Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations?

Where did the jew's declare war against the Germans in 1933. Provide some backup.

what the link to article not good enough for you?

a) It's not exacltly what one would refer to as 'reliable source'.
b) The jist of the article is that some Jews predicted that the Third Reich would not be a good place for Jews. Well, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, etc sure proved them wrong, eh?!

c) I love the way that the article rants about Zionists, for some reason it reminds me of a certain few people on PF.....

here you ho harry

guardian.150m.com/jews/jews-declare-war.htm

a) Thanks but Holocaust denial sites are, by definition, not reliable sources.

b) The jist of the page is that some Jews predicted that the Third Reich would not be a good place for Jews. Well, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, etc sure proved them wrong, eh?!

c) I love the way that the website rants about Zionists, for some reason it reminds me of a certain few people on PF.....

What next Marek? Holocaust denial?

Somebody call a doctor.


I can think of a number of better employers for a person of Jewish descent at that period in time. You know, the ones that didn't send you on an unpaid holiday to Auschwitz once they found out you were a Jew...


Pretty much. It hardly took Sherlock Holmes to figure that out.

A doctor won't help in this case I'm afraid, Midas. Call an undertaker, 'cuz the bloke's just about brain dead.

the fact are that Jews declare economical war on Germany a country in depression, economical war is as bad as shooting war in economical war you let people starve to dead in shooting war you kill the end effect is the same. as to Holocaust Jews corner the issue as there ware no other that suffer like Poles, Gypsies, Russians. I can say this, Jews monopolize the Holocaust and use to take advantage and to kill all discussion of truth then they use it to pass laws in Europe to stop discussion of Holocaust.

Look what they are doing to Palestinians,Jewss createdbiggesttghettoo and slowly exterminateindigenouse people, they useHamss asexcusee after creating it yes Israel createdHamss look it up.

"Economical war" in English suggests intentional battle against the majority business at all levels during the period prior to Hitler's rise. To suggest once again that it was the Jews' fault is of course patent, unsubstantiated nonsense. That Jews since the late Middle Ages were FORCED by the Christians into money lending, i.e being pawnbrokers, often necessitating possibly usurous rates in order to survive, scarcely points to Europe's woes being the fault of the Jews, if, as has been attested, the Jews wanted to become part of society, only not as Christians, but to be allowed to practice the Jewish faith in the privacy of their own homes.

I'll cut you some slack that expressing yourself in a second language may not be showing you off in the best light possible. Perhaps your argumentation would sound better in the originalLOL

if you want NONSENSE do not blame Germans what happen toJewss blame God as he is all knowing and blaha blaha blaha ......
you do not have to cut anything just think for yourself, I am not excusing for what Hitler did I am stating facts what happen, I am giving you facts available but not mention in media nor anywhere, and if someone points it out the person is dismissed a Holocaus deniere and antisemiticte.

If a person holds up holocaust denying sources as the absolute truth (as you have done), that person should not be too surprised when other people point out that the sources deny the Holocaust happened. But do feel very free to lie about having been called a Holocaust denier yourself.

Anyone, either Jew or gentile, (not necessarily Christian either, for as we all know, the Muslim Jihaddists are the most virultent anti-Jewish groups today, NOT the Europeans!) who flatly tries to assuage the ultimate horror and severity of the Shoah is on the side of the deniers, rather than on the side of truth.

People sending innocents to gas chambers, thousands a day, practically six million human beings, G_d's creations?? What is this other than the most unspeakable barbarism?! As those here speaking in favor of 'facts', such as Panie Marku etc.. have never lost anyone in the Holocaust, their words ring hollow as their lack of experience colors their false judgements and misstatements.

I do not what happen I have question like this Harry

youtube.com/watch?v=6w3v-rJMo44&feature=player_embedded#

Marek11111, what does this last sentence mean?

Amy Goodman interviews a former Israeli minister and she helps expose this trick used against dissidents, the defamation tactic of calling people "anti-Semitic."

youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA&feature=player_embedded

That certain Jews instinctively step on the panic button 'anti-semite'/'Nazi' as almost a knee-jerk reaction to ANYONE criticizing Israel, I will say is a historically justified overreaction. As the late director Fritz Lang once remarked in this post-Kafka age: "Often times we're actually NOT being paranoid, we in fact ARE being persecuted!"

-:)

This is a problem, Lyzko, by calling legitimate criticizisms of the Zionist entity's brutality and racism "anti-Semitism" you are cheapening the term anti-Semitism and aiding real anti-Semites in their quest to make all Jews suspect as a nation of reflexive liars. Have you heard the fable of the boy who cried wolf?

The problem is that the criticism is often thinly-veiled anti-semitism.

It's not hard to figure out if someone is a Communist (or simply spouting Marxist slogans) and is criticising "zionism" and using all the buzzwords from the 1960's - then they most probably do have an anti-semitic agenda.

Lyko was talking about criicisms that are not in truth anti-Semitic and so you are rudely butting into a conversation and bringing up something else. You need a courses in both etiquette and logic, delphiandomine.


Are you accussing me of being a Communist? I am not a Communist and you have some real cheek to claim that I am using "buzzwords" from the 1960's, when you are using laughably stupid red-baiting tactics from the 1950's! Do you even think about what you write before you post it?

Des Essientes, who's the wolf in your scenario? Considering there really WAS a wolf in the Aesop story, the shepherd boy could attest to a clear and present danger. Same with the Jews. Is everybody who finds fault with the Israeli government or with certain indivicual Jews who are greedy pigs an "anti-semtic Nazi" etc....??? Obviously not!! However, there is that ever fine line between playing the Devil's advocate and truly rooting for the"wrong" side. If I criticize George Soros for being a scum, I'm clearly NOT attacking all Jews, even though, yes, Soros is (at least by birth) scion of Jewish parents. All I'd be saying is that I find his policies repugnant simply because of what they are, rather than because he happens to be Jewish.

While I'm the last person to say that Jews are The Chosen People who can do no wrong, it's equally true that history's unfairly singled them out for ridicule and torture, usually owing to plain miscinceptions about them. They can do as much wrong as the next group. There are Holocaust survivors who are selfless models of sacrifice and humanity as there are (unfortunately) those who misuse their status as survivors and bilk the very system which tries to help them.

Real anti-Semites are the wolves and those calling anti-racist people, who criticize Zionism's racist aspects, "anti-Semites" are not only lying they are also doing the Zionist entity a disservice as well, because unless the Zionist entity becomes less racist it will continue to be attacked and by silencing legitimate critics with false accusations of anti-Semitism the disingenous are thereby helping to ensure that the Zionist entity does not change its racist ways and thereby prolonging the Zionist entity's status as a pariah state under attack.

Anti-racism has actually throughout the decades had some very nasty anti-semitism attached to it - a nice example here -

philosemitism.blogspot.com/2011/12/belgian-government-anti-racist-outfit.html


And from the same site, a quote by Yves Leterme, former Prime Minister of Belgium.

If anti-racism were "anti-Semitic" than it is not truly "anti-racism" because anti-Semitism is a form of racism.

The blog you have linked to is biased joke, delphiandomine, look at the following claim it makes:


The "best democracies" grant human and political rights to all of the people they rule, not just to people from a certain religion. The Zionist entity in Palestine applied military laws to its non-Jewish Arab population from its start in 1948 until 1966, and then in 1967 it conquered more territory, in a war of aggression, and the non-Jewish inhabitants of this conquered territory have been under military rule since, nor have the non-Jews in that conquered territory been given citizenship, or the right to vote, despite having been ruled by this "democracy" for over 43 years! Democracies must enfranchise all the adults under their sway, or they are not "the best in democracy" nor are they really democracies at all.

just face this one fact you would not have anti-Semitism with out a Semitism

Perhaps you support the guy who tried to find a 'final solution'...

Um. There's no secret meeting of Semites. I think you're looking for the much overused "Zionism".

Marek's post:

There's no Jewish conspiracy. I think you're confusing this with Zionism.

I tried my best to "translate" your English, Marku. Is tha above what you meant to post, as I'm still a little confused:-))

Let me explain to you Lyzko or whatever your name is since you have problem comprehending my statement
If Jews ware not discriminating against other people they would not be discriminated against.

"...Lyzko, or whatever your name is.."

Marek to you:-)) Or whatever YOUR name is, as long as you're blaming Jews, blame too your Catholic Church for discriminating against the Jews for no other reason than because they aren't Christian! Had local nobles gradually integrated the Jews into mainstream European society, the rest of history would have played out very differently. But no, the Church insisted on conversion at any cost! Jews are like anyone else. We wanted acceptance, acknowledgment from our neighbors the same as anybody, but the Church set a bad precedent from the start! Only Pope Jan Paweł cam closest of any Christian cleric in apologizing for a thousand years of discrimination. Sadly, it was too little, far too late.