In the absence of any indication, and based on your veiled comments as to your mysterious persona, one's only left to assume - I still say you're a Pom.
It is fascinating how you are obsessed with my race. You seem certain that knowing my race would tell you something about me. That is because you are a racist.
I don't need to paint you as a bigot. I merely pointed it out to you, as your words here convey it plainly. You're a bigot for your own beliefs and a bigot against Poland and more particularly against it's people.
It’s not a belief against Poland: it is the knowledge that Poland ran pre and post-war concentration camps. The belief is that a lot of Poles need to face up to the facts of what they did and stop painting themselves as eternal victims.
The issue isn't about the 'facts' you post, because that's not what you're doing. You are making allegations and cherry picking to suit your contentions.
Fact: this thread is about “Poland’s concentration camp”. Fact: pre-WWII Poland ran a concentration camp. Fact: post-WWII Poland ran a number of concentration camps. Fact: the Polish government attempts to hide the existence of such.
You say the Polish people have to take responsibility for these so called concentration camps. I point out that the prisons were run by the communists.
I’m sorry, I didn’t realise that the Communists were in power in Poland before WWII. but clearly they must have been because the pre-war camp was, according to you, run by communists.
BTW: nice attitude that communists can not be Poles. How many members did the Communist party have in Poland?
Polish people can't be held responsible for it - it's anathema to the concept of popular government. Your argument might have held some water if it was a democratic government at the time, but it wasn't, the implication being that the individual is responsible in a notional sense for the actions (good or bad) of the government they elected.
Well that logic certainly is hard to argue against. But by your logic the German people bear no responsibility for the holocaust: they never elected the Nazis. The NSDAP never won more than a third of the vote in free elections; even after they had taken power and banned their main opposition, they didn’t receive the support of the majority of German voters.
Your argument may also have held some water if you had pointed out any benefit derived to the Polish people in general, with such benefits had by virtue of the operation of the camps - the rationale being that you profit from misery, you be responsible when called to account.
More logic by which you absolve the German people from bearing any responsibility for the holocaust. What benefits did they derive from killing all those Jews?
I confirm your argument is trumped, unless you can counter my proposition.
You’re completely right: I’ve been entirely trumped and you have proved that the German people never bore any responsibility for the holocaust. Although you probably think that Hitler had the right idea but was just an under-achiever, eh Dan?
Oh - so now you're the mouthpiece of the US Congress Library and of Norman Davies. I shudder at your lack of shame. Norman Davies at least has the academic impartiality to temper his contentions with historical context.
I am simply repeating what they say: that pre-WWII Poland ran a concentration camp.
As I've said before, facts without analysis and context mean nothing. Facts, when you mesh them with opinions, as you've done to create your own agenda, lose their authority and meaning.
How about this: fact Poland ran pre and post-war concentration camps. Analysis: Polish people operated the camps and Polish governments ordered them to be run.
For example: - FACT- camps in Poland post WW2. OPINION - Polish people must be responsible for that.
So who does take responsibility for the actions of Polish people?
You miss two tiny little points: firstly there was a concentration camp in pre-war Poland; and secondly, some of the camps in Poland post-WWII were run by Poles on the orders of a government composed of Poles.
Rough translation: If you love Poland so much. why aren't you here fighting to make it a better place to live?
I don't have the means or opportunity to do so unfortunately.
Of course you do. You can save up, buy a one-way plane ticket and get a job here.
Oh, sorry, of course you can’t. You’re just a kid living at home with his parents.
The 'war' I 'fight' is against people such as yourselves. You attack, I defend. Your petty, yet quite poisonous, insults and allegations against Poles are not to my taste.
The statement that Poland ran pre and post-war concentration camps is not an allegation: it is a matter of historical fact.
When all is said and done, history is all that's left, and I don't want some kid who comes on here to research his/her heritage to read comments from you or your ilk and take them at face value.
Here speaks the voice of experience, eh kid?
so how it is possible that we had Jewish lawers and doctors in Poland.
Because they were allowed to join before 1937. As my post says.