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jon357   
18 Jun 2020
Travel / Fortune Tellers/ Astrologers in Warsaw [27]

Do you still have these gypsies in the EU?

In the UK, a tiny minority of travellers are like this. In Poland, you don't tend to get many people calling at your door.

I would never seek out any false medium, its has Satanic origins, stay away.

The real ones don't advertise their services.
jon357   
18 Jun 2020
Travel / Fortune Tellers/ Astrologers in Warsaw [27]

Every fortune teller is a scammer.

I once heard a cassette recording of a colleague's visit to a clairvoyant in the UK (they used to sell you a tape of the visit). She was basically cold-reading the whole time. Her voice was going up at the end of every sentence (a bit like some Americans talk) making each statement very subtly a question, so she could gauge the customer's reaction.
jon357   
18 Jun 2020
Travel / Fortune Tellers/ Astrologers in Warsaw [27]

DO SOME POLISH PEOPLE VISIT FORTUNE TELLERS?

Yes, there are plenty. Including one very famous clairvoyant who's on TV sometimes.

There's also SMS fortune telling, basically a scam.

In Poland there are some traditional forms of folk divination practised in the Autumn, around All Soul's Day and St. Andrew's Day.

Subsaharan Africa where they practise santeria or voodoo

More usually other forms of traditional practice.
jon357   
14 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

a clear warning to Duda

Duda's tweeting in English, trying to backtrack and pretend his words were taken out of context!

They weren't. The reportage was entirely accurate. And he just risks alienating voters. The only ones he'd attract by that weird sort of rhetoric are ones who'd vote for him anyway.

when in the history of mankind was such an extremely wasteful privileged experience even possible in the first place

From the early 1840s railway boom in the U.K., when ordinary people could first afford to travel.

And before of course, for those with the financial wherewithal to do so, as Atch points out.
jon357   
13 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

300 hundred thousand in votes.

More likely gained him 30 crazies that were probably going to vote for him anyway if they can find their dowôd osobista under the pile of bottles and lost him 300,000

The prat was just dog-whistling to the least savoury of his fans.
jon357   
12 Jun 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]

Duda will be able to get his message across to the old and the stupid.

people are reporting problems with registering to vote.

As ever, it depends on who turns out to vote. This in Poland favours rural and small town older voters. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility however that there will be a larger than usual show of urban, younger voters, as there was when PiS were thrown out of office before.
jon357   
12 Jun 2020
News / Britain - problem for Poland and Poles? [122]

lad, I was able to master the language to an unrecignizable level. My names also

That suggests otherwise.

This thread suggests the issues are not as you present them in the post above: polishforums.com/off-topic/antiterrorist-laws-acatholic-engineer-85550

Anyway, you're posting about your problems in a different country,rather than anything in Britain.
jon357   
12 Jun 2020
Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]

Lódź and Katowice are/were industrial centres and that generally means less greenery

They both have a beauty and character of their own, especially Łódż.

Generally nicer people than in most other cities too.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
USA, Canada / Can Americans Travel To Poland After JUN 16, 2020? [13]

Dates can change, rules can change,

Very much so. The situation here in Poland is very fluid now; the first wave hasn't peaked yet. News from America suggests that it's far from over and changing fast.

not be able to catch a flight back

This has happened to me. Fortunately I'm at home since I live here, however I need to be somewhere else at the moment and can't get there (and would need to go into quarantine if I did).

what fun would it be if most stores are closed and the general fun is over too?

It feels very strange here right now. Things are open however people aren't going out.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

And some of the younger mothers really got on board with it and started making proper dinners

A project I'm familiar with for single mothers in a deprived area of Leeds did something similar. There was a budget for some training, and what they wanted was to learn simple dishes and to know what was good; they had no real idea of nutrition and the project was a success.

Education is the key; this however has to be widespread and sustained in order to be truly effective.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Convincing, not forcing is the way I believe.

That takes a lot of work and a lot of time; we're looking at generational issues. The generation who grew up in the U.K. with rationing during and after WWII are probably the healthiest generation ever. We want to replicate this, and it isn't easy.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Normal people understand that.

Of course. The well-being and future growth of children is something that can never be skimped on, can never be compromised and can never be left to chancE.

The school meals programme in Poland is a good one, as it is in the U.K. too. Some of the measures (like 'forbidden foods' for packed lunches in the U.K). can seem draconian however ensuring good health in children, inculcating good eating habits, tackling childhood obesity, prolonging life-expectancy and encouraging a good relation to food tat the kids will practise and pass on to their own kids is invaluable.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

nothing is free just like those free meals

School meals are, for those who need that.

Someone has to pay for them

Who?
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

they are only free to the beneficiary.

That's the whole point. That they are free.

With a kid that doesn't eat properly the rest of the time that wouldn't be my priority.

It's both really. Firefighting, where the need is immediate, together with fostering good eating habits for the future.

Your point about trauma to the kids is an essential one. No child should suffer because of the perceived failings of the parents, and a lot of hard work is needed to truly break the vicious circle of deprivation.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Who is society

Everybody.

Nothing is free

School meals are free to those in need.

In Poland, despite severe budgetary constraints, society does its best to alleviate poverty. Good school meals are a basic, especially as the duty of every school is to give every child in that school the best start in life that they can.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Nothing is free

School meals are.

As Kaprys pointed out, society provides them.
jon357   
10 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

More of your usual nonsense.

free education isn't so free.

It's free. Society can well afford to educate every child well, and to provide decentt, nourishing meals at school. Meals that compare well with what any child, regardless of background, gets at home.

The E.U. economy is doing quite well

Do pay attention; we're talking about Poland. Which provides decent school meals to its kids. Education is free too.
jon357   
9 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

the churches food pantry's full of free food.

We tend to do it more carefully over here in Poland. Hence a good school meal service rather than charity.

free education isn't so free

It is here.

the E.U. is economically in dire straights as the economy keeps getting worse there.

The economy's doing quite well here, COVID aside.
jon357   
9 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

And you Brits wonder why we have so many people incarcerated in the U.S.

Everybody wonders that.

In most places, the ideal is to support families that are struggling to cope, help them to manage life better. Not incarcerate people for poor parenting skills and split families up.

Not really as feeding kids foods like spaghetti, goulash, baked beans with hotdogs, coleslaw ect.

If it was that cheap, schools wouldn't be short of money. The costs, especially in a district with high population density and high povert6 levels, quickly mount up.
jon357   
9 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Parents are apart of a child's education.

In your ideal and nonexistent world, yes. In the real world, not parents live up to that ideal. Hence good, and where necessary free, school dinners.

If a parent refuses to responsibly feed their children properly then have them arrested for neglect

The prisons would be full and the kids' homes would be bursting to the seams. And families struggling t o cope with life would be penalised and . Rather than helped to cope.

Once.the kid.walks.into.to school they become the schools responsibility

In the U.K., all kids are the local authority's responsibility anyway, hence social services, educational guidance etc..

Of course if a school has to feed kids (as they should), then they need to be very well funded.
jon357   
9 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

here is no excuse for such child abuse ......NONE !

That is not however an excuse for not providing school dinners. A child needs food and a good education regardless of how poor the parenting is.

Otherwise the vicious circle never breaks.
jon357   
8 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

A sandwich is a second breakfast and prepared by parents

It's the kids who don't get that, or even a first breakfast (plenty of kids in Poland don't), that need to be fed.

Because it's boring and even worse- awfully repetitive.

That's school dinners. They're always on a tight
jon357   
5 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Ours (in Doncaster) were actually ok; it's a rich area for farming. Except during the potato crisis in the mid 70s when school dinners were making chips from sweet potatoes.

Probably quite trendy nowadays, but then it was just weird.

@Atch mentioned sugary desserts. As I remember, they skimped on the sugar. If it was a sponge pudding it would be strangely unsweet with a barely visible smear of jam

I got big portions though (not always desirable) being the son of one of the dinnerladies....
jon357   
5 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

they were all watery and inedible....

You get the same here in bary mleczne.

Unless you mean Smash which is sold here now too.
jon357   
5 Jun 2020
Study / School meals in Poland [145]

Doncaster. They have a centralised catering service that supplies public schools,

Crikey! That's nicer than the school dinners I had in that town. The salad (a rare offering) were the only decent thing. The meat pie was always lamentable. At least it hasn't been privatised, which doubtless makes a difference. It's a town that has long had issues with poverty; the school meal is probably the main meal of the day for some kids there, so it deserves to be decent.