jon357
11 Oct 2020
jon357
11 Oct 2020
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]
A bit like the English phrase "waiting for Christmas". Waiting for someone to do something and the wait seems endless. Waiting and waiting and it still hasn't happened yet.
A bit like the English phrase "waiting for Christmas". Waiting for someone to do something and the wait seems endless. Waiting and waiting and it still hasn't happened yet.
jon357
11 Oct 2020
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]
Not seizing opportunities when you can?
Not sitting back and waiting for things just to maybe happen?
Not seizing opportunities when you can?
Not sitting back and waiting for things just to maybe happen?
jon357
11 Oct 2020
Language / Game - guess Polish idioms/sayings in direct English translation [1756]
If you're waiting for a star to fall from heaven, you'll be waiting for something that never arrives.
Like Godot, or in Poland, pears from a willow tree...
If you're waiting for a star to fall from heaven, you'll be waiting for something that never arrives.
Like Godot, or in Poland, pears from a willow tree...
jon357
11 Oct 2020
jon357
10 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
I doubt that the OP is interested in warehouse jobs.
Which barely scrapes Podlasie.
Jeronimo Martins have signed contracts for logistic
I doubt that the OP is interested in warehouse jobs.
new highway built Warsaw is only 30 mins drive
Which barely scrapes Podlasie.
jon357
9 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
There's something true in that. Plus the microclimate there means the trees aren't the Polish birches and evergreens etc but more deciduous ones like in England.
They are very worth a visit! I've only been once but would go again. There are restaurants that serve Tatar food.
Cruises are dead right now due to Covid; that won't change soon. Having said that, life aboard a ship has its frustrations but is worth it. I used to work on a ship, an industrial one (the largest in the world, like a floating island), and would go back again right now. And might.
On cruise ships though, the passengers may be able to afford the fare, however very few are high-spenders.
It feels like Britain because it's at the seaside :)
There's something true in that. Plus the microclimate there means the trees aren't the Polish birches and evergreens etc but more deciduous ones like in England.
I'd love to see the Tatar villages.
They are very worth a visit! I've only been once but would go again. There are restaurants that serve Tatar food.
And aren't most cruise passengers of the wealthy and aged kind?
Cruises are dead right now due to Covid; that won't change soon. Having said that, life aboard a ship has its frustrations but is worth it. I used to work on a ship, an industrial one (the largest in the world, like a floating island), and would go back again right now. And might.
On cruise ships though, the passengers may be able to afford the fare, however very few are high-spenders.
jon357
9 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
For me it feels a bit like Britain.
It's got a very rich history; in somewhere like Siemiatycze all those things are visible. I'd happily live in the parts of Podlasie closer to Warsaw in the area around Liw Castle however I'm twice the OP's age. There isn't that much to do or see, not many places to go out and shopping can be tricky. Siedlce is a pleasant town however it's not for everyone and Białystok always feels a little isolated.
If you want to travel at weekends etc, Warsaw (which of course is in a part of Poland where its eastern suburbs almost touch Podlasie) is by far the easiest place to be. More things happening there and more opportunities in life.
Trojmiasto has an almost Nordic feel
For me it feels a bit like Britain.
Polish, Ruthenian, Tatar and of course Jewish influences.
It's got a very rich history; in somewhere like Siemiatycze all those things are visible. I'd happily live in the parts of Podlasie closer to Warsaw in the area around Liw Castle however I'm twice the OP's age. There isn't that much to do or see, not many places to go out and shopping can be tricky. Siedlce is a pleasant town however it's not for everyone and Białystok always feels a little isolated.
they're too far away imo from those must-see for me destinations,
If you want to travel at weekends etc, Warsaw (which of course is in a part of Poland where its eastern suburbs almost touch Podlasie) is by far the easiest place to be. More things happening there and more opportunities in life.
jon357
8 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
Pullution tends to be a trade-off for having actual human activity somewhere.
Podlasie is pretty in parts, and I'd happily have a weekend home there (in the right place), however there are a lot of drawbacks about living there, as well as a brain/skills drain to places where there's more opportunity.
Pullution tends to be a trade-off for having actual human activity somewhere.
Podlasie is pretty in parts, and I'd happily have a weekend home there (in the right place), however there are a lot of drawbacks about living there, as well as a brain/skills drain to places where there's more opportunity.
jon357
8 Oct 2020
Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]
Lovely. A lot of people don't like the black ones due to superstition; they're the type most commonly euthanised unfortunately.
The nicest sort of surprise.
all black
Lovely. A lot of people don't like the black ones due to superstition; they're the type most commonly euthanised unfortunately.
a surprise to my family - all our cats have been one.
The nicest sort of surprise.
jon357
8 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
Poles who can afford to (especially in country towns) build their own houses on their own land. Or inherit them.
There's a reason that upscale products and services are concentrated in the capital and the larger cities.
Poles who can afford to (especially in country towns) build their own houses on their own land. Or inherit them.
those who have big farms etc. and are wealthy enough to seek luxury goods and services
There's a reason that upscale products and services are concentrated in the capital and the larger cities.
jon357
8 Oct 2020
Genealogy / Last name - Murzyn [33]
Thanks; replied.
With surnames, so many in Poland are descriptions; how a family were perceived by neighbours on the basis of appearance. Murzyn and Turek are good examples of this. It also shows how people moved around centuries ago, and also reflect Poland's position on majot north/south trade routes - the Amber Route among them.
I will send you a message
Thanks; replied.
but rather religious/cultura
With surnames, so many in Poland are descriptions; how a family were perceived by neighbours on the basis of appearance. Murzyn and Turek are good examples of this. It also shows how people moved around centuries ago, and also reflect Poland's position on majot north/south trade routes - the Amber Route among them.
jon357
7 Oct 2020
Life / The climate for gardening in Poland [340]
I'm not a huge fan, partly due to the short flowering season that you mention. have you tried bougainvillea? A much longer flowering season and grows very well in Poland in a sheltered south-facing spot, however we have to bring ours indoors when the first frost appears.
peonies
I'm not a huge fan, partly due to the short flowering season that you mention. have you tried bougainvillea? A much longer flowering season and grows very well in Poland in a sheltered south-facing spot, however we have to bring ours indoors when the first frost appears.
jon357
7 Oct 2020
Genealogy / Last name - Murzyn [33]
Interesting that the mod criticised me rather than the person who tried to go off-topic. Not for the first time either...
Anyway, it's very on-topic to discuss how the surname Murzyn originated and the historical background of the name Murzyn. Its cognates in nearby countries suggest a similar pattern of migration. There are equivalent surnames in various countries in Europe; They all suggest migration from far away, and darker-skinned forebears. The surname Turek isn't rare in Poland either.
Even though there's a limit to what people can say about the surname in question without more historical specifics.
It doubtless was a well-intentioned name. Black cats are the best; what will you call the new one?
Stick to the topic please
Interesting that the mod criticised me rather than the person who tried to go off-topic. Not for the first time either...
Anyway, it's very on-topic to discuss how the surname Murzyn originated and the historical background of the name Murzyn. Its cognates in nearby countries suggest a similar pattern of migration. There are equivalent surnames in various countries in Europe; They all suggest migration from far away, and darker-skinned forebears. The surname Turek isn't rare in Poland either.
Even though there's a limit to what people can say about the surname in question without more historical specifics.
Murzyn. Was it inappropriate in 1970s?
It doubtless was a well-intentioned name. Black cats are the best; what will you call the new one?
jon357
7 Oct 2020
Genealogy / Last name - Murzyn [33]
You think very distant descent means someone can "claim land"?
Stick to the topic please
claim land
You think very distant descent means someone can "claim land"?
Stick to the topic please
jon357
7 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]
According to the World Bank and the OECD, Poland is a high income country by GNI. Above those you mention.
chartsbin.com/view/2438
usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-10-02/poland-reclassified-as-a-developed-economy-by-the-ftse
According to
According to the World Bank and the OECD, Poland is a high income country by GNI. Above those you mention.
chartsbin.com/view/2438
usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-10-02/poland-reclassified-as-a-developed-economy-by-the-ftse
jon357
6 Oct 2020
USA, Canada / Poles Living in the Chicago Area [343]
The story of Chicago and Illinois is in every way the story of migration, different times, different waves of migration, however almost all went there from somewhere. Relatively few people there can be called indigenous.
Freedom to all
The story of Chicago and Illinois is in every way the story of migration, different times, different waves of migration, however almost all went there from somewhere. Relatively few people there can be called indigenous.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Genealogy / Last name - Murzyn [33]
The government would disagree with you.
What isn't at issue is the origin of the name; it has a clear cognate on the British Isles (and other countries to) which presumably reflects (if perhaps inaccurately) someones origins.
Everyone is to some degree, since Homo Sapiens didn't arise here in Poland; we can all trace our DNA back to Africa originally.
guests here
The government would disagree with you.
What isn't at issue is the origin of the name; it has a clear cognate on the British Isles (and other countries to) which presumably reflects (if perhaps inaccurately) someones origins.
foreign
Everyone is to some degree, since Homo Sapiens didn't arise here in Poland; we can all trace our DNA back to Africa originally.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
Or Poles are using it less and less...
Or just because most people are too inherently decent to objectify others.
There are however always rather pathetic exceptions.
Because lefties are
Or Poles are using it less and less...
to bring discord and racial division as seen in
Or just because most people are too inherently decent to objectify others.
There are however always rather pathetic exceptions.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
Says an attention seeker who's never been on the same continent and can't even pronounce the word in question.
One thing about Poland is that there's a diversity of opinion. Fortunately the word 'murzyn' is falling out of use.
Which is not you by any means.
Says an attention seeker who's never been on the same continent and can't even pronounce the word in question.
One thing about Poland is that there's a diversity of opinion. Fortunately the word 'murzyn' is falling out of use.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
Who does?
Like 'murzyn'.
Deal with it.
Sorry I don't associate myself with any part of British colonialism
Who does?
words specially invented to dehumanize and demean people of a different race.
Like 'murzyn'.
Deal with it.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
Yes there is. There is a diversity of opinion, even on these pages.
So you're a Brit. Even very.
Born, raised, educated and spent most of your life in your home country, Britain.
Presumably not those millions of Poles who were happily Party members..
No there is
Yes there is. There is a diversity of opinion, even on these pages.
I was born in the UK
So you're a Brit. Even very.
Born, raised, educated and spent most of your life in your home country, Britain.
Poles resent what the communists did
Presumably not those millions of Poles who were happily Party members..
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
Among people actually from Poland, there is a diversity of opinion on this matter.
Yours too.
Murzyn is not racist ask any pole
Among people actually from Poland, there is a diversity of opinion on this matter.
your British imperialist
Yours too.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
"Down the pub" 30 years ago, and probably a crappy pub.
Most people haven't used racial epithets for nicknames for a long long time.
everyone down the pub.
"Down the pub" 30 years ago, and probably a crappy pub.
Most people haven't used racial epithets for nicknames for a long long time.
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
The what?
That was then, this is now.
Is there really a need to objectify people, especially when some of those objectified dislike it?
the pc brigade
The what?
During my upbringing in the UK
That was then, this is now.
Is there really a need to objectify people, especially when some of those objectified dislike it?
jon357
6 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
That's good. BTW, My understanding was that you were against using it.
How often does anyone need to describe skin colour in Polish and in what context?
I don't agree with using it at all.
That's good. BTW, My understanding was that you were against using it.
words like czarnoskóry
How often does anyone need to describe skin colour in Polish and in what context?
jon357
5 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
And pure design.
Empires come and go; the average length that they last is about 300 years.
Though the Moors ancesters were the Mauretanians (and the Mauritanians today retain part of their complex culture). Not all of them today can be called black (and many there would be offended at that description).
Best to give the word 'murzyn' a dignified and well-deserved burial after years of largely innocent use.
By pure accident.
And pure design.
Empires come and go; the average length that they last is about 300 years.
Though the Moors ancesters were the Mauretanians (and the Mauritanians today retain part of their complex culture). Not all of them today can be called black (and many there would be offended at that description).
Best to give the word 'murzyn' a dignified and well-deserved burial after years of largely innocent use.
jon357
5 Oct 2020
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]
The same way any culture gets to a country. How did the Romans get to North Africa?
Fortunately declining in use. Why objectify someone due to (inaccurate) ethnic characteristics...
got themselves to Spain
The same way any culture gets to a country. How did the Romans get to North Africa?
the word "murzyn"
Fortunately declining in use. Why objectify someone due to (inaccurate) ethnic characteristics...
jon357
5 Oct 2020
Life / Tell me about Northeastern Poland [29]
Łódż is lovely; the faded elegance is a big part of its charm. Katowice looks like any other industrial conurbalion (though the area uphill from the station is architecturally exceptional). Neither look derelict, however north-east Poland has historically far less infrastructure, hence there's less to age.
Łódż is lovely; the faded elegance is a big part of its charm. Katowice looks like any other industrial conurbalion (though the area uphill from the station is architecturally exceptional). Neither look derelict, however north-east Poland has historically far less infrastructure, hence there's less to age.
jon357
5 Oct 2020
USA, Canada / Poles Living in the Chicago Area [343]
She was well on the way.
She belongs to us all.
Emilia Plater was a man?
She was well on the way.
Does she belong to Polish American Heritage?
She belongs to us all.