Ron2
20 Aug 2025 #31
It's as true as saying that Ukraine doesn't exist now. A country doesn't need an embassy to exist.
Poland's borders throughout history
I got the dates wrong,,,
1792, 1793, and 1795...Sorry...
There was no US or any other embassy in Warsaw. Polish "government" had no controlling authority over one square mile in what used to be Poland before 1939.
When my mother needed travel documents, she applied to the German government, not Polish.
Quoting:
Did England have an embassy in Warsaw in 1800?
No, England (the United Kingdom at that time) did not have an embassy in Warsaw in 1800 because Poland did not exist as an independent state, having been partitioned by Prussia, the Habsburg monarchy, and Russia by 1795, and was instead under Prussian rule.
In 1939 and on, Poland didn't exist as an independent state because it was owned and controlled by Germany.
Are we OK now?
Dealimg with Poles is a vomit-inducing emotional roller coaster...
1792, 1793, and 1795...Sorry...
affirm that you were born in Poland.
There was no US or any other embassy in Warsaw. Polish "government" had no controlling authority over one square mile in what used to be Poland before 1939.
When my mother needed travel documents, she applied to the German government, not Polish.
A country doesn't need an embassy to exist.
Quoting:
Did England have an embassy in Warsaw in 1800?
No, England (the United Kingdom at that time) did not have an embassy in Warsaw in 1800 because Poland did not exist as an independent state, having been partitioned by Prussia, the Habsburg monarchy, and Russia by 1795, and was instead under Prussian rule.
In 1939 and on, Poland didn't exist as an independent state because it was owned and controlled by Germany.
Are we OK now?
Dealimg with Poles is a vomit-inducing emotional roller coaster...
Ron2
20 Aug 2025 #33
You make up a bogus idea about an embassy. I could say that a country doesn't exist unless their president travels to Israel. Conclude the rest.
Poland's borders represent the country. They were not formally changed between 1939-1944.
It's like saying that a child born in a border US-Mexico town, occupied in 90% by illegal immigrants, was not born in the US.
In 1939 and on, Poland didn't exist as an independent state
Poland's borders represent the country. They were not formally changed between 1939-1944.
It's like saying that a child born in a border US-Mexico town, occupied in 90% by illegal immigrants, was not born in the US.
You make up a bogus idea about an embassy.
It's not a must, but a good indicator.
No, England did not have an embassy in Warsaw in 1800 because Poland did not exist as an independent state,
occupied in 90% by illegal immigrants, was not born in the US.
Next time pick a better analogy.
A child born today in California is a US citizen, not Mexican, because the US took Cali from Mexico by force and now has a total control over that territory. Nobody here gives a fvck how Mexico and Mexicans feel about it..
The same with Germany vs Poland in 1939.
Ron2
20 Aug 2025 #35
Many Polish people were born in Poland in 1942. For example, a famous Polish actor Marek Perepeczko: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek_Perepeczko
Marek Perepeczko
Born: 3 April 1942
Warsaw, Poland
Now, find one reference, besides your dementia brain, where it officially says that someone was born in Warsaw, Germany in the 1940'ties.
Marek Perepeczko
Born: 3 April 1942
Warsaw, Poland
Now, find one reference, besides your dementia brain, where it officially says that someone was born in Warsaw, Germany in the 1940'ties.
Born: 3 April 1942
Warsaw, Poland
Warsaw, Poland
You, Poles, are all heart, no brains.
You can't be born in a country that does not exist.
Ron2
20 Aug 2025 #37
An occupied country remains a recognized sovereign nation, as affirmed by the international consensus in 1945 following WW2. The term "occupied country" is logically valid and widely used to describe such nations.
The term "occupied country" is logically valid and widely used to describe such nations.
"Occupied" is a lavatory on a 737. It means "temporarily". When you are done shltting, you are supposed to leave, or the crew will drag you out by force.
There was nothing temporary about Poland being under the German rule. It was meant to be forever.
Then came my beloved Red Army to persuade Germany to please leave and brought the legitimate Polish government which was officially recognized by the US in the summer of 1945.
The term "occupied country" is logically valid and widely used to describe such nations.
This is correct. There's a precise legal definition in international law.
In WW2, Poland was occupied. Particularly brutally.
Is California "occupied"? Mexicans say it is.
recognised
This, Ron, is key to it.
The term "occupied country" is logically valid and widely used to describe such nations
Like the Baltics after WWII until the end of the ussr.
Lots of cases with overlapping border claims (as in Latin America where the maps of a number of Spanish speaking countries overlap a lot).
And there are cases where no particular solution seems in sight (IINM Western Sahara.... forget what the current status is).
Warsaw, GERMANY???
Sure you're not smokin' the funny stuff?
Sure you're not smokin' the funny stuff?
Warsaw, GERMANY
Even the Germans didn't consider Warsaw to belong to Germany. It officially belonged to the General Government (GG).
Rich is simply being his usual sarcastic self!
sarcastic
Is that a euphemism for cuntish?
marion kanawha 4 | 129
22 Aug 2025 #47
From 1921 Poland was Poland, even through the WW II era. When Poland didn't exist it was still called Poland. The documents from my ancestors coming to America (around 1900) state "Russian Poland". These include my relatives coming from modern Belarus even. So from what I've seen in the documentation, "Poland" was always "Poland", even if it's not Poland today. I find that quite interesting.