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Need Help Identifying This Uniform


dawnan 1 | 2
15 Aug 2016 #1
I have been stuck on this uniform for years.I have looked through military uniform books and online, but haven't seen another uniform like this. The man seated was my great-great grandfather. This photo was taken around 1904-1905. For starters, this uniform doesn't have the zig-zag trim on the collar that I have seen in so many photos of Polish military men. Is it even a Polish uniform? He was from the Russian occupied area of Poland. I also find it interesting that he is holding the jacket closed as though it doesn't fit. If that's the case, that tells me that he was no longer in the military when the photo was taken. In looking at everyone in the photo, it looks to me as though they had means.

Any help is appreciated. I hate assuming everything.



Veles - | 201
15 Aug 2016 #2
On a question whether it is a Polish uniform or not, you have answered yourself - Russia occupied Poland. If there is no Polish army, there is no Polish uniform.
OP dawnan 1 | 2
15 Aug 2016 #3
It doesn't look like any Russian military uniform either, hence the question.
gregy741 5 | 1,232
15 Aug 2016 #4
isnt tis 19 century russian cape? smthing like this top left here: uk.pinterest.com/pin/485825878534774512/
Veles - | 201
15 Aug 2016 #5
It doesn't look like any Russian military uniform either,

Why not? By the way, are you 100% sure it is military uniform?
TheOther 6 | 3,674
15 Aug 2016 #6
are you 100% sure it is military uniform?

Funny that you mention that. My first thought was that the image depicts a postman.
OP dawnan 1 | 2
15 Aug 2016 #7
Veles--No, I am NOT certain it is a military uniform. I was told he HAD been in the military, but I was also told that we come from French Royalty, and that one of my great greats was a farrier for a Czar. I have yet to prove any of these things. That's why I posted it on this site.
Veles - | 201
16 Aug 2016 #8
I was told he HAD been in the military

Back then every man was in a military - good old times.
Bartkowiak 5 | 114
22 Sep 2016 #9
Merged: What uniform is he wearing?

What uniform is he wearing?



Veles - | 201
24 Nov 2016 #10
@Bartkowiak
I'd be guessing this man wears a uniform of the Border Protection Corps (Korpus Ochrony Pogranicza). Are you able to say in which year this photo was taken?
jhnzg - | 1
4 Mar 2018 #11
Merged:

What period is this uniform?



I have a relative in what is supposed to be a Polish military uniform. Can anyone determine what period it's from? My assumption is WWI or WWII. Also, is he a soldier or an officer? The image is the front of a postcard. The back includes what I think is his name, but it's not the name we associate with this relative. Can anyone translate it into English?





Ironside 53 | 12,424
4 Mar 2018 #12
Dude it is in English.
Above that there is Motszy which could be a surname - unlike but possible as it would be a very strange and unique surname. It could be badly spelled mlodszy i.e younger, junior.

so it could read:
Younger Wladyslaw ( a name read like Vladislav) or Wladislaw Junior.
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His uniform it is uniform the Polish Army dating 1918-1922. Cavalry uniform of an officer (but the last one is a guess, an educated guess)
TheOther 6 | 3,674
7 Mar 2018 #13
My assumption is WWI

Assume again... :)
jolexy - | 1
1 Feb 2019 #14
Merged:

Military Uniform



Hi -

Found this photo in an old family album and am hoping someone can help confirm it is a Polish military uniform, when this uniform would've been worn and any details about the markings/lines on the collar of the uniform.

Would appreciate any help.



pawian 222 | 24,370
25 May 2019 #15
any details

Those markings suggest the uniform of interwar period: 1918-1939.

See it here:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barwy_broni_i_s%C5%82u%C5%BCb_Wojska_Polskiego_II_RP

Particular kinds of troops had different markings, e,.g, artillery used green. The markings in the picture are darker than the uniform, so we can presume they are black, it may suggest sappers, among others.



Ironside 53 | 12,424
26 May 2019 #16
it is a Polish military uniform,

It is - standard 1920-1936.
PolishJones - | 3
20 Nov 2021 #17
Merged:

WW2 Uniform Identification



Hello, if anyone could help me identify what uniform the men in this photo are wearing (my grandfather is in this photo), I'd really appreciate it. Although there aren't many clues to help identify specifics, the cap badge of the man standing front-centre is visible, albeit very blurry. Thank you in advance.



pawian 222 | 24,370
20 Nov 2021 #18
the cap badge of the man standing front-centre is visible, albeit very blurry.

Too blurry, I am afraid. You need a real expert to identify it, sorry.
PolishJones - | 3
21 Nov 2021 #19
@pawian
Yes, unfortunately it would only allow me to attach a 150KB file; the original picture is sharper. I was told by family that my grandad was at Monte Cassino, but I can't find any records for him. As for an expert - do you have any advice as to who I could ask about it? I'm trying to confirm my Polish citizenship, but the Provincial Office are requesting military documents, despite the other documents I've submitted.
pawian 222 | 24,370
21 Nov 2021 #20
As for an expert - do you have any advice as to who I could ask about it?

You need to show it on another Polish forum which deals with military topics only. There are many. E..g, dws.org.pl/


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