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Why is Polish such an ugly language?


Charmouche
26 Jan 2018 #1
I wanted to like this language. But I do not like it.

To me, Polish is a very disorganized and messy language. And it sounds very coarse and ugly. And it is hard.

How do people actually speak this language?
XDeath
26 Jan 2018 #2
Oh, you know, the same way you speak in your native language. By being exposed to it since your birthday. But I do agree, that learning it from basics can be a nightmare.
Wulkan - | 3,203
26 Jan 2018 #3
And it sounds very coarse and ugly

Language is just a communication tool, doesn't have to be beautiful.

And it is hard.

That's on purpose, it scares low IQ retards to settle in Poland.
Lyzko 45 | 9,414
26 Jan 2018 #4
Apparently Charmouche, you've never taken the time, much less made the effort to understand Polish or you wouldn't offer such flip and foolish comments!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
26 Jan 2018 #5
Polish is a very disorganized and messy language.

Is it? I think it's quite logical, and the case system makes it possible to be very precise, which isn't always possible in English.

More to the point, once you learn Polish, then other Slavic languages are open to you.

That's on purpose, it scares low IQ retards to settle in Poland.

It's interesting, but the vast majority of monolingual retards I've met in Poland have all been British or American. I bloody hate the excuse "it's too difficult".
mafketis 37 | 10,880
26 Jan 2018 #6
s it? I think it's quite logical

Polish grammar only makes sense when you have a panoramic view of how it works and a fairly deep knowledge of the nuts and bolts.

English grammar only makes sense when...... never really, that's the price of so many semi-native and second langauge users, it's all but impossible to make generalizations.
NoToForeigners 9 | 998
26 Jan 2018 #7
Why are you so ugly?

I tried to like you but to me your face seems a proper "women repellent". And it's hard (to look at).

How do people live with such face actually?
Ktos 16 | 440
27 Jan 2018 #8
@Charmouche

I wanted to like you and now I idolise you, I want to be like you. Your language is what I want for myself and my family, I want us to sound like you the first thing in the morning and last thing at night. I feel sorry for you that you had to subject your delicate mind and body - especially your big, sensitive ears - to the horse like sound of the unpolished language like Polish, we definitely need to polish it more, you can help, please help us. How can you look at that ugly tongue? Ewww, my eyes hurt too. Yeah, how can we move our mouths like that, I wondered it myself, it makes us look ugly, my mouth is crooked. I joked before about you being so ugly, I was jealous. I quickly had to watch some German movie with real Germs in it moving their mouths and jaws vigorously to feel better about myself.
Wulkan - | 3,203
27 Jan 2018 #9
It's interesting, but the vast majority of monolingual retards I've met in Poland have all been British or American.

That's truth but there are far worse than that out there.

I bloody hate the excuse "it's too difficult".

So what is your excuse to do an interview for Polish radio in English after so many years of living in Poland? It's too easy? Quite laughable when pretend that you speak Polish.
Casual Observer
27 Jan 2018 #10
but the vast majority of monolingual retards I've met in Poland have all been British or American

That's not really their fault, to be fair. The teaching of languages (including English) in British schools is extremely poor. Whole generations have never been taught grammatical structure or nomenclature, just usage. So for a highly grammatical language like Polish, with the many genders etc, native English speakers are not equipped to even begin learning. First they need to self-teach themselves grammar.

It's not "too difficult", but coming from the educational baseline of most Britons, Polish is *extremely* difficult, because most don't have the linguistic tools to begin learning.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
27 Jan 2018 #11
The teaching of languages (including English) in British schools is extremely poor.

Also, haven't universities dropped a lot of language requirements? I think I remember who a person can major in Indian (Asian) studies and not have to demonstrate any ability in any Indian langauge... (not to mention degree courses in 'translation' that are carried out entirely in English.... what the?)

IME Americans like the idea of learning and speaking another language but for different reasons have little idea about how to go about it. British people, on the whole, seem ideologically opposed to the very idea and think there's something unwholesome about the whole experience (there are individual exceptions but that's the trend). the Irish and Canadians (again just my experience) tend to be a little intellectually lazy and have to be semi-forced into learning but then they're often better than Brits or Americans.
Crow 155 | 9,025
27 Jan 2018 #12
Ugly or beautiful, Polish language is the language of the future. Let`s face it.
kaprys 3 | 2,249
28 Jan 2018 #13
m.demotywatory.pl/4409101/Ten-wiersz-autorstwa-Juliana-Tuwima-to-absolutny-majstersztyk-jezykowy

Tuwim proved Polish and French may sound the same and some claim French is the most beautiful language.
I tend to disagree but then again I really like the sound of Polish. I guess it's the 'R' ;)
Crow 155 | 9,025
28 Jan 2018 #14
Tuwim proved Polish and French may sound the same and some claim French is the most beautiful language.

Yes, melodically, Polish and French are close. It is so because back in past Slavic (ie Sarmatian, ie Galic, ie Celtic) population of Galia spoke language closest to the language of Slavs (ie Sarmatian, ie Galic, ie Celtic) that would later encompass Poland`s population.

Caesar`s hike (from 58 to 50 bc) and enormous Roman genocide in Gaul, changed the situation, when in single military operation out to 3 million of Slavs (ie Gauls, ie Celts, ie Sarmatians) was massacred and killed. There are records of more then 300 exterminated clans, entire tribes extinct. Plus, great magnitude of people was sent to slavery back to Rome and allover the Roman empire, sent to slave markets allover the known world. Then, on such a weakened remaining Slavic element in Gaul, Romans introduced their administration and new settlers from already Latinized Roman speaking areas. Population mixed in every sense, in new environment and modern day French nation and language were formed. So, only in melody of language, Slavic element prevailed.

I mention this in deep honor and mourn for the fallen ancients and their lives taken in act of utter violence and injustice. I pray to God, for the right on truth, for them, for us who still live in that continuity, for our entire civilization.
Chemikiem
28 Jan 2018 #15
And it sounds very coarse and ugly

Why are you trying to learn a language that you think is coarse and ugly then?

Polish is *extremely* difficult, because most don't have the linguistic tools to begin learning.

I think there is definitely an element of that, but I think the main problem is that the languages are so different. Polish would not be extremely difficult for a speaker of another Slavic language. However I do agree that language teaching in British schools is poor. Nowhere near enough hours taught and in my opinion a language should be introduced at primary level, not secondary when it's harder to pick up.
Casual Observer
29 Jan 2018 #16
the Irish and Canadians (again just my experience) tend to be a little intellectually lazy

Irish and Canadians are brought up in a bilingual society (Gael & French), promoted in the school system, whereas the vast majority of Brits are not. They will have 1 or 2 foreign language classes a week, and can drop the subjects entirely at about age 14, so they might only ever do a couple of years or study, maybe 50-100 lessons in all. That's nowhere near enough. Brits do like the idea of learning another language, if the number and popularity of self-teach books and evening classes is anything to go by, but many don't have the basics of language education to even understand the English introduction to a language like Polish. For example, it's no good trying to learn Polish grammar if you don't have an education of things like cases, tenses and imperfect verbs. Most Brits don't get taught the names of such things in school.
ThereIsaidit
10 Mar 2019 #17
@Charmouche
I agree. The language is very coarse and ugly. I hate speaking it even though I am polish.
Lyzko 45 | 9,414
10 Mar 2019 #18
Germans utter the same slander or heresy! Yet, you all have no choice, since which tongue other than your mother tongue, have you any birthright to speak or in which to make yourselves correctly understood?

:-)
Vlad1234 17 | 894
11 Mar 2019 #19
I agree. The language is very coarse and ugly. I hate speaking it even though I am polish.

Do you think Polish needs a reform? Many languages passed through this.
Lyzko 45 | 9,414
11 Mar 2019 #20
English didn't, at least within anyone's recent memory. German did recently, but only its orthography, not its grammar:-)
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
11 Mar 2019 #21
And what if Polish went through some major reform in ortography. Would anyone find the following phrase acceptable:

'Chsząszcz bżmi w czcinie w Szczebżeszynie' ?
Lyzko 45 | 9,414
11 Mar 2019 #22
Such is part of what makes Polish Polish!! How unbearably boring this planet if all languages sounded alike,
were replaced by a sort of erstwhile failed Esperanto and had all the husk and kernel removed from it!!

Watch "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1956) and observe the horrors or homogeneity:-)


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