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Polonius3   
4 Aug 2017
News / Nuclear Power in Poland? Yes, please! Absolutely nobody disagrees! [73]

the situation never existed

But Morawiecki and 500+ do exist. So please explain how it is that the PO screamed and shouted that 500+ would break the budget, while Morawiecki calmly prefdicted it wouldn't cost the taxpayer a brass farthing. He simply put a stop to PO-tolerated VAT theft. Also, as a hard-nosed capitalist, do tell us how for the first time in history there is no budget deficit, but a budget surplus. We're all waiting with bated breath!
Polonius3   
4 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Polish Pig Farmer's Gazette

Once again pretending that documents and paperwork tell the full story is one of the standard MOs of agents of influence. As stated previously, agents of influence are often the most difficult agents to detect, as THERE IS SELDOM MATERIAL EVIDENCE THAT CONNECTS THEM WITH A FOREIGN POWER.

Your true or feigned ignorance of Polonia could well be another indicator of your clandestine service to the Kremlin. The old Polonia descended from bread-seeking peasant immigiants of the late 19th and early 20th century may not have been too sophisticated, but after the war tens of thousands of Polish WW2 freedom-fighters came to America from refugee camps in Germany and the UK and became a centre of fiercely patriotic, anti-communist activity. A single article about the brave ZOMO allegedly protecting decent Poles from the Solidarity bandits would have disqualified a journalist for life -- something PF seems incapable of doing with a certain disgusting loudmouth. The PolAm press became highly politicised and knowledgeable about what was going on in Soviet-occupied Poland thanks to Radio Free Europe and the Voice of America whose bulletins were reproducd by the Polonian media. The latest news was also provided to more than 30 PolAm newspapers by Polonia's Man in Warsaw.

So, once again HB, you have demonstrated to the whole PF your total lack of credibility and how you truly deserve your title of LL. Is there really no cure for compulsive lying!
Polonius3   
4 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

paid agent of influence

Just in case the term "agent of influence" is not clear to all posters, here is a defitnion:
An agent of influence is an agent who uses his or her position to influence public opinion or decisions beneficial to the country whose intelligence service operates the agent. Agents of influence are often the most difficult agents to detect, as there is seldom material evidence that connects them with a foreign power. Most commonly they serve the interests of a foreign power either as: 1) a controlled agent directly recruited and controlled by a foreign power; 2) as a "trusted contact" that consciously collaborates to advance foreign interests but are not directly recruited or controlled by a foreign power; or 3) as a "useful idiot" that is completely unaware of how their actions further the interests of a foreign power. Activities range from indirectly spreading the propaganda and lobbying for the interests of the foreign power as well as sowing defeatism to demoralise the victim society.

For the benfit of those posters who know what's what but like to play dumb (one of the MOs of such agents), no, the agent of influence does not go about with an identification tag on his lapel prokaiming: JON HAROLD, Agent of Infuence No. 3497108B.
Polonius3   
4 Aug 2017
News / Nuclear Power in Poland? Yes, please! Absolutely nobody disagrees! [73]

Because one was never launched. PO surely wouldn't want to publicise its sloppy governance and aura of scamsterism, whilst PiS have had their hands full carrying out good changes amid the unending sabotage and obstruction attempts by the hysterical poor losers' contingent.

But how is it that 500+ has not cost the taxpayer a single grosz? Because, as Morawiecki put it, it sufficed to stop the theft of VAT revenues. BTW how do you account for the budget surplus for the first time in history?
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Nuclear Power in Poland? Yes, please! Absolutely nobody disagrees! [73]

PO couldn't find the money for i

PO couldn't find money for many things since so much of the state tax revenues
somehow "evaporated" and mysteriously turned up in the pockets of scamsters while the PO-era authorities looked the other way. Explain that, won't you?
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

propaganda of the worst sort on here dail

If pro-Polish sentiment and consistent oppositon to inveterate Pole-bashers in your view is the worst sort of propaganda, so be it. IMHits of being here, so why must he constantly revile and discredit Poles, Poland and all things Polish as "crappy". That incongruity (after all no-one is forcing hm to stay here!) makes it appear likely that he is actually a paid agent of influecne whose assignment is to slander the country, its authorities and everything about it. One only wonders in whose interest that might be?
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Polish Pig Farmer's Gazette used to tell the lies the Party fed him

That repeated jibe reveals your unending diarrhoea of hte mouth and abysmal ignorance of the American Polonia which has always been fiercely anti-communist, conservative and pro-Catholic. Anyone who would call Solidarność activists bandits and hail ZOMOs as heroes could not have possibly been a correspondent for the US Polonia Press even for one day. I have been serving Polonia for decades on end. Even today, Polonians taking part in Polish elections vote for PiS in the 60% range.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

us which of the donors listed here are those "front groups

Infant school again? No, that's part of your agent of infleunce MO. When necessary play dumb, reduce things to the absurd, confuse your opponents. You know as well as most people (maybe lower-case doesn't, but he's not very bright) that front groups do not list themselves as such. And the flow of funds makes it difficult to determine who is bankrolling whom.

For ddetails contact the MSW spokesman.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

given a certain villa back to the state which once owned the property

How do you know? Any evidence? What if it never was state proeprty but was
sold on the open market by a private estate agent? Yes, they had those back then, but how would you know. Your knowledge of Poland comes from the Kosher Courier and other simlarly dodgy sources.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Which of the below

Are you still in infant school? Those may be the officially published donors. The real sponsors are off n the shadows. They don't bankroll directly but through front groups, subsidiaries, special funds, NGOs, universities, etc. in such a way that tracing it back to them is quite a challenge. But, like it or not, that is how the world operates -- governmnets, special services, companies, institutions and mega-

corporations as well as Soros and his multitude of NGOs. Still Błaszczak's interior ministry found a reason to withdraw Open Dialogue's arms-dealing permit aready back in June before Kramek started calling for a Polish Maidan to overthrow the good-change govenrment.

If you had intended to act out what it takes to be a good agent of influence, you couldn't have done a better job. You are a textbook example. They always produce documents, sometimes swamp their vicitms with paperwork and parrot indefensible falsehoods believing like Hitler's crew that a lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

plenty of evidence

Find yourself a translator and get a load of this:
wiadomosci.tvp.pl/8219091/sponsorzy-fundacji-otwarty-dialog

Ask yourself, what interest would Russia's sole producer of atomic submarines and a naval armaments company in Russian-occupied Crimea have in promoting democracy in Poland. A putsch maybe, but not democracy!
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

he is above reproach

You are playing the "useful idiot" role to the hilt. First you parrot some intenable notion (eg Soros is a great, selfless and wholly altruistic philanthropist) and when confronted you allege that the source exploidng your claim is unreliable or otherwise stonewall. Find out why Soros is feared, suspect and unwelcome in different countries:

washingtonfeed.com/massive-movement-to-overthrow-george-soros-explodes-in-macedonia.html

there is no proof

Yes, but there are indications. I might be a Soros agent, but I would have to be; 1) a materialist and/or 2) someone to whom his anarcho-leftist-libertine agenda is acceptable. HB by contrast displays all the hallmarkss of an ideal agent of influence. Why else would he live and work in a coutnry he hates, derides its people, culture, tradiitons, religion, food, industry and most everything else as "crappy" if someone wasn't handsomely paying him to. Besides he is a matrialist, hedonist and cynic, the ideal attributes of a good agent of influence.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

there's no question of wrongdoing by the foundation

How do you know? Did you personally run a thorough-going audit? Or were you briefed by your guru and handler HB? You, jon. aren't bright enough to be an agent of influence, that's why they chose HB. But never fear. In the overall scheme of things you do qualify to be what Lenin called a "useful idiot". Such a one dutifully parrots what the agent of influence happens to be peddling at a given point in time.

And I must admit, you'r quite good at that, so hang in there!
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

very high level work they do.

Such organisations at times puruse their own agenda, even a worthwhile one. But in exchange for getting generously bankrolled they grant their sponsors access to the countries they're registered in (re Open Dialogue to Poland), may serve as dirty-money laundries or to infilitrate the host government's structures.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

entirely above suspicion

The Foundation is clearly a "słup" (front or pawn) serving those who are bankrolling it. No front organisation openly states "we are a front organisation bankrolled by.... for the purpose of....." Instead they spout pious platitudes about how they are totally devoted to the natural environment, democracy, saving historical monuments or some endnagered species, etc. NGOs, whci afre lawys in need of grants, are an exceptionally convenient tool for covering up the hidden agenda of organisations, corproations, entire governments or just their security services.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

fascism always needs "hiddden enemies"

Typical reaction tactic. Like making fun of conspiracy theories except one finds them at every turn. PO are always looking for ulterior motives in PiS' ranks -- Szyszko opposes the EU anti-logging order becuase he probably has contracted the timber with some commercial company. If that's true he will surely deny it or find some fancy excuse. That is part and parcel of the way the world worfs -- IBM, Siemens, Sony, GM, VW, not to mention state intelligence services. Call them hidden enemies if you like, but one side is trying to get a preview of the competitor's latest designs and the competitor is trying to prevent it or send the intelligence-gatherers on a wild goose chase (disinformation). Espionage services want to know what some rival country is planning and that country's counter-intelligence aims to nip such attemtps in the bud. An arrangement as old as human history.

They are not

How do you know? It seems you are feeding your Hairy guru the exact ripostes he wants to hear.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

paperwork and reports

One can create paperwork and reports to support any idea, campaign, movement hypothesis or claim. And that was the case even before the cyber-era. Those employing agents of influence have an excellent grasp of human pschology -- esp. human greed. So in every government, institution, coporation or other body (UN, EU, OSCE, churches, civic organsiaitons, ewtc.) there are "plants" whose task is to collect intelligecne, dsptread disinformation, sabotage or whatever their masters have ordered htem to do. I wouldn't be eurpised if there are few such people even in the PiS administration. That has always been the case, and those who try to deny it give themselves away as either being extremely gullible and taking everything at face value or, more likely, serving as agents of influence themselves.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Care to read the documents for yourself?

Now that the cat's out of the bag and the "agent of inlfuence" hypothesis is becoming increasingly plausible, you should chill out a bit. Immediately producing official documents only confirms your organsational and tactical dexterity and shows you are plugged into some institutional setup and have all necessary "evidence" needed to pusue your mission at your fingertips.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Here's a list of the 'weapons'

Congratulations. You had me fooled. Some of your naive claims made me wonder why a fairly intelligent person would believe such official codswallop. Now it all falls into place. You are an agent of influence. An agent of influence insists that purported statements, façades and official pronoucements are genuine and above all they deny they are agents of inlfuence.

Of course Open Dialogue, especially those backing it in the shadows, do not publish their true aims, MO and expenses. It's all very clandestine and involves multiple organisational layers. The agent knows only his immediate superior and immediate subordinate and no-one else. The Russians have been masters of such operations, masters of disguise, deception, disinformation and subterfuge. Purporitng to aid the Ukrainian freedom upsurge was an excellent ruse to conceal the true aims being pursued.

So once again, many congrats! Initially it didn't make any sense that someone who hates and discredits Poland, Poles, Polish heritage, etc. at every turn and always supports the antii-Polish side of any row should force himself to live here. Now it all makes sense.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

slandering this organisation

You may not be as bright as HB (that's why he's your guru, not vice-versa) but tell us why would Russian interests bankroll a Polish foundation? Pure Russian altruism, munificence and sincere desire to ensure true freedom and democracy in a hostile NATO state?
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

this time will be answering

Why is it that thePO scmastersand elarier govenremtns never brought the red scum to justice? Are Poles dumber than Israelis? They nabbed Eichmann in Argentina. Why were no Polish commandos sent to Sweden to nab that scumbag Michnik?Yuur hero Col. Mazguła claims martial law ensured security to Poles.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

brave heroes from ZOMO protecting women and children from Solidarnosc bandits

You've only just got back form this time a more extended clandesitne foray out Belarus way and already have diarrhoea of the mouth. Try Stoperan! BTW $, £, PLN or RUB?
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

The Open Dialogue Foundation, which had called for the overthrow of Poland's government and announced 16 steps on how to achieve it, appears to be a cover for Russian oligarchs linked to that country's defence industry and secret services. The Tusk-era authorities issued a licence to the foundation to deal in armaments. Why an organisation ostensibly devoted to democracy and human rights needs to have access to firearms? -- is a key question. Among the bankrollers is a naval armaments firm in Russian-annexed Crimea and a St Petersburg-based producer of atomic submarines. The foundations appears to be a pawn receiving Russian funds in exchange for a foothold in Poland to Russians interests,Schetyna, who eagerly was photorgaphed with the foundation's leader Kramek, has now been caught with his trousers down, humming and hawing to worm his way out of the the ***'s latest scandal.