WWII - who really was the first to help Poland?

If you didn't know nations attitude change also...

Well, to be sure there were Polish formations of troops (divisions...lots of troops) that fought and were supplied by the British. Polish pilots fought in the Battle of Britain and contributed to the British War Effort. Tank Divisions, Infantry Divisions, Paratroopers (see Battle of Arnhem), I believe even some polish ships made it to England to continue the war.

Polish underground supplied the allies with the V-2 Plans, the codebook for the Enigma machine.

But near the end of WW2, Stalin wanted Poland for his own "Eastern Bloc". The allies weary of war gave in and Poland along with all those who fought for the British Army (If I recall correctly it was over 100,000 men) were sold out.

Several leaders of the Polish Army in exile were unfortunately killed in plane accidents after the war....

hmmmmm....

anyways.

The real answer to your question, is in the end no one. They started with good intentions....but....

You mean that they were given homes, jobs, passports, the chance to have their families brought over and all the rest, yes they were sold out. Quite unlike the soldiers of Poland's 1920s ally, Western Ukraine, those guys were locked up in internment camps after their country was sold to the Soviets for 120 million roubles.

WWII - who really was the first to help Poland.

The Danzig corridor towns were the first to fall under German invasion. My father's home town was captured by the invaders within 30 minutes of WW2 starting.

Afterwards a bizarre helper of the resident Poles in the Danzig corridor was Gauleiter Albert Forster who provided a lifeline for many Polish families by allowing them to register as 'Volks Deutsche' which enabled many Poles to avoid deportation and to survive the worst of the disgusting butchery of the Hans Frank regime in the rest of German occupied Poland.

Albert Forster. A most unusual Nazi en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Forster

Most unusual in his participation in massacres of Pleśnica or in sending people to Stutthoff?

I hope this will clear your doubts of every single commentaries you have heard before but the botton line is who really was the first to help Poland in ww2,,,IT WAS THE RED ARMY (RUSSIA) in 1944,,,the need to liberate Poland from the Naziz for them to continue as they plan...but honest truth,,,It was the red army who got there first and also the polish resistance helped a lot and the russians didnt join them,,,hope this will take all your doubts and everything else you hear maybe truth , maybe not but the fact is ,,,the russians where the first to help poland,,have a nice day,,,a friend,,,george

i didnt read whole topic so sorry if this was said already but
first to help us were hungarians, :D not in the military way tho
but they help us only for sole purpose of helping
Thanks Huns!!

I love how everyone here is stating opinions. First off I hear all of this "Poland blaming everyone" ********. Well considering that France and Germany had a pact with Poland stating that if Germany were to attack Poland France and Britain would come to her aid, and that Poland would only have to fight a defensive war for 2 weeks. Britain and France were also idiots for idolizing appeasement, not taking advantage of the fact that they had 72 divisions in the West whilst the Germans only had 36. So I think that is a MAJOR reason for Germany being able to expand its borders. Germany wasn't some kind of ultra superpower, Hitler preyed on the UK's and France's lack of determination and courage. All this crap I hear about France and UK fighting so honorably HAHA, they only fought when they were attacked. Whoever says Russia helped Poland must be completely retarded. If not for the Soviet offensive into Poland on September 17th the Poles would be able to carry out a long defense of the Romanian bridgehead. Ever hear of the Katyn massacre, one of many? Yea that should explain just how much the Soviets "helped" Poland. The U.S helped Poland how exactly? Not one American soldier fought in Poland. They sold Poland along with the rest of Eastern Europe to the Soviets setting the stage for the Cold War. The reason Germany even BECAME a power is because of the allied powers'(from world war 1) failure to enforce the Treaty of Versaille. Germany was rearming for YEARS and France, Britain, and the U.S had failed to do anything. If only they had sent troops and forced Germany to stop rearming world war 2 would never have even happened. It's funny how you call this "blaming" people, it's fact that the allies failed to enforced the Treaty of Versaille. Eastern Europe is where the war was really the worst. In comparison to the Eastern Front the West had so-called "scraps". The Americans praise a 10-day Battle of the Bulge. HAHA, ever hear of Stalingrad or the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. I am in no way praising Russia either.

Tell me, who declared war on whom at the beginning of WW2?

Really....


Huns were allies of the other huns, ya know? In BOTH wars! ;)
They didn't came to Polands rescue...

Ja, ja - you know that they really did help us, BB - you read my threads/post about
it on this forum. In case you missed the one in Polish-speaking section, use some
online translator and check it...

polishforums.com/rozmowy-po-polsku-41/wojska-wegierskie-podczas-powstania-warszawskiego-43927/

...Long Live The Eternal Polish - Hungarian Brotherhood!

Lengyel, magyar - két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát!
Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki!

Yeah...but he *points to poster* didn't know my statement yet...so you see...I had to! ;)

Ha! I've noticed that you are trying to empty the endless Ocean of Polish-Hungarian
Friendship with a German teaspoon - you, my Teutonic friend, are doomed to fail :)

Don't I know it...*takes surrogate helmet and slinks out of thread* :(

HAHAHAHAHAH, this is your argument? Yes they declared war but they didn't do **** to help the Poles as they agreed to do. Not one British or French soldier took part in the September campaign. Just declaring war didn't help save millions of people. As I said, if Britain and France had taken advantage of the fact that they outnumbered the ?Germans greatly in the West then Germany would have to halt its invasion of Poland to defend its borders, and the Soviet Union would probably not attack. Now of course WW2 is Germany's fault, however Britain, France, and the U.S allowed Germany to grow to such a strength. I said they only FOUGHT when they were attacked. They didn't actually send troops until they were attacked you dumb****.

PolishPatriot

hahaha,this is your argument..[

now,let me see my Polish chum.


No,really? Is that because the British soldiers were in,well,Britain and even in 2010 you couldn't get a brigade to Poland in less than 2 weeks never mind an army still mobilising faced with steam trains and paddle steamers as transport.

Which route would you suggest then for the British in 1939? Through the straits of Denmark into the Baltic(where your own navy had buggered out of before the war started) or straight through Nazi Germany??

How about the French then,a nation devastated in a war with Germany 20 years earlier also mobilising its forces,do you think Hitler would maybe have let the French use the German railways for a small commission?...


Doesn't matter how many times you say it,doesn't make it true on paper or in reality. No significant British forces were in continental Europe on sept 1st so you can only count the French forces who themselves,like Poland's forces ,were only just mobilising.Any pre German invasion mobilisations were discouraged so as not to provoke an invasion....


erm,Poland is and was a hell of a lot closer to Germany than Britain and the US,WTF did you lot do to prevent the rise of Hitlers pseudo military dictatorship? Oh yes,had a right wing Dictatorship of your own largely staffed by pro German anti communists. Go on,tell us again how Poland cracked the enigma code,please do........( Poland helped crack one specific type of basic code with the invention of the bombe de cyphering machine,the great leaps in actually breaking the more important codes came with joint Polish British French code breakers working together.By the time of ww2 however the originally cracked code was well out of date and no longer in use by the Germans....but why burden you with the truth,like "patriots" everywhere you dont do truth you do a mix of arrogant swagger and mawkish self pity,get a life(and a few good history books.)


Oh deary me.....so lets see the RAF raids on heiligoland bight etc etc,the French incursions into the Saar etc,all pre may 1940, you know,1940 when France,Belgium and Holland were attacked(note,not Britain,but you know what,thousands of British troops fought the Germans then) ooh,or Norway,where French and British troops fought the Germans.....

So,in summery,I think its safe to say that if anyone here deserves the title


it would be ,er,you.

Without the Brits declaring war on Germany, Poland most likely wouldn't exist today.

Dont forget the French. "We" wouldn't have declared war without the French doing so too,albeit a few hours after Britain,but hey,its 71 years ago now and we're all friends again.

If you can call it it that.. they lost damn near every ground battle against the Wehrmacht. They did win the battle of FDR's liquor cabinet though.

Poland would've been fine like it is today. Brits did nothing.

Just imagine that both the UK and France would've ignored the hostile actions of Germany and the USSR against Poland. Do you really think that Poland would've survived as a country? I have my doubts.

Im sorry Yank,when exactly did the US join the fight against the nazis,Oh yes,AFTER hitler declared war on you AFTER the japs had attacked you.


hhmm,lets see,
1940
Arras( brits1,germany nil)
Dunkirk campaign(score draw,forced rematch next season)
USA not competing
1941
Tobruk(brits 1,germany nil)
Tobruk ,re match (germany 1,brits nil)
USA not competing.
1942
Alamain(brits 1,germany nil)
Kasserine pass (Germany 1,USA nil)
1943
Salerno(Brits 1,germany nil)
Anzio(Germany 1,USA nil)
1944
Normandy
Brits v Hitlers finest SS ,panzer truupen etc
US v hitlers second line infantry...
Walcheren (Brits 1,germanynil)
Bulge (Germany 1,USA nil( cept the battered basta rds"Rendevous with destany!")
Bit immature aint you pete ole buddy,guess you aint a Harvard man....

LOL, sure about that, brown tooth? Probably Cambridge doesn't invite you back for tea and scones either.


Yawwwnn.. Uhhh. .. WE DON'T LIVE IN EUROPE, Limey. For the 600th time. You got enough of us killed in WWI. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DIE FOR YOU AGAIN. Yet another time.. your glorious EMPIRE needed bailed out by colonials. It's not our fault you can't get along.. as soon as we leave Europe , you'll be doing the same stuff to each other. Just like you've done for centuries and centuries. Still want to lecture me on "swathe of destruction"?? **cough.. ** cough.. .

Look, I know you've been drunk since breakfast.. in your smelly little flat.. but c'mon with this crap. Please the Wehrmacht kicked you a$$es up and down the forest.. heather and glen.

Battle of FDR's Liquor Cabinet 1939:

Churchill - 57 US - 0

clearly we didnt....

The hell you didn't , clown. As a European??

And a more perfect example of yanks inability to understand subtle humour you couldnt ask for.



followed by the,didnt get the implication that clearly we didnt get enough yanks killed to wipe out petes family line before it degraded into him...


ho hum,bless,stick to adam sandlar and fart jokes.....

.. or Benny Hill smacking an old man's head? Queer spam song from MP?

You aesthete you.

erm,Benny hill hasn't been shown in this country for at least 25 years now,however I understand its still very popular in the US....hhmmm.

Probably because it hasn't been overdubbed in Urdu.

Poland was the first to help itself.

Without Brits giving guarantee to Poland which clearly they wouldn't been able to fulfil - Germans most likely wouldn't attack Poland.