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jon357 74 | 21,750
23 Jun 2022 #271
Bobko Bobkovich Bobkonov is committing war crimes in streets of NYC?

Coming here with the sustained intent of existing the deliberate strategy of war crimes in the streets of Europe.

Justify the deliberate strategy that should read.

Basically promoting made murder and rape.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #272
"Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler".

Darling, you are losing time. We won`t drop those titles only because you don`t like them. They will be in use until RuSSists become civilised at last.

Where? I must have missed that.

Kania, stop playing stupid and defending confirmed and incorrigible RuSSists. It is disgusting what you are doing here. Making alliances with scum which supports war crimes. Tfu!
jon357 74 | 21,750
23 Jun 2022 #273
those titles

Don't forget Sergei Lavroll and the r*ussian general with three balls, Eugene ikabolokoff
GefreiterKania 36 | 1,397
23 Jun 2022 #274
He defends and supports an unprovoked war of aggression against a peaceful neighbor

As far as I understand from Bobko's and Velund's posts, from their point of view, the aggression was neither unprovoked nor the neighbour particularly peaceful. Regardless of whether we agree with it or not (I don't), they shouldn't be attacked for presenting their point of view. That's what internet forums are for, aren't they?

and fantasizes about genocide.

Unless you can point me to a post in which Bobko supports war crimes or "fantasizes about genocide", I will simply refuse to believe that.

He's not a good person

Who of us can honestly say that he's a good person?

"And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.", Mark 10:18

...and anyway Bobko's not too bad. I like him. Sue me.

@Iron

I've heard about a poll where 75.5% Russians said Poland should be the next target of "special operation" but not about one in which 70% wanted to nuke us. Do you have any links to that?

@pawian

Again, please point me to the post in which Bobko "supports war crimes", as I don't recall anything like that by him.

Come on, guys. We are not United Nations, we are not NATO headquarters, we are not even Sejm. We are a bunch of random people posting on an obscure tiny board with about 25 regular posters. If we can't conduct a discussion without aggression, hatred and a modicum of common decency, then what's the point? What happened to us? Wishing people death? Not making even an attempt to understand the other side? Surely we are better than that? If we can no longer talk to one another, even to our enemies, in a civilised way, then maybe, just maybe, it is indeed time for the nukes to fly? :-/

Anyways... screw you guys, I'm going to sleep.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #275
they shouldn't be attacked for presenting their point of view.

I see. In a similar fashion, you would not attack Hitler explaining his reasons for sending Jews to gas chambers. You have gone nuts completely. :):):)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #276
We won`t drop those titles only because you don`t like them.

I never said I don't like them. Learn English, professor, or give them a refund.

I said:

"That's how you detect moronic posts - by "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler".

See the difference or do you need help?

In a similar fashion, you would not attack Hitler explaining his reasons for sending Jews to gas chambers.

He never said that and the only one who has gone nuts is you.

Man, do I hate Polaks with their metaphors, insinuations, and poetry...
jon357 74 | 21,750
23 Jun 2022 #277
they shouldn't be attacked for presenting their point of view

They should, if the "point of view" is encouraging murder.

Bobko's not too bad. I like him

Pol Pot was pleasant company if you caught him on a good day. So was Idi Amin.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #278
See the difference?

Darling, do you imply you like moronic posts? :):)

poetry...

Every patriotic Pole is like Mickiewicz. You are so hateful coz you are a renegade who is drifting in the middle of Atlantic - neither Polish nor American. Ha! :):):)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #279
No. I said: "That's how you detect moronic posts - by "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler".
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #280
But you said it in frustrated fury. That means you didn`t like it. Simple. Stop this silly denial. You are no longer in a kindergarten. :):)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #281
But you said it in frustrated fury.

No. I said: "That's how you detect moronic posts - by "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler".
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #282
Stop stuttering. Go to a doctor.
Bobko 25 | 1,920
23 Jun 2022 #283
@pawian

I am curious - what age group do you teach? Do you have any opportunities to share with your students the full breadth and depth of your love of Russia? Do you tell them about Russian ethnogenesis in the Gobi Desert?

Just wondering if Polish kids even get a chance before they are programmed to view Russians as ubermenschen.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #284
what age group do you teach? Do you tell them

I am not going to tell you. Satisfy your open-source intelligence needs somewhere else. :):)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #285
But you said it in frustrated fury.

What specific words make...

"That's how you detect moronic posts - by "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler".

...express "frustrated fury"?

I see only "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler" - all yours or other Russia-hating nuts.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #286
...express "frustrated fury"?

Darling, whenever you resort to "moronic"name calling, it means you are frustrated and furious. Simple. We know you too well.

This thread is starting to wander off course
Miloslaw 19 | 4,642
23 Jun 2022 #287
We know you too well

We do Rich.

Why do you love Russians?

It's a simple question.

Please give a simple answer.
pawian 221 | 23,970
23 Jun 2022 #288
If we can no longer talk to one another, even to our enemies, in a civilised way,

That`s what RuSSists insist on and expect Europeans to stick to. At the same time they believe they are entitled to behave like Mongol barbarians.

NO, Kania. It is time to put a stop to Mongols by saying directly what they are and where they belong.

As I said, you could have talked to Hitler in this civilised manner. Stalin and other mass murderers too. Are you sure?
Miloslaw 19 | 4,642
23 Jun 2022 #289
It is time to put a stop to Mongols by saying directly what they are and where they belong

Agreed 100 %.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,739
23 Jun 2022 #290
As I said, you could have talked to Hitler in this civilised manner.

But we are not talking with Hitler or Stalin here, not even with Putin himself, that's the point.

Where starting to discuss things and yes, learning WHY someone does what he does if not through TALKING?

If you had the chance to talk with some real living Gefreiter back then and maybe make him think twice about what happens because of Hitler and the Nazis and what he is actually part of, would you still keep hitting him with insults and humiliate his pride? What would change that?

Maybe with talking boards like PF and Internet back then the catastrophe even could have avoided....but for that it would need people never giving up the talking with the "other" like Torqi!

Don't forget, such internet forum isn't only between the actual posters....these messages are read by countless others who might not take part actively, but where else do you get the chance to influence their thoughts and impressions through your argumentation like this?

And longterm arguments will always win over insults!
jon357 74 | 21,750
23 Jun 2022 #291
But we are not talking with Hitler or Stalin here, not even with Putin himself, that's the point.

We're talking with someone who has come here to justify r*ssia's ongoing atrocities and doing this in real time.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,739
23 Jun 2022 #292
....a good starting point for discussions! :)

But even if we could sow the seeds of doubt why should he admit it? What would it bring him in a hostile forum? More mockery and denigration?

The more he is attacked (not for his political views) but for his "Russianness", the more he feels the need to defend his home country for his whole history, how good to you believe would the chances become of him changing his point of view concerning Putin and Ukraine?
AntV 5 | 586
23 Jun 2022 #293
And longterm arguments will always win over insults!

Amen! A-freaking-men!

would you still keep hitting him with insults and humiliate his pride? What would change that?

A-freaking-men, again!

but for that it would need people never giving up the talking with the "other" like Torqi!

Can I get another amen?!?!

do we want to find ways to solve problems that lead to a tolerable environmemt or just continually perpetuate grievances and seek retribution? This idea that Russia is an irredeemable bunch of Slavic barbarians will only perpetuate grievances.

Certainly this unjust invasion should be condemned and confronted, but all of this dispatching Russia and Russians to the frozen wilderness outside the civilized world is self-righteous pride that could end up biting us in the ass down the road.

* off soapbox
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #294
all of this dispatching Russia to the frozen wilderness is self-righteous pride that could end up biting us in the ass down the road.

1. Amen
2. Memo to the a-holes who are into "dispatching Russia": DIY and fu*ck off of "America". We owe you sh*it.

Darling, whenever you resort...

...to calling Russians and Putin "Mongols", "barbarians", "RuSS", and "Putler" I know I am dealing with irrelevant Polaks on the US military welfare and oh so brave hiding behind American pants and skirts.

So, why don't you adjust your lexicon to your reality of being nothing but a royal pain in America's ass.
AntV 5 | 586
23 Jun 2022 #295
@GefreiterKania

Post #278 gets a basketful of amens, as well!

programmed to view Russians as ubermenschen

Yeah, and that's the problem. I think your President is 90% sh!t and 10% admirable but, for crying out loud, Russians have plenty of redeeming qualities, except the Russian who replaced my roof-he has none (but that's another story)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
23 Jun 2022 #296
Anyways... screw you guys, I'm going to sleep.

For this, he gets an extra one from me.
GefreiterKania 36 | 1,397
24 Jun 2022 #297
@Bratwurst Boy, @AntV

Cheers, guys. I knew I wasn't alone on this one. :)

@Novichok

You're not that bad either. Perhaps my "A" warning that I got some time ago was justified after all. ;) No hard feelings.
Bobko 25 | 1,920
24 Jun 2022 #298
A little news digest for the "Russia's Collapsing" team.

Yesterday, Putin participated in his first summit with foreign leaders since the start of the war. He joined the leaders of Brazil, India, China and South Africa at the annual BRICS summit. Link to article:

cnn.com/2022/06/22/asia/brics-summit-china-russia-beijing-2022-intl-hnk-mic/index.html

So much for isolation.

Special item for Jon, here:

bbc.com/news/world-africa-61802498

A BBC article titled "How Russia Outflanked Ukraine in Africa". Add another 50 countries to the list of nations that don't subscribe to the West's interpretation of events.

A funny article for the Witnesses of St. Javelin and the Pious Bayraktar. The title is "Turkey's Wartime Bridge to the West is Collapsing". The eggheads at the Atlantic Council ruefully observe that after what seemed a promising start in February, Turkey is now definitively tilting towards supporting Russia. The chance to get in the good books of the US and "on the right side of history" may be squandered, the analysts worry.

atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/turkeysource/turkeys-wartime-bridge-to-the-west-is-collapsing/

Finally to round things out, Pope Francis thinks this war may have been provoked (the news is a little old, but just in case).

theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/14/pope-francis-ukraine-war-provoked-russian-troops

Quote from article:
[...] the pontiff condemned the "ferocity and cruelty of the Russian troops" while warning against what he said was a fairytale perception of the conflict as good versus evil.

"We need to move away from the usual Little Red Riding Hood pattern, in that Little Red Riding Hood was good and the wolf was the bad one," he said. "Something global is emerging and the elements are very much entwined."


Heeeeey, maybe this Kania guy is onto something. The Pope seems to be reading his PF posts.
pawian 221 | 23,970
24 Jun 2022 #299
why don't you adjust

Darling. why don`t you settle this matter within your own country with people who lead it??? Influence your government and Pres to keep away from European brawls to save you time and money. Leave Poland alone , we are not the cause of your distress. :):)

irrelevant but a royal pain

You are contradicting yourself now. :):):)
jon357 74 | 21,750
24 Jun 2022 #300
"How Russia Outflanked Ukraine in Africa".

Bribery and threats.

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