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Goodbye Lenin - we don't want you in Poland!


Harry
8 Nov 2012 #61
It is a bit of a head scratcher. As is why people who use Hitler salutes want to force shops to stop selling images of Lenin, unless they actually do want to expose themselves as hypocritical retards.

Now, to get back to the topic perhaps you can tell us why a Polish shopkeeper being prevented from selling entirely legal products as a result of threats from Neo-Nazis is in any way a cause for celebration?
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #62
What celebration?

What threats?

What neo-Nazis?

The Betar association with Nazis doesn't sit well with you? But ONR does?

Why do you speak of yourself in plural?
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,004
8 Nov 2012 #63
Propagating Nazi and communist ideologies is illegal in Poland. Only a change of the present government can get rid of the ideological fathers of Gazeta Wyborcza though.

Rubbish, there are two hostels in Krk with his images called Goodbye Lenin. Harmless fun.
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #64
You haven't read the whole thread. Go back and do that and you will understand.
Harry
8 Nov 2012 #65
What threats?

The threats of further protests against Empik if they continue to stock those entirely legal products.

What neo-Nazis?

The ONR, who protested against the legal sale of legal products.
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #66
Perfect, you just want to post something, no matter what.

The threats of further protests against Empik

You mean EMPIK the Polish shopkeeper. Why did the "shopkeeper" apologize?

The ONR, who protested against the legal sale of legal products.

Again, why would a huge chain apologize for selling legal products? To Nazis, of all people?
Harry
8 Nov 2012 #67
You mean EMPIK the Polish shopkeeper. Why did the "shopkeeper" apologize?

Because it is easier to do that than to have a bunch of hypocritical right-wing retards protesting outside their shops and damaging profits.

Again, why would a huge chain apologize for selling legal products? To Nazis, of all people?

Given that the Empik website stocks literally thousands of products with the word "Hitler" in their title as opposed to 255 with the word "Lenin, I would assume they realised friends of Hitler buy more stuff from them than friends of Lenin.
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #68
hypocritical right-wing retards

Conservatives and right-wing are Nazis. You're not alone in that thinking. The is a bloody trail of your like in Poland.

Given that the Empik website stocks literally thousands of products with the word "Hitler" in their title as opposed to 255 with the word "Lenin, I would assume they realised friends of Hitler buy more stuff from them than friends of Lenin.

Look up what bełkot means.
Harry
8 Nov 2012 #69
" Conservatives and right-wing are Nazis. You're not alone in that thinking. The is a bloody trail of your like in Poland."
No, idiots who stand round a swastika replacement giving Hitler salutes are Nazis, or at least Neo-nazis. The ONR do that and thus are neo-nazis. They also threaten shopkeepers into doing what they command, just like the nazis did.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
8 Nov 2012 #70
Ok it's open now.Keep it on topic and clean.My only suggestion is to make sure that you are not the one that's making insulting or off topic posts or responding to insulting or off topic posts.Easier for me to isolate that way,and then that person or persons will be dealt with.Other wise the thread will be closed again fair enough?
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #71
idiots who stand round a swastika replacement giving Hitler salutes are Nazis, or at least Neo-nazis.

Any idea why there is a Nazis statue at the Amsterdam Olympic Stadium and those well known swastika replacement rings in Holland? Why are Nazi symbols all over U.K. cemeteries? Why do you call Jewish Betar members Nazis? Just because the communists called them that and you agree with them or is there another reason?

They also threaten shopkeepers into doing what they command, just like the nazis did.

The Nazis threatened store chains with protests? You must be a WWII history buff.



SeanBM 35 | 5,806
8 Nov 2012 #72
The Romans were also doing Hitler Salutes?

No.
So you are really trying to tell me that a "Roman salute" which you think is exactly the same as a Nazi salute is just coincidence and that such an action does not mean anything Nazi related, in Poland..

The salute gesture is widely believed to be based on an ancient Roman custom.[9] However, no surviving Roman work of art depicts it, nor does any extant Roman text describe it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute#Origins_and_adoption

ONR use the Celtic Cross as one of their symbols.

banner they are carrying. It says: I'm a Pole and I have Polish duties.

So the Poles with Polish duties are using a Celtic cross? not the recognized Nazi symbol.

Sure if they had a big feck off swastika, you'd be tellin me they are Shakti into their Indian religion.

And the hammer and sickle are only farming tools.

You're full of it.

Is this thread about the Nazis?

That's who conducted the protest, neo-Nazis.

Sean ( I don't expect an answer

OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #73
Not till Harry and friends tried it to be. I asked for moderation earlier, but she erased my request in solidarity with the socialists.

There is nothing more to say, so the thread can be closed as it will go around in flaming circles. Most of my threads are anti-communist and all the Marxists pop right up.

So you are really trying to tell me that a "Roman salute" which you think is exactly the same as a Nazi salute is just coincidence and that such an action does not mean anything Nazi related, in Poland..

I;m not going to repeat myself. Go back and look up Jewish Betar in Poland. They used the same salute? Were they Nazis? ONR also had nothing to do with the Nazis.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
8 Nov 2012 #74
The opening post reads:

Quick reaction by ONR forces EMPIK stores to withdraw gadgets with images of communist criminals Lenin and Che Guevara.

My post was as follows:

a bunch a nazis bastards protest the selling of communist bastard's memorabilia on stuff.

Both Commie and Nazi symbols are illegal in Poland, so that's that.

It appears to me, that because the Commies were on the winning side of WWII, they got away with too much.

At which 1Jola states that they are not Nazi bastard, I then go on to show they are, which he comes up with the flimsiest ideas to cover for them, which I have just blown out of the water and now he wants the thread closed, go figure...

All the things I have said about the Neo-Nazis are solely about the ONR, who are 50% of the topic at hand.

No comments were made about what I said about the communist bastards, so I didn't proceed with that.
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
8 Nov 2012 #75
All the things I have said about the Neo-Nazis are solely about the ONR

You don't have to explain what happened because I can read.
Everything you know about ONR is from wiki. That's the extent of your knowledge. You have no concept and I can't recommend any reading to you because you can't read Polish and are not interested anyway.

Get this in your head. The communists called ONR and Betar(Jewish) Nazis, just like you are doing. After the war, they proceeded in murdering them along the AK for not accepting their Soviet imposed regime. Your country happily accepted the communist rule in Poland. Now, you come in...
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
9 Nov 2012 #76
ONR also had nothing to do with the Nazis.

blood and honour

Nice T-shirt the guy has on, bhpoland.org
(Warning: extreme nazi website)
more photos here:
lukrecjasugar.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/grunt-to-skrajnie-prawicowa-rodzinka

I could do this all day but I believe I have sufficient to get my point across.

Everything you know about ONR is from wiki. That's the extent of your knowledge. You

Ehhhh. no, go back and read my posts.

You don't have to explain what happened because I can read.

Although that post was not intended for you, evidently you cannot read my posts.

I can't recommend any reading to you

That, from what you have said, I can agree on.

Your country happily accepted the communist rule in Poland. Now, you come in...

Link it or retract it.
Barney 15 | 1,590
9 Nov 2012 #77
ONR use the Celtic Cross as one of their symbols.

Cos they are sad nazi dicks who try to appropriate an apolitical symbol in some way to support their twisted view history.

If it looks like a duck etc it’s a duck. Why march using all sorts of signs and symbols if they don’t mean anything?

It’s the same as putting possibly, probably and allegedly in front of distasteful comments and claiming you didn’t say the bad thing.
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
9 Nov 2012 #78
as long as you are speaking about the neo-Nazis in Poland

There might be a few neo-Nazis in Poland, just as there are a few in Israel, but one must be seriously undereducated to call ONR Nazis. Members of ONR were hunted down by the Germans, those Nazis to you, and the communists later on. To call them neo-Nazis is total ignorance of the subject.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
9 Nov 2012 #79
Members of ONR were hunted down by the Germans,

And? The SS hunted down the SA,so,what exactly is your point,do you have one beyond defending idiotic polish neo nazis?
The communists also saifd the sky was blue,I suppose you say its green.....
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
9 Nov 2012 #80
Nice T-shirt the guy has on, "Blood and honour" (Warning: extreme nazi website)

You linked to a neo-Nazi site, not to ONR. Here is the ONR site, do you find Polish flags extreme?
onr.h2.pl/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=4&Itemid=110

Link it or retract it.

You want the year your country recognized communist Poland or what is your question?

Cos they are sad nazi dicks

You mean being a Marxist makes you a happy dick?

And? The SS hunted down the SA,so,what exactly is your point

You equate the NSZ with the SA? Are you that daft?
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
9 Nov 2012 #81
So fella,anyone who isnt a fan of the nazis is a marxist? Wow, so dumb yet able to type,or is it your care worker doing it for you?

By your *logic* the Polish army of 1939 were all raving marxists for fighting the nazis......
Hmmm,nothing remotly facist like about their imagry is there.... oy vey. you sir are a traitor and may as well go and urinate on the graves of all those brave Poles who died fighting the nazi scum you love so much.


  • the not at all nazi like nazi boys.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
9 Nov 2012 #82
You linked to a neo-Nazi site,

Linked to the ONR by the hip.

Here is the ONR site

Which blatantly shows the Neo-Nazi Symbols on their flags

Oh no... wait, these proud Polish men, in their brown shirts are actually proud Celts,
would you ever ....

what is your question?

My question is why do you defend these bastards?

You mean being a Marxist makes you a happy dick?

So anyone who is not a Neo-Nazi is a Marsist... ?

I suppose what else can we expect National-Radical Camp, (translation of ONR: Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny)
No doubt you'll try and say they are boy scouts and it's that kind of "camp".

So what are your views on Empik selling Hilter stuff? care to comment?
OP 1jola 14 | 1,879
9 Nov 2012 #83
I'll tell you what. Sunday, there will be four independence marches in Warsaw. The original ONR march ending at Roman Dmowski's statue, the President's "procession"...ending at Dmowski's staue(paying tribute to Nazis?), the Socialists march(that's new too), and your type march made up of communist youth and celebrities(ending at the Red Army cemetery most likely). If the ONR march will be the largest, you might want pack the backpack you arrived with, because you certainly do not want to live in Nazi majority country anymore.

Observe closely, and get back to me with your report.

you sir are a traitor and may as well go and urinate on the graves of all those brave Poles who died fighting the nazi scum you love so much.

My family were those brave Poles, not yours. And while they were fighting, your country dropped leaflets on the Germans( that's Nazis to you).
Barney 15 | 1,590
9 Nov 2012 #84
You mean being a Marxist makes you a happy dick?

No I mean being a seriously sad dick for supporting Nazi ideology. Karol Stojanowski a famous Polish interwar eugenicist was supported by Dmowski, the anti Polish thinking of these nuts and the undoubted overlapping of the extreme right and eugenicists is well documented.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
9 Nov 2012 #85
Observe closely, and get back to me with your report.

You're really clutching on to straws.
No answers, no insight, no pretending anymore, just a made up game, by you, about numbers.
And again, calling people communists because they are not Nazis has got to be the stupidest thing you have written, except for your continues support of Neo-Nazis.

On that note, I'll love you and leave you Jola.

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