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Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland


Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #181
Kiev would also be nice :) I haven't heard of that second beer you mentioned but I'll ask the barman at the pub which has 130 foreign beers. You made a good point about local breweries. I wouldn't want foreign companies coming in and making Scotch whisky, for example.

Lviv no doubt has beautiful women. Maybe that's the secret reason that Poles want it back but there are many many hot women here.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
15 Aug 2011 #182
1715 is from there, right?

They have a very nice pub in the brewery, too.

And nice taxi drivers who wait outside and take you back to your hotel (along with 4 others in a taxi for 3..) and even give you a fair price :o
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #183
Sounds good. Very tempting indeed :)
den_fcdk - | 28
15 Aug 2011 #184
Yea, we have only 2 big Ukrainian-owned breweries: Obolon (Kyiv) & Persha privatna brovarnya (First private brewery) from Lviv.
This "Galicka korona" is brewed by PPB (Persha Privatna Brovarnya).
"1715" - is now Carlsberg...
Kyiv is great city! Think about it! )))
MyMom 6 | 137
15 Aug 2011 #185
Western Ukraine

You mean occupied Małopolska Wschodnia? Just for your information: there was an outrage in Poland some years ago when someone suggested to use the name "Małopolska Wschodnia" for the Podkarpackie administration district. Don't ever think that Poles forgot about those lands.

very patriotic people.

Yes, I saw on TV recently how young Ukrainians sang songs about UPA in a pub to the cheers of other pub guests. That was a very melodic song, I liked it, I think that should be your next Eurovision song.

Old town with lots of unique buildings

None of which were build by Ukrainians.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #186
So how long do you plan to be angry, MyMom? Can't you move on?
den_fcdk - | 28
15 Aug 2011 #187
to the Polish guy:

? you start it again?

Western Ukraine is Western Ukraine.
If you want - come and drink some beer with me.
If you want to talk about UKR-PL history - let s talk.
If you want our land - nobody is going to give it to you.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #188
Nice position. Another point, why have a go at a Ukrainian citizen? Let us not forget who usually causes conflict. Namely, politicians. Poles and Ukrainians often get on so let's leave it that way.
den_fcdk - | 28
15 Aug 2011 #189
Territory question is not easy. Not only UKR-PL. I understand. But you heard me.
What else do you want to hear? Choose yourself how to treat me.
I don t want to be your enemy.
My country started with Kyiv Rus - one of the greatest states of its time! But I don t want all the territory now back.

It was huge & it was long time ago.
Live today.

P.S. I am Ukrainian patriot. And i know what it is TO LOVE YOUR COUNTRY.
So, i don t want to hurt the feelings of the Polish patriot.
Let s try to communicate.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #190
Exactly! Modern day citizens should not be made to feel bad for what went before. Live and let live.

The same with Scotland and England. I have some English friends and if our history ever came up, we just used to laugh and then go back to sipping our pints. What use is it crying over spilt milk? Make friends and inspire people :)
den_fcdk - | 28
15 Aug 2011 #191
to Seanus
thanx for your support!
History is very important! But we should live today.
We must remember our past, but live today!

Good night to all!
Best wishes.

It was very nice to talk to you, Seanus! )
If you going to visit us - just write!! )))
I am sure, you are far from trying ALL kinds of Ukrainian beer))) Let s try to change it! )
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Aug 2011 #192
Likewise, den. I extend the invitation for you to come here too. Lviv may be a nice compromise inbetween our respective positions :)
den_fcdk - | 28
15 Aug 2011 #193
) Great! I usually try to visit Lviv when my team - Dynamo Kyiv - playes there vs our big friends Karpaty Lviv.
But the next match is only next March.
On the other hand - there must be a friendly game Ukraine-Austria in Lviv this year.
Ah-h! It s only about 500 km! Write! )))
Best for you! )
Seanus 15 | 19,706
16 Aug 2011 #194
Yeah, it's not the hardest trip in the world for me to organise :) Lviv is spoken well of here. Thanks for the invitation :)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
16 Aug 2011 #195
Karpaty Lviv.

I saw their hooligans cause some trouble in L'viv last year - the night of the game against Borussia Dortmund. Was good fun watching how the Ukrainian police dealt with them - no nonsense, all weapons.
Ironside 50 | 10,907
16 Aug 2011 #196
Look at Mladić, Piłsudski and Bandera.

Absolutely different circumstances and people ........you are posting nonsense Sean.
Slavic -phew ?

den_fcdk

People ? People think that Lwów is Polish but they believe it to be impossible to get it back.:)
MyMom 6 | 137
16 Aug 2011 #197
People ? People think that Lwów is Polish but they believe it to be impossible to get it back.:)

Military conflict is just one solution and, judging by how our boy scouts dealt with professional Ukrainian soldiers back in 1918, I reckon it would be a piece of cake :)

Better method would be to pull off "Albanians & Kosovo" - just settle in Lwów in large numbers and after a few years - declare independence :)
pawian 177 | 14,597
16 Aug 2011 #198
Absolutely different circumstances and people ........you are posting nonsense Sean.

Not quite. Setting apart some obvious differences, they had one thing in common - they all resorted to terror and violence in their fight for independence.

=MyMom]Military conflict is just one solution and, judging by how our boy scouts dealt with professional Ukrainian soldiers back in 1918, I reckon it would be a piece of cake :)
Better method would be to pull off "Albanians & Kosovo" - just settle in Lwów in large numbers and after a few years - declare independence :)

OK. You, Ironside, grubas and your 10 followers can go and try to deal with pro Ukrainian soldiers. :):):):)

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Seanus 15 | 19,706
16 Aug 2011 #199
Exactly, pawian. Or what they perceived as fighting for their nations in the name of freedom/survival.

Let me ask you, I-S, grubas, MyMom and anyone else that is still pent-up about Lwów. Why does Poland work together with Ukraine as part of PolUkrBat?? Because they can understand each other and are really very similar. Why deny that?
pawian 177 | 14,597
16 Aug 2011 #200
=Seanus]Let me ask you, I-S, grubas, MyMom and anyone else that is still pent-up about Lwów. Why does Poland work together with Ukraine as part of PolUkrBat?? Because they can understand each other and are really very similar. Why deny that?

Ironside and his pack are the so called 5th Column. They pretend they are still Poles and imagine they know what is good/better for Poland. Sadly, they lost the grip long ago..... In result, with their crazy views, they are the traitors of the Polish cause.

Don`t you think they work for foreign services whose aim is to provoke conflicts in this region? :):):):)
den_fcdk - | 28
17 Aug 2011 #201
I don t want to comment destructive & aggressive positions.
I admit that many Poles still think about Lviv as a city with Polish past - and why not (but don t forget also Austrian influence etc.).

But those who are crying for taking it back... Guys, it s really not interesting anymore.
Lviv is Ukrainian.
And those, who come to Lviv with peace - like friends - got peace & friendship.
Palivec - | 380
17 Aug 2011 #202
Military conflict is just one solution and, judging by how our boy scouts dealt with professional Ukrainian soldiers back in 1918, I reckon it would be a piece of cake :)
Better method would be to pull off "Albanians & Kosovo" - just settle in Lwów in large numbers and after a few years - declare independence :)

Most Poles prefer Germany, GB or Scandinavia. Strange, isn't it?
MediaWatch 10 | 945
17 Aug 2011 #203
to the Polish guy:

? you start it again?

Western Ukraine is Western Ukraine.
If you want - come and drink some beer with me.
If you want to talk about UKR-PL history - let s talk.
If you want our land - nobody is going to give it to you.

Den if I was a Pole, I wouldn't want to change the borders or take any land. The borders should stay the way they are. Everyone should just accept it.

But as a Polish American, I wouldn't mind drinking some beer with you.

:D

I like the Ukrainian Americans who I have met here in the US.
den_fcdk - | 28
17 Aug 2011 #204
2 Media:
:) Very nice! :)
I know that lots of our people live in US.
& it s another evidence that people can get along together no matter what nationality they present.
I ve met many Poles & we had a good time!
David_18 68 | 982
17 Aug 2011 #205
Exactly! Modern day citizens should not be made to feel bad for what went before. Live and let live.

The same with Scotland and England. I have some English friends and if our history ever came up, we just used to laugh and then go back to sipping our pints. What use is it crying over spilt milk? Make friends and inspire people :)

I wonder how it would be vice versa if the Brits would be the fiefs of the Scots and were forced to give land to the Scots. I don't think that the Brits would be sipping some pints with you if that would be the case :)

Scots are just a bunch of Cossacks. Same beaten mentality, happy with what they get.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
17 Aug 2011 #206
Scots are Brits, David.

What do you know of Scots anyway?

This is about Lwów, a Ukrainian city with a Polish/Austrian history
den_fcdk - | 28
17 Aug 2011 #207
2 David:
Happy with what is our land.
And, yes, we don t want to take from someone else.
P.S. As I see, you r Russian?
Mentality... What do you know about Cossacks & modern Ukrainians mentality?
David_18 68 | 982
17 Aug 2011 #208
P.S. As I see, you r Russian?
Mentality... What do you know about Cossacks & modern Ukrainians mentality?

Vodka
Seanus 15 | 19,706
17 Aug 2011 #209
Vodka is pervasive in Slavic societies. Hardly knowledge ;)


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