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"Poland's Concentration Camp" ??


Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
26 May 2008 #211
I think Harry is right. It's high time we stopped being in denial and took responsibilities for the horrific actions of our forefathers. I think it should be initiated by our PM Tusk calling families of the victims of Polish concentration camps up with a sincere apology.

All 20 of them.

;)
Puzzy 1 | 150
26 May 2008 #212
And your excuse for the pre-war Polish concentration camp?

- Shouldn't we rather wonder what cruel places of torment YOUR country is running today, and whether YOU're having any participation in this? Well, Harry?

It's high time we stopped being in denial and took responsibilities for the horrific actions of our forefathers

- And what the hell are you talking about? Another ignorant, dim-witted, masochistic, Polonophobic polaczek talking into himself hateful crap about his own country? Stop being 'in denial' yourself and 'take responsibility' for your own crap. And don't attempt to talk on behalf of me and millions of ther Poles, whom creatures like yourself don't represent at the least, smieciu. By the way, I'll translate your nauseating remarks into Polish and post on Polish websites; let Poles - real Polish people - know what types like yourself scribble about Poland on the internet to flatter Polonophobic foreigners, such as 'Harry.'

:)
southern 75 | 7,096
26 May 2008 #213
Who created the ghetto of Warsaw?The Poles or the Germans?
Who created the crematorium in Auschwitz?The Poles or the Germans?Were ethnic Poles gased in Auschwitz or not?
Did any ethnic pole organization participate in the extermination of Jews like Latvian and Estonian groups did?How many Jews found shelter and hid in ethnic Poles' homes?
Puzzy 1 | 150
26 May 2008 #214
Who created

- Who cares about it today? Only war and hate propagandists and those deluded by them. Let's focus instead on what's going on in the world today. Let's ask such questions as: is Israel, backed by USA, committing the genocide of Palestinans? Is the USA committing genocide in Iraq and elsewhere? Is the Guantanamo prison a death camp? Are America and Israel criminal states, such as Hitler's Germany?
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #215
Stop being 'in denial' yourself and 'take responsibility' for your own crap.

If you took the time to read his post and try to understand it then it woul beceome clear that it was a sarcasm. You know what sarcasm is don't you?
Puzzy 1 | 150
26 May 2008 #216
If you took the time

- I don't find any sarcasm in his post. Do you find it? Where exactly? Please, point it to me. And I know his other posts as well, so I'd rather stick to my opinion about him. As for your cutting in, is it a case of one Polonophobe defending another?

:)
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #217
I don't find any sarcasm in his post. Do you find it? Where exactly? Please, point it to me.

If you can't find it in such a short text then you don't want to find it, so I won't waste my time on you.

As for your cutting in, is it a case of one Polonophobe defending another?

You are not a representative of Poland or Poles at all. If you were, I would renounce my Polish heritage today. You are just a sick fvck who forgets his meds way too often. There is no difference between you and Harry.
Puzzy 1 | 150
26 May 2008 #218
If you can't find it in such a short text then you don't want to find it, so I won't waste my time on you.

- You mean the sarcasm exist in his post by you can't point where? :) Well, so maybe the sarcasm isn't there at all, and you're lying it's there?

You are not a representative of Poland or Poles at all. If you were, I would renounce my Polish heritage today. You are just a sick fvck who forgets his meds way too often. There is no difference between you and Harry.

- Who are you to decide who represents whom? Do you suggest you, a vicious Polonophobe from Canada, represent us? So you allegedly still possess some Polish heritage? What kind of heritage would it be, considering the fact that you're a vicious Polonophobe? As for calling me vulgarly a 'sick fvck,' well, you can call me any vulgar names at all, but can you prove they describe me in accordance with facts? Co, durny smieciu, ubierajacy swoja corke w ludowe szmaty i roniacy sentymentalne lzy nad tym jakim to jestes wielkim patriota?

:)
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #219
As for calling me vulgarly a 'sick fvck,'

Constructive comments get constructive responses. Sick fvcks get what they deserve. You are a Polish version of a nazi.

Puzzy, your condition is deteriorating by the minute. Seek help.
Sadek 4 | 136
26 May 2008 #220
heheh where is random abouse thread ?
Puzzy 1 | 150
26 May 2008 #221
You are a Polish version of a nazi.

- Prove I am 'a Polish version of a nazi' (sic). Even this remark of yours gives evidence of who you are.
Harry
26 May 2008 #222
"Polish Concentration Camps" did not exist in pre-war independent Poland, occupied wartime, or post war Poland.

So you believe that the pre-war camp in which enemies of the state were sent without trial and tortured was just a holiday camp? A 'seclusion camp' as your government likes to refer to it. An 'isolation centre'.

And the post-war camps which were staffed entirely by Poles and run on the orders of the Polish government (which was composed entirely of Poles) were not Polish camps.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #223
And the post-war camps which were staffed entirely by Poles and run on the orders of the Polish government (which was composed entirely of Poles) were not Polish cam

You are really a booklet writing type, striving for catchy and, in this thread, sensationalist, phrases. Poles ran concentration camps! Wow! Bad, bad Poles! Jew killers!

Let's start with what a concentration camp is and who ran them.

Notice that Israel is not on the list since they only run Palestinian ghettos.
Harry
26 May 2008 #224
Notice that Israel is not on the list since they only run Palestinian ghettos.

You're never going to hear me defending the crimes committed by Israel in Palestine.
ela_lawyer 5 | 64
26 May 2008 #225
You do seem to dislike the fact that the official name of "Auschwitz Nazi German Concentration Camp" includes "German" in it. We wonder why? Can this be due to the fact? ...

- Your true name is "Harry Irrgang" and you live and work in Warsaw, Poland
- You worked for the Warsaw Voice (anti-Polish and anti-Catholic newspaper) as Copy Editor and Translator (which explains why you defended the newspaper and columnist in a thread on Polish Forums)

- You work for Lacrosse Language Consultancy on ul. Sienna 39 (Warsaw Towers) as a Senior Translator of Polish and German into English (hmm...German)

Based on a search for the surname "Irrgang" on the Ellis Island database, seems like you are of German ancestory, with most likely Christian and possibly Jewish roots.

Here are the results of a search from the Ellis Island immigration database on the internet:

Name - Place of Birth - Nationality

Ernestine Irrgang - Pryeinyol, Austria - Austria, Hebrew
Heinrich Irrgang - Berlin, Germany - Germany, German
Hensel Irrgang - Belbergsdorf, Germany - Germany, German
Karl Irrgang - Wulting, Germany - Germany, German
Kathe Irrgang - Lehe, Germany - Germany, German
Max Irrgang - Allenmarkt, Germany - Germany, German
Michael Irrgang - Amberg, Germany - Germany, German
Paul Irrgang - Lehe, Germany - Germany, German
Wilhelm Irrgang - Breslau, Germany - Germany, German

We realize how painful it must be for you to face the fact that Auschwitz was built and operated by the Germans. Hurts, doesn't it Harry? The world of lawyers is a small one. Poles should really boycott the firms you work for.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 13,204
26 May 2008 #226
Hey...I'm german too and I have nothing against the "german" in "concentration camp"!
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #227
ela_lawyer

Very interesting info.
I always knew one should not fool around with lawyers :)

I wonder if his employer and senior managers know that Harry is a polonophobe and defames Poland on public forums every chance he gets.

Hey...I'm german too and I have nothing against the "german" in "concentration camp"!

You're good because you are a true German and don't blame others for what happened before you were even born.
Harry
26 May 2008 #228
You do seem to dislike the fact that the official name of "Auschwitz Nazi German Concentration Camp" includes "German" in it. We wonder why?

I have no problem at all with that name. It is entirely accurate.

Can this be due to the fact? ...

- Your true name is "Harry Irrgang" and you live and work in Warsaw, Poland

That is not my name.

- You worked for the Warsaw Voice (anti-Polish and anti-Catholic newspaper) as Copy Editor and Translator (which explains why you defended the newspaper and columnist in a thread on Polish Forums)

I do not work for and nor have I ever worked for the Warsaw Voice. I have never defended and would never defend the Warsaw Voice.

- You work for Lacrosse Language Consultancy on ul. Sienna 39 (Warsaw Towers) as a Senior Translator of Polish and German into English (hmm...German)

I do not speak German, and I do not work for and nor have I ever worked for Lacrosse.

Apart from that, you're absolutely spot on with your facts about me.

We realize how painful it must be for you to face the fact that Auschwitz was built and operated by the Germans. Hurts, doesn't it Harry?

Not at all. But then it wouldn’t: I’m not German.

The world of lawyers is a small one. Poles should really boycott the firms you work for.

If you actually are a lawyer, which given your knowledge of libel law I somehow doubt, you will be aware that posting false and malicious comments about a named individual or company is somewhat foolish and can be very expensive. You have done both and have even called for an economic boycott of a named individual and of a named company: it is hard to imagine a clearer situation in which somebody would be able to prove that their reputation has been defamed and that such may well have an economic impact on them.

The world of Polish lawyers is indeed a small one and I expect it is almost entirely closed to a person who has been forced to admit (or found by the court to have) libelling respected individuals and businesses. I would suggest that you pick your words with a great deal of care from now on.

Do have a good evening.

I wonder if his employer and senior managers know that Harry is a polonophobe and defames Poland on public forums every chance he gets.

Tut tut tut, you want to join the suit or something?
southern 75 | 7,096
26 May 2008 #229
So you believe that the pre-war camp in which enemies of the state were sent without trial and tortured was just a holiday camp?

Yes,they were holiday camps.I for example used to tan there.

And the post-war camps which were staffed entirely by Poles and run on the orders of the Polish government (which was composed entirely of Poles) were not Polish camps.

They are still operating in Sopot.You can get there for some baths if you want.

libelling respected individuals and businesses

Oh,my God.You drive a business in PF?A respected one?
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #230
it is hard to imagine a clearer situation in which somebody would be able to prove that their reputation has been defamed and that such may well have an economic impact on them.

Harry, so you admit that your posts here are garbage and any possible association with the named companies and individuals would strip them of their alleged reputation.

Finally!

Tut tut tut, you want to join the suit or something?

Ouch, I'm so afraid of the keyboard warrior. You can kiss my virtual as.s. Wipe the screen afterwards.
southern 75 | 7,096
26 May 2008 #231
Harry,the jury of PF has found you guilty.
Harry
26 May 2008 #232
Oh goodie, it's such an important opinion to me.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
26 May 2008 #233
Har, you know what ? When one person says that you are a morn - ignore It, two people - think about It, many people - unfortunately It means that you are a moron. Sorry.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
26 May 2008 #234
Oh goodie, it's such an important opinion to me.

You haven't proven otherwise by your repeated "Poland ran concentration camps" rote. Why don't you prove the unimportance of PF to you and vote by hitting the Logout link in your profile.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 13,204
26 May 2008 #235
You can kiss my virtual as.s. Wipe the screen afterwards.

:):):)
Ozi Dan 26 | 569
27 May 2008 #236
Still angry about getting smashed in this debate Harry? Clearly so. You haven't flung any **** back at me - you didn't come even close. I'm growing bored with you Harry - I expected more, you being an author and all.

If you actually are a lawyer, which given your knowledge of libel law I somehow doubt.

If memory serves me correctly, there were some discussions had on the forum several months ago about a piece of Polish legislation making it unlawful to make spurious allegations about Poland.

Word to the wise - might be worthwhile hunting that thread down. Do have a good evening whilst doing so.
celinski 31 | 1,258
27 May 2008 #237
Do explain why it is revisionist to point out that Poland operated pre and post-war concentration camps.

Simply you are taking victim's and blamming them for actions placed upon them. Placing responsibility on Poland is absurd. Please find a forum where you can do good vs. trying to hurt.
Harry
27 May 2008 #238
If memory serves me correctly, there were some discussions had on the forum several months ago about a piece of Polish legislation making it unlawful to make spurious allegations about Poland.

Do go right ahead and report me to the relevant authorities. I know plenty about media law and what one can and can not say about Poland and would just love the free publicity of a little pr*ck like you attempting to convince the authorities here to gag me. You make a complaint and they must investigate me. They investigate me and I've got my story. So go ahead.

Simply you are taking victim's and blamming them for actions placed upon them. Placing responsibility on Poland is absurd.

So Poland bears no responsibilty for the pre-war concentration camp it ran? Yeah, right.
celinski 31 | 1,258
27 May 2008 #239
just love the free publicity of a little pr*ck like you attempting to convince the authorities here to gag me.

I think it's clear with your foul temper tantrums the only paper that would hire you is under ground anyway.

So Poland bears no responsibilty for the pre-war concentration camp it ran? Yeah, right.

Why you continue to go in circles I have no clue. It's as if you goal in life is to hurt people. For someone that spends as much time as you do spreading bul* sh*t just think of what you could do if you put that energy into something positive.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
27 May 2008 #240
don' talk to this idiot all arguments have been presented he is going to post here all the time.

Firslly he claimed that Poland runed camps durring WWII now he changes his mind.

Before after ... all the time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp


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