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Will Poland rebuild classical buildings?


JakeRyan16candle
17 Jan 2021 #1
Will Polish architects start rebuilding the great buildings from the past?
reddit.com/r/ArchitecturalRevival/comments/kybyrv/these_two_lovely_buildings_in_potsdam_germany/
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,630
17 Jan 2021 #2
Hopefully! To much beauty and history was destroyed during the wars....
Novichok - | 2,027
17 Jan 2021 #3
Was destroyed? Active voice is more appropriate in this sentence. Would you like to rephrase it?
Tacitus 2 | 1,228
17 Jan 2021 #4
To much beauty and history was destroyed during the wars.

Indeed. Whenever I visit Dresden, I can't help but feel a tinge of sadness, because no matter how good it looks now, it will never be as it once was.

Still I appreciate any effort to rebuild historical, particulary if they can become a tourist destination. I've read that the the building in Potsfam that became museum has become a tourist magnet.
mafketis 24 | 9,361
17 Jan 2021 #6
I visit Dresden, I can't help but feel a tinge of sadness

Could be worse.... I remember back in the 1980s in Poland I happened to meet some American tourists who'd just been in the DDR... they said Dresden was the most depressing city they'd ever been in (and they had traveled a fair amount in the third world).

I had a similar response in Constanta, Romania.... the old town could look amazing but it was so neglected, beautiful old buildings just kind of rotting all over the place...
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,630
17 Jan 2021 #7
The GDR in the 80's was visible decaying!

What a change to today....
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
17 Jan 2021 #8
Dresden

At the time of the Yalta agreement, Polish Bomber pilots had their sidearms removed by British officers, because Poland had been sold to the soviets.

Bitter times for Polish aircrews and the citizens of Dresden.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Poloniusz 4 | 601
17 Jan 2021 #9
Dresden...will never be as it once was.

Is that Germany's fault or Britain's fault?

any effort to rebuild historical, particulary if they can become a tourist destination

A complete waste of time. Tourists want an authentic experience when they go to a foreign country. After all they are spending time and money for it.

The reality is that Germany will be an increasingly empty disappointment when all the locals are nothing more than a mishmash of mad cow Merkel's "new Germans".

Indeed, it won't be long before German ancestry goes back no further than guest workers from the 1960s at best and will have no pride in anything or anyone that came before it.

Tourists might as well go to Disneyland for the same experience or build their own inauthentic experience like they do in China.


Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,630
17 Jan 2021 #10
Shouldn't Poles support that development? After all the bad experiences with the "original" Germans over the centuries....maybe the "new Germans" will be better for Poland?
Poloniusz 4 | 601
17 Jan 2021 #11
Shouldn't Poles support that development?

Not as long as Poland stays in the EU.

As if it wasn't bad enough already, the new Germans and their offspring will in time only be interested in their own personal roots outside of Germany and even beyond Europe. This is what is occurring now in the United States with its black and latin populations.

This will be bad for Poland in the long run. Not just with freedom of movement and open border policies but with distribution of EU funds as well.

If the new Germans don't change Poland demographically then they will certainly have a say in saying no to funding when it comes to preserving Poland's landmarks and continuing its culture since they literally won't relate to it.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,630
17 Jan 2021 #12
...aaaaaw...you like us original Germans...admit it!!! :)
Poloniusz 4 | 601
17 Jan 2021 #13
Only if you are kept in a kennel or on a leash.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,272
17 Jan 2021 #15
Is that Germany's fault or Britain's fault?

I've recently watched a documentary saying that the Allies (I think specifically the Americans) missed their targets in Dressden as instead of dropping bombs on the industrial areas of the town as it had been planned beforehand, they sort of unintenionally dropped them onto the old town. The result was they turned the old town into ashes overnight ...
Novichok - | 2,027
17 Jan 2021 #16
The bombing of Dresden was a success. The Allies killed 25,000 Germans and lost only 7 bombers.
jon357 66 | 16,977
18 Jan 2021 #17
Will Polish architects start rebuilding the great buildings from the past?

Largely no, due to costs and tastes. There's a project to rebuild (part of) the Saxon Palace in Warsaw however it is taking a long time. People here prefer skyscrapers right now.

There are plenty of neo-classical (and similar) mansions in the countryside that are shells and will probably stay like that. Nowe Miasto nad Pilicą is a good example. There are even more that are in poor structural condition and often have disputed ownership.
OP JakeRyan16candle
19 Jan 2021 #18
Whenever I visit Dresden, I can't help but feel a tinge of sadness,

Honestly, I feel sadder for Poland. Germany has enough money and obviously is restoring more than Poland can do. Poland suffered more architectural loss and unfortunately new architects in Poland prefer post-modernism for some reason (Swedish design influence?). They aren't going to attract tourist money or businesses with soulless glass structures. There's a reason everyone prefers visiting Krakow to Warsaw. The least Polska can do is attract tourism money to the little-known preserved towns like Przemysl.
Novichok - | 2,027
19 Jan 2021 #19
They aren't going to attract tourist money or businesses with soulless glass structures.

Grafitti will finish the job and repel the few who would be inclined to visit Warsaw again. That is why I like visiting state Capitols here with no unauthorized art and no aluminum.
jon357 66 | 16,977
19 Jan 2021 #20
towns like Przemysl.

It's not near anywhere, the architecture is mostly pedestrian and the place is run down. Zamość is worth visiting but again, not near anywhere so it has to be a special journey.

They aren't going to attract tourist money or businesses with soulless glass structures.

They're not all soulless and tourist money is a marginal thing compared to the profits of the companies in the new offices. What would you rather sell, cars and petrol or souvenirs and postcards?

Warsaw actually does well for tourism, mostly city breaks. Kraków however has been spoilt by it.
Zanko
19 Jan 2021 #21
The WWII museum in Gdansk is not an office though. Many Jewish and Polish American tourists told me they feel offended by its brutalist looks. They also told me they liked Southern Poland better.

They cite the terrain not being as flat, closeness to mountains, better food, many architecture surprises aside from Krakow.

They also like the proximity to Czechia, Slovakia, Ukraine and even Hungary is not too far. Hopefully Via Carpathia will give more life to the region. What do you get around Warsaw - endless flatlands and just Belarus, for Szczecin again flatness and just Germany, aside from Berlim the worst parts of it. Mielec, Katowice, Szczucin, Nowy Sącz, Sanok etc.

All tourists I speak about Poland cite they like the parts south of the Wroclaw - Lublin latitude more (save for Trojmiasto).
Novichok - | 2,027
19 Jan 2021 #22
Many Jewish and Polish American tourists

Not a logical sentence. Many Jewish and Catholic American tourists would be correct.
jon357 66 | 16,977
20 Jan 2021 #23
The WWII museum in Gdansk

There's much more to see in Gdańsk than that. Plus, of the tourism money that's spent in Gdansk, most is from visitors from around Europe rather than further away.

What do you get around Warsaw - endless flatlands

Indeed, however Warsaw tourism is about city breaks specifically. A small minority of visitors may take in Bialowieża or Żelazowa Wola however they're a tiny minority. Most tourism in Warsaw is weekend visits from people who don't go outside the city.


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