Genealogy / Trying to find town of origin, Dubrawska name [12]

@Alien, I know, I wrote about it in my post, in case you managed to miss it...


Could you say where they are then? I've managed to find another one:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamieniec_(wojew%C3%B3dztwo_warmi%C5%84sko-mazurskie)

...and Kamieniec Ząbkowicki, but that's it:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamieniec_Z%C4%85bkowicki

Genealogy / Trying to find town of origin, Dubrawska name [12]


There doesn't seem to be any place called "Kamilec" or "Kamielec" in Poland and the way it's spelled ("Kamiliec") could suggest Eastern-European origin. There's a city in Ukraine that was part of Poland in the past which is called Kamieniec Podolski, which I've seen on some Russian sites written as "Камелец-Подольский" (Kamieliec-Podolskij") for some reason, so maybe it's some bad case of misspelling a name...

The only place name remotely similar in Poland seems to be a village "Kamieniec":

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamieniec_(wojew%C3%B3dztwo_dolno%C5%9Bl%C4%85skie)


Kamilew

Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [112]

@Novichok, do you have any hobby that doesn't make people squirm? lol

Dug out from the depths of Polanda:


Atch, I've been watching videos on YouTube of artists painting with gouache and I'm getting more and more interested. It will probably take some time before I try it out, because I have acrylics to use up before they dry out lol, but could you recommend any gouache brand? Which one are you using? And what kind of paper do you use for gouache? 🤔

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


*of our

*sigh* lol

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


Yes, and since it seems he primarily works with watercolours I wonder how much money he spends on watercolour paper - the good stuff is expensive... ;/


It may not be obvious to you, I guess, since it's a Polish painting. 🤔 I don't think the story of Lady Godiva is that well known in Poland, so it isn't really a theme in Polish art... I found out myself about Lady Godiva from one "The Benny Hill Show" episodes ;D

The painting that Kuczyński based his on is "Szał uniesień" ("Ecstasy") by Władysław Podkowiński from 1894:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sza%C5%82_uniesie%C5%84

It's a big oil painting (310 × 275 cm) and one of the most known paintings in Poland - that's why it made sense for Kuczyński to base his painting on it since many Poles would immediately recognise it and maybe decipher some meaning:



The author destroyed it, but it was renovated.

Btw, in order not to go off topic too much I "moved" the rest our discussion to this thread:

https://polishforums.com/off-topic/hobby-87293/#msg1962790

Off-Topic / What's your hobby? [112]

From another thread:


Very few will! Leonardo da Vinci wasn't "just" talented, he was a genius (and not only in the artistic field) :) There aren't many people like that, I think. 🤔


A kindred spirit! :))) So, out of 4 women on this forum 3 are into art and making art... Interesting... 🤔


Oh wow, that's so awesome! I was throwing away most of my drawings when I was a teen, because I thought I will make something better one day... I didn't realise that the adult me will be sentimental about my old drawings :(((

Could you possibly post any of your stuff on here?? =)))


I feel for you... For all my parents' faults at least they didn't object to me going to art school.


So at some point you got to go to an art school or an art course? Or do you mean your scientific education?

Genealogy / Looking for old street name : Teuchertstrasse in Gliwice [24]

@BusterG, yes, you're right - that street changed names again - it's Częstochowska now:

bip.gliwice.eu/wykaz-zmienionych-nazw-ulic-i-placow-miasta-gliwice-od-roku-1989

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

And getting back to social and political stuff:

"Artificial Intelligence"
3rd prize at the 10th International Cartoon Contest "De Geus" (2023), Belgium:

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

And more:

Titles:

1. "Wings"
2. "Drummer"
3. "Coffee"
4. "Headphones":

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


Yes, it does, in fact, but this is not what this thread is about.


Nonsense, many normal human beings love metaphors and paintings, including Americans who have the First Amendment lol 🙄

Now getting back to Paweł Kuczyński's art - it looks like something went wrong with my second post and I doubled the "Insomnia" piece (although it looks OK on my phone, just my laptop shows that it's doubled - strange o_O). So this is the single artwork that should be in that second post:

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

"Insomnia":

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

This time a batch of non-political works:

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


I like them a lot too and "The Legend of the Giants" is great :) Btw, that last mural I posted reminds me of a digital painting - rich, saturated colours, the general aesthetic and those tiny glowing lights... I wonder if she's dabbling in painting digitally too? 🤔


Oh wow, that's amazing! I must admit that I didn't know much about street art, but I'm getting more interested and I would defenitely want to see such murals when travelling too :)

Btw, I think those murals are a great way to promote some cities or parts of cities that are less popular with tourists. 🤔 I've even seen people making tattoos with the designs from the murals of one of the Polish street art group.


You know, there's a controversy considering this issue - whether there's such a thing as "talent" or not. There's a division concerning this even among artists. Some artists hate that word, because it doesn't take into account how much work and practice you have to put into it in order to acquire drawing, painting, etc. skills and gives people an impression that it's some kind of "magic". They argue that this is simply a skill that you can learn and not something you're born with. And I think I agree with that to an extent, although you probably have to have some kind of predispositions for this (but what are those predispositions - I'm not sure).

Maybe artists are simply kids who didn't stop drawing and painting as they were getting older :))

Feniks, have you ever tried drawing or painting (besides when you were a kid, of course ;))? :)


Me too :) I like how clever and on point his works are.

I'll post some more from Paweł Kuczyński then, because he seems to be quite prolific :)

Do you know which painting this one is based on?:

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Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, I only wrote about swastika being illegal, because you brought up swastika showing up on a wall. So, I explained it to you that it wouldn't happen in Poland. Just like a LGBT rainbow won't show up on a wall in RuSSia, but I don't hear you complaining about law forbiding "propagating LGBT propaganda" in RuSSia. Actually - you like it. So you prefer Nazi propaganda to LGBT "propaganda"? lol 🤦


So does RuSSia, but I don't hear you complaining about that.

You're a tiresome, boring hypocrite, Novichok. That's why I mentioned those Soviet monuments in Poland which you defend.

So, as I wrote, you can shove up your opinions where the Sun doesn't shine :)

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


Unlike the US which wasn't affected by WWII as much as Europe was, Poland lost around 20% of its population (percentage-wise that's more than the Soviet Union) due to World War II and became the site of the biggest genocide in the history of humankind. And that happened because of people wearing f*cking swastikas on their uniforms and who were putting them on the walls. Survivors of the concentration camps are still alive in Poland and I wouldn't like them to be subjected to seeing swastikas glorified in public spaces in Poland. And I myself wouldn't want to see that happening either.

And I don't give a flying f*ck about what you think about it, about Polish law, art, grafitti, Poles and Poland in general. Get it, Novichok? You can shove your opinions up... you know where.

Now, we're drifting to the off topic region - about Polish law, American law and history and so I'm not going to continue this (and we had this discussion OVER and OVER again on this forum already anyway, so find someone else to bore).

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


Also... There are monuments, both historic and contemporary that cause controversy. Not everybody likes them and sometimes many people don't like them - like, for example, Soviet monuments in Poland :) (+ they're often ugly ;P) Monuments are also an example of art in a public space - just in the form of sculpture :)

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, from what I've noticed those murals that appear in public spaces are usually of the "tolerable" kind (and putting just a swastika as a mural on the wall would be illegal in Poland, I imagine). Just like those by Natalia Rak - pretty women + pretty flowers + cute kids (=pretty, pleasant, not controversial). That's one of the reasons why I chose to post her murals on this forum :)

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, I didn't mean a mural particularly by Picasso. We were talking about murals in general. Obviously I'd prefer one that I would personally like.

Language / Name Polonization! [5]

@Torq, you devil... lol


:D

I love this one ;D


"Wołga" maybe? 🤔

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


Oh, I would love it on mine! :D Novichok, take into consideration who you're talking to - I love art :)


lol
Are you kidding?? Imagine how much money such house would be worth then ;D

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Alien, could be... In my neighbourhood two blocks of flats were renovated in a rather short time span not that very long ago, including mine and another one is being renovated right now.

And getting back to topic, I'm honestly in awe of artists who make murals on entire walls of a few storey buildings... Even though I can paint, it still boggles my mind lol I don't know how they do it - I'm guessing that they are probably using a grid to scale up or sth, but still - it's wild... 🤯 🤩

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, yeah, it looks horrible... It doesn't seem like people are living there... 🤔

That was 7 years ago though, so who knows what happened to it.

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, by "run down" I meant "wyglądające obskurnie" and not unfit for living or use. I didn't know how to put it in English.

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

Since we've switched to discussing painting on walls :) - murals by Natalia Rak, a graduate of Academy of Fine Arts in Łódź, born in 1986, who's creating both in Poland and internationally:

First the artist:



And her work:

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]


It does seem to be happening in Poland these days too:

infoludek.pl/szczecin/miasto-wskazalo-lokalizacje-przeznaczone-do-malowania-graffiti/


Yeah, it can make some run down, gray buildings, etc. look less depressing, I guess.


Me too. I especially hate it on historic buildings. And I despise those a$$holes who cover proper street art, murals with their ugly scribbles, destroying people's work :/

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

Nonsense, both the US and Poland had and have both intelligent and dumb graffiti :)) (although I don't know what's so "intelligent" about supporting gang drug sales) Stop trolling, Novichok.

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

Wow, I didn't know about this, thanks!

And even in those times people complained about it lol - a quote from that Wiki article:

Writing around 100 AD, Plutarch wrote of graffiti: "There is nothing written in them which is either useful or pleasing - only so-and-so 'remembers' so-and-so, and 'wishes him the best', and is 'the best of his friends', and many things full of such ridiculousness".

:D

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

@Novichok, that's graffiti and there's nothing particularly "Polish" about it. Graffiti originated in the US - so maybe that's why you love it :)))

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [173]

And some more:

"Islands":



"Dinner":



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