetry

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aston   
24 Jun 2011
Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

You are missing the point. LGBT people are not 'striving for acceptance'. We are striving to be ignored.

That is only part of the truth. Some want, the others are just too expansive, blunt (looking for the right word but hopefully you'll get what I mean).

So what in your opinion does 'make it easier'.

I gave the example of people licking each other on the street. This is what I personally don't like and what I consider not normal at all. And I don't care if these are two men, women, or a man with a woman. If you are normal, act like normal. Of course, you can say that some hetero are serial killers and this doesn't mean that all hetero will be called criminals but my point was that such beahaviour simply doesn't help when people fight for their rights.

Surely you aren't suggesting that the two are mutually exclusive. Trans people, as you well know, Aston, can be homosexual or (as in your case) homophobic.

And why do you think I'm homophobic? I only stated I don't like any exaggeration. If I had my own business and I had to choose between a stupid woman and an intelligent man, I would obviously chose the latter. Not because I'm discriminating women but because I want an intelligent worker. Of course if the situation was different, I would choose the woman. But then if you asked the feminists, you probably know what would be the reaction... And would you choose differently?

Sorry, but I believe in a natural way of being and in the reason. I won't act against my interests only because some people might consider me intolerant or homophobic. This is how it becomes a paranoia and soon you are suspecting everyone of the discrimation issues.

As to the 'mutual exclusive' thing, I only tried to report a general view on the matter and I don't have any idea why you attached me to this view.

So you're saying it's OK as long as people hide?

No, once again. I was NOT saying about hiding, nor that I'm against homosexual people or anything like this. I only described some social tendencies and personally I think people just should act naturally but according to good taste. If I go to the dean, I'm not trying to convince him/her that I'm a man, cause my ID is just as it is and it simply would bring me more problems than it is needed. When I'm with my partner on the street I don't put my tongue into his/her mouth or dig in his/her pants. I guess this is or at least should be obvious.

But there're and will be people who don't know how to behave in public places and it doesn't have anything to do with their status. Just when the minorities are in the kinda hot seat right now, some people might dig pits for themselves and it might become the biter bit, unfortunately.
aston   
24 Jun 2011
Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

The matter is rather delicate and I'd try not to offend anyone. I have nothing against any minorities. I consider myself as one of them as well (although not homosexual). However, the most annoying is when people (not all!) exaggerate in striving for acceptance. They can, for instance, openly lick each other on the street, what I personally consider not appropriate and it doesn't depend on the sexual orientation at all.

What I want to say, is that such behaviour doesn't make it easier for homosexuals and many people tend to be neutral when stating their opinions on the minorities but they don't like and don't accept such exaggeration, which in fact is not compatible with social norms of the public behaviour. Sexual matters just shouldn't be taken to the street.

On the other hand, yes, homosexuality is still consider as inferior in general and the social situation of homosexual people is worse than this of transsexuals, even though both groups are in the same boat. The answer seems quite simple, it's all about appearances as always. People judge by appearances, so they are more willing to accept that someone undergoes a sex switching treatment than a fact that a man loves a man. In the first case it is about trying to adapt yourself to the social reality (you already look and act like the opposite sex, so no one has doubts) and in the second one it is rather about trying to adapt the society to yourself. I think this is what drives people mad.
aston   
25 May 2010
Language / Meaning of 'Podtopione' please [7]

When you drown (utopić) something it's drown and probably dead. "Podtopione" suggests that there was kind of attempt to drown something but it will "be alive" probably. It's not a complete process.

The difference is probably similar to
to be asphyxiated /strangled - to choke.

Podtopione - it's podtopione
podtopić - to podtopić