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Comparing Poland's communist-era slogans and propoganda with modern day concepts


delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
1 Jun 2013 #1
I thought this might make quite an interesting thread.

Patriot

A word that is commonly used today by supporters of PiS, but also commonly used in the post war era.

For example : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Polish_Patriots

Union of Polish Patriots (Society of Polish Patriots, Polish: Związek Patriotów Polskich, ZPP, Russian: Союз Польских Патриотов, СПП) was a political body created by Polish communists and Joseph Stalin in Soviet Union in 1943. This body, unofficially controlled and directed by Stalin, became a foundation of the Communist government created by Soviets that eventually took power in the People's Republic of Poland.

And today : rt.com/news/poland-government-church-protests-323/

We Poles, we Polish patriots say 'no,'"

Ironside 53 | 12,420
2 Jun 2013 #2
well, PO is even better in this:
same standing like PZPR against racism in the USA:

equality for women: kobieta-prl-stalowa-wola-2011-530x369.jpg

Beloved leader like Chinese leader thinks that Poland deserve economical miracle (case he is shyty leader):

The only thing that changed:

Its says - We will not let Americans Imperialists rebuild the Nazi militarism.
Now they do not mind.
call1n 2 | 179
3 Jun 2013 #3
Now they do not mind.

Too late America already rebuilt Germany. Contrary to common belief the Waffen SS was a multi-national "voltary security force" to fight "terrorism"...

Sound familiar?
Saudi Arabia is defended by America and Europe has 40 million immigrants that hate the Jews more than Hitler.
Germany did not lose World War 2!
Barney 15 | 1,585
3 Jun 2013 #4
Germany did not lose World War 2!

That's true they were just unsuccessful
legend 3 | 659
3 Jun 2013 #5
Too late America already rebuilt Germany.

You can also say "Communists" never lost the War either...

The Germans never lost WW2? Perhaps from one side of view you can say so, but then... Why do the Germans not have freedom of speech? Why are tens of thousands of American troops 'occupying' it?

Why are Turks entering despite Germans not wanting it.

WW2 weakened Europe greatly, now Europe is USA lil *****. And one tribe runs the show in US.

EU is Cultural Marxist from top to bottom.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
3 Jun 2013 #6
Legend,I would have to say that you are right with exception to who runs the show.
call1n 2 | 179
3 Jun 2013 #7
Why do the Germans not have freedom of speech?

Because if they spoke openly of their views that they still believe it would be apparent to the world that they never lost the war.

Why are tens of thousands of American troops 'occupying' it?

They are in Corporate legion with the Third Reich which is what fascism is... you can lose a war and win it!

Why are Turks entering despite Germans not wanting it.

This is just apart of Pan-Germanism. They can openly say they hate the Jews and be a mouthpiece for what the Germans cannot say. The Turks are Guest Workers... they have not assimilated into German Folk... most will go back to Turkey when they have the funds....

EU is Cultural Marxist from top to bottom.

Yes, and it will fail. That is the plan, the corporate structure will take over governments.

Israel will burn that is also part of the plan.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
3 Jun 2013 #8
p3undone, Legend and call1n, have you ever been to Europe? You are so wrong with your outlandish claims that it hurts.
legend 3 | 659
3 Jun 2013 #9
Many times. Was even born there. Since you are a lefty your words mean nothing to me :) You probably think EU is a beautiful place.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
3 Jun 2013 #10
TheOther,as we see EU economies collapsing one by one,and believe me this is by design.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
3 Jun 2013 #11
Since you are a lefty your words mean nothing to me

Let me help you out a bit... :)

Why do the Germans not have freedom of speech?

FAIL. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the constitution.

Why are tens of thousands of American troops 'occupying' it?

FAIL. The American forces in Europe are NATO troops - paid for by both the USA and the host countries.

Why are Turks entering despite Germans not wanting it.

FAIL. There's a law that allows Turkish and Kurdish people to bring their families to Germany once they've received a working permit/ permanent residency.

EU is Cultural Marxist from top to bottom.

FAIL. What you north Americans call Marxism or socialism is social democracy at best. Everybody knows that except you... :)

I would have to say that you are right

FAIL.

they never lost the war.

Double face balm!

But I have to give you that: you guys are funny.
legend 3 | 659
3 Jun 2013 #12
FAIL. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the constitution.

Okay go outside in Germany and scream holocaust didnt happen :) Good luck!
(The buzzword "hate speech" is a cop out).

FAIL. The American forces in Europe are NATO troops - paid for by both the USA and the host countries.

How about you ask the German people.

FAIL. There's a law that allows Turkish and Kurdish people to bring their families to Germany once they've received a working permit/ permanent residency.

This has nothing to do with my point.

FAIL. What you north Americans call Marxism or socialism is social democracy at best. Everybody knows that except you... :)

Incorrect as usual (boy oh boy thats something new!).
ifor bach 11 | 152
3 Jun 2013 #13
That's true they were just unsuccessful

They came second.
jon357 74 | 22,051
3 Jun 2013 #14
Joint second with Japan.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
3 Jun 2013 #15
Okay go outside in Germany and scream holocaust didnt happen

There is one thing the Germans don't tolerate: actively promoting Nazi crap. What does that have to do with free speech? I'd file that under common sense, to be honest. Or do you seriously want to tolerate another NSDAP in Germany just like the USA does on their soil - pretending to protect free speech? There's a difference between the US and Europe: the Americans have never seen a real war on their territory (except for the civil war and some minor squabbles). It's easy to be "tolerant" under such circumstances...

How about you ask the German people.

They were complaining that the Americans withdrew so many of their troops, because it hurt the businesses in the small towns badly.

Incorrect as usual

Don't play stupid, Legend. I've lived long enough in the US to know that words like 'socialism', 'communism', 'Marxist' and the like are used by certain politicial groups to scare people. The politicians might know that they are talking BS, but many of the average Joes take their word for granted. You want to deny that? When the GOP screams "socialism", they equate the social democracies of Europe to the USSR to discredit Obama. Scary stuff, I tell you... :)
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
3 Jun 2013 #16
Worth pointing out that the poster known as "legend" spent a considerable amount of time claiming welfare from Canada. For all the ranting about "leftys", he was quick to pounce on social democracy when he needed it.
call1n 2 | 179
3 Jun 2013 #17
Double face balm!

Germany never lost the War. There is a Third Reich government in Antarctica that is in communication with corporations in South America, America and Europe! Just look up the acounts of Admiral Byrd and the failure of the United States military to compromise the base of the Third Reich Government in exile!

Adolf Hitler lived a long happy life in Maryland after the war!

FAIL!

Listen once the EU collapses Corporations will replace national sovereignty!

This is fascism!
This is also socialism!
But just don't say the America won world war 2!
Lenka 5 | 3,490
3 Jun 2013 #18
Call1in. From now on I want you to provide some proofs of your statements. If not- bin is ready for your posts.
call1n 2 | 179
4 Jun 2013 #19
Here are some links to my statements... I do not know what you mean by "proof"... I hope it does not mean I have to go along with the general trend of accepted knowledge by the "scientific community" which has been wrong on just about everything...

1. Here is an excellent video documenting Admiral Byrd... the Third Reich exited government which the United States failed to defeat:
youtu.be/MwUpPwyyvLw
here is another great link:
projectcamelot.org/base_new_berlin.html
Here is a video showing that the Nazi's did not lose World war 2:
youtube.com/watch?v=J6X8YgCBV8o
MemetruX - | 2
4 Jun 2013 #20
Call1in. From now on I want you to provide some proofs of your statements. If not- bin is ready for your posts.
call1n 2 | 179
4 Jun 2013 #21
Why don't you prove to me that the Nazi's lost world war 2?
Lenka 5 | 3,490
4 Jun 2013 #22
For example when you posted that there is Third Reich government in Antarctica- maybe some photos, documents and so on? If it is a government they should be recognised as such by other countries, have some country to rule and so on. If they don't have it they are just a bunch of loonies.

That's what I'm talking about when I ask you to prove your point.
AdamKadmon 2 | 501
14 Jun 2013 #23
Propaganda: Power and Persuasion - a major British Library exhibition lifting the lid on the ways governments across the planet have attempted to influence your thoughts for over 100 years.

Noam Chomsky: That's our version of socialist realism; it's basically the same.

youtube.com/watch?v=O0D0E42AA4I


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