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State People in early Poland?


archiwum 13 | 125
28 Dec 2012 #1
In early Poland there were a people know as the state people. Who are they?
kcharlie 2 | 165
28 Dec 2012 #2
Never heard of them. "State people" doesn't tell me much. It sounds like it could be a tribe, or a profession, or a social position...

Is that a translation of a Polish term or a proper noun?

I vaguely recall that the Poles arose from various, related West Slavic tribes, one of which called themselves Polanie. Incidentally, there may have been an East Slavic tribe who went by the same name, and they became the Ukrainians. But my memory is fuzzy, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this information. All I know is that at least in the tribal context, "state people" rings no bells.

Care to provide some more information?
OP archiwum 13 | 125
30 Dec 2012 #3
KCharlie,

I thought maybe convicts, or nobility.
pawian 161 | 9,971
30 Dec 2012 #4
I thought maybe convicts, or nobility.

How about shedding some light on the context of state people, huh???
kcharlie 2 | 165
31 Dec 2012 #5
Where did you hear about these people?
johnb121 4 | 184
31 Dec 2012 #6
I used google translate to translate from english to polish and back to english, which gave me "people state". I wonder if the OP is referring to the commonwealth?
kcharlie 2 | 165
31 Dec 2012 #7
I don't know. In English, the adjective comes before the noun. In Spanish, it comes after the noun. In Polish, both word orders are common. I wouldn't rely too much on machine translation.
OP archiwum 13 | 125
2 Jan 2013 #8
Pawian,

Location I'm thinking of is Podlachia.
pawian 161 | 9,971
2 Jan 2013 #9
Location I'm thinking of is Podlachia.

The only thing that comes to my mind is that peasants in past Poland could belong to the king, church or landlord. If they belonged to king, they were called royal subjects. Not far from state people.
jon357 63 | 14,254
2 Jan 2013 #10
Never a good idea to rely on Google Translate etc. what was the phrase you translated into Polish then back to English.


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