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Interactive map of Poland 960-2004


delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #31
typical Polonophobic garbage

What, to mention that Poland invaded Czechoslovakia over absolutely nothing in 1968?

Funny how the usual suspects label anything bad as "Polonophobic" rather than being what it was.
jon357 74 | 22,051
24 Aug 2012 #32
Yes, I see. What does it have to do with shooting at anyone ?

Pay close attention to the tank. Notice there is no sign of a flower in the gun barrel.

What, to mention that Poland invaded Czechoslovakia over absolutely nothing in 1968?

Funny how the usual suspects label anything bad as "Polonophobic" rather than being what it was.

And think that people don't notice. They are worth more than that sort of ****.
Harry
24 Aug 2012 #33
Zaolzie terrain:
caption IX 1918, XII 1918 in Polish hands
since caption II 1918 in Czech's till caption III 1939.

Funny how that version leaves out tiny details such as Poland exercising sovereign rule over disputed territory in 1919 when it had agreed not to and Poland agreed in 1920 that the territory in question was part of Czechoslovakia.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
24 Aug 2012 #34
What, to mention that Poland invaded Czechoslovakia over absolutely nothing in 1968?

Yes.

Pay close attention to the tank.

I did.

Notice there is no sign of a flower in the gun barrel.

No, it isn't there... and ?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #35
Funny how that version leaves out tiny details such as Poland exercising sovereign rule over disputed territory in 1919 when it had agreed not to and Poland agreed in 1920 that the territory in question was part of Czechoslovakia.

To be fair, we all know that Poland's word was absolutely worthless during the II RP. For all the whining about alleged breaking of treaties that they do, they conveniently forget about who they stabbed in the back before.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
24 Aug 2012 #36
Before you open your filthy mouth, go learn some history. Poland had permission of Czechoslovakia's gov for 1938 annexation.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #37
Poland had permission of Czechoslovakia's gov for 1938 annexation.

I suggest you look up the definition of "duress". Not legally binding in any sense.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
24 Aug 2012 #38
LOL ! The same could be said about 1920 agreement but "somehow" for it it was perfectly valid.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
24 Aug 2012 #39
Poland had permission of Czechoslovakia's gov for 1938 annexation.

Formally yes, but no one will ever believe that the Czechoslovak government acted volontarily in conceding to the Polish demand of giving them Zaolzie in 1938.

Contrary to that, Britain and France had volontarily signed the Treaty of Munich with Adolf Hitler which gave way to the annexation of the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany in March 1938.

Or am I wrong saying that Britain and France signed the Munich Pact with Adolf the Great volontarily and without any pressure from external circumstances?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
24 Aug 2012 #40
Or am I wrong saying that Britain and France signed the Munich Pact with Adolf the Great volontarily and without any pressure from external circumstances?

Nope, I'd say you're right. Chamberlain's words make it crystal clear, after all. I'm also sure that it was supported by many people who remembered the previous war.

I have no problem with admitting this, so why do certain elements of Polish society have problems with admitting the dark aspects of the past, too?
Harry
24 Aug 2012 #41
The same could be said about 1920 agreement but "somehow" for it it was perfectly valid.

Really? Perhaps you can provide us with some details about the ultimatum which Poland was given in 1920? Who gave is and what threat backed it? I mean, we all know about the ultimatums which interbellum Poland handed out to countries such as Czechoslovakia and Lithuania (i.e. do what we tell you or we'll invade you) but this is the first we have heard about Poland being given an ultimatum in 1920.

Or am I wrong saying that Britain and France signed the Munich Pact with Adolf the Great volontarily and without any pressure from external circumstances?

Shock, horror: Britain tells one foreign country that it can do what it wants with regard to a border dispute and tells another foreign country that Britain isn't going to help it with regard to that border dispute. Or perhaps you can tell us about the treaty which Britain had signed with Czechoslovakia in which support was promised?
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
25 Aug 2012 #42
Or perhaps you can tell us about the treaty which Britain had signed with Czechoslovakia in which support was promised?

Did I tell in this thread about any treaty in which support was promised? Or did I tell in about any support which was promised to Czechoslaovakia? As far as we all know, there was no treaty between Britain and Czechoslovakia at the time.

Schock, horror: Britain tells one foreign country that it can do what it wants with regard to a border dispute and tells another foreign country that Britain isn't going to help it with regard to that border dispute.

Schock, horror: Or perhaps you could tell us then why did Britain go to Munich to sign the pact with Adolphe. What was Britain up to in this place?
Frantisek 1 | 20
29 Aug 2012 #43
Very good map. Thank you, Mister Gregrog.
I see in 11 century Polish king take big part of Bohemia. And in 20 century Poles and Czechs had struggle for Zaolzie territory. Good we have no border disputes today. We live in good times. History is history, we can no change it, but is it sense to quarel?


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