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Blue eyes of Gavrilo Princip for the independance of Poland. Was it worth?


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30 Apr 2015  #31

Lol, I accidentaly came here and I can't believe what you guys are saying.
First of all, term ,,,terrorist'' desribes person who is fighting against a legal government. Austro-Hungarian government in Balkan was everything but legal. They were mistreating people here and taking away every civil right from them. They were a dictators and I would compare these guys with Hitler. Gavrilo was ready to dye for his country and it's a really questionable what would be happening if he didn't kill Ferdinand.

However, Austrians were just waiting for the least incident to start the war. Conditions in the country already were a similar to the war conditions.

And it doesn't matter who was a Gavrilo's victim, he did what he had to do. He had to kill Ferdinand and his wife was close to him. Loss of Ferdinand's wife was nothing when we compare a Serbian losses.

In short - Gavrilo Princip was a fighter for freedom, fighter against occupiers. I hope God will forgive him for a murders which he had to do and intention to kill himself after that.

Btw, I can't believe that you guys are posting such a negative things against Serbs. Starting with Gavrilo Princip, you are accusing him for killing Ferdinand's woman? Wtf. Talking about the other crimes, yes they existed. And I see that you are talking about Foca crimes. You know, not everyone is perfect in the army. All war criminals from Serbia were accused and they are sitting in the jail atm. Serbs were making a crimes during the war, but not just them. Everyone were doing it and just Serbian people are in jail for it.

90's war : Ante Gotovina and Croatians, Haradinaj and Kosovo Albanians(war criminals from UCK are even sitting in ,,the Kosovo governement'' atm, chatting with Obama and fellas), Bosnian mujahedeen, etc. ; none of them is in jail.

WW1 and 2 - Serbian losses were huge, almost 2 milion people got killed. Ante Pavelic killed smt like more than 1 milion Serbs, Jews and others,, in overall. And still, nobody from his army wasn't punished. Croatians are even denying war crimes and existance of Jasenovac camp.

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30 Apr 2015  #32

Starting with Gavrilo Princip, you are accusing him for killing Ferdinand's woman? Wtf.

Let me guess, you want us to believe that she shot herself, right?
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30 Apr 2015  #33

Thanks for the comment mmmm

Problem is, or rather truth is, crimes on Serbs are desirable by the west of Europe. Genocide on Serbs is legal. That is why are crimes on Serbs allowed and then denied. On the other side, when anybody impose war on Serbs, while Serbs defend themselves, eventual Serbian crimes are regularly reported and presented in mass media with exaggeration. Or, if there is no Serbian crimes, they are invented.

i sow today in news that Czech president Zeman again underlined how is Kosovo mafia state, how is led by real terrorists and criminals and how is great injustice done to Serbs, how Czechs must support Serbs because they are in debt to them. i truly admire to Czechs for their loyalty to truth. Great people. Before Zeman, Czech president Klaus defended Serbs with same passion. Noble Polish president Lech Kaczinsky, God gave Him peace, defended Serbs, too.

Czech president refers to Thaci as "war criminal"

April 30, 2015 | 09:34 / b92
b92.net/eng/news/world.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=30&nav_id=93961

BELGRADE -- Czech President Milos Zeman says that he personally does not recognize Kosovo as independent and therefore is not sending an ambassador to Pristina.

Tanjug quoted the Vecernje Novosti article, to be published on Friday, as stating that Zeman said Serbs supported Czechs "in 1934 and in 1944" after the Soviet aggression.

"We are in your debt and we need to repay our debt. Friendship is one of the best ways to do this," said the Czech president.

Did you know people that first alliance between Czech and Serbian ancestors happened when Sarmatian Boii and Skoridsci formed anti-Roman tribal alliance?

Serbians (Balkan and Lusatian Serbs/Sorbs) are last Sarmats who still using local forms of original Sarmatian name as their ethnic name, once universal name of all Slavs. You can bet, it is one of reasons (one of few) for Serbs are doomed, for they are hunted. They have to extinct so that truth dies with them. So that fabricators of history can finish their sinister masterwork. But, Sarmats shall prevail and burn flame of resistance, once again
mmmm  
6 May 2015  #34

Good to see that someone is thinking on a good way, someone who isn't listening western propaganda. :)

About Harry's post, it would be the best if there is a world peace and that Gavrilo didn't have any reason to kill anybody. But victim of Ferdinand's wife is nothing if we compare Serbian victims in the war against Austria and before that war and it's funny how you are even mentioning her.

So I don't know, if murdering of 1 000 000 Serbs from Croatians and much more from Turkeys, Germans, Albanians etc., bombing country with depleted uranium in 1999. and diseasing much, much more people cancer due that(Serbia is the first people in Europe if we are looking number of deaths due the cancer, for more information take a look at documentary Deadly Dust (Todesstaub) ) .. If this isn't a crime(that's what Europan and world leaders are saying and what they want everyone else to think), than murdering 1 dictator and dictator's woman also ain't a crime.

A lot of worse crimes were made by other countries from Balkan, from Turkey, from Germany and Austria, from Spain, from America and Britain and nobody was punished... But they need some countries to be a bad guys in the public eyes, and Serbia is one of them.
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5 Jul 2015  #35

Gavrilo Princip, `rebel angel` - as Nobel Prize winner Ivo Andric called him

Monument to rebel Slavic and Serbian patriot Gavrilo Princip erected in Belgrade, in the presence of presidents of Serbia (Tomislav Nikolic) and Serb Republic within Bosnia and Herzegovina- RS (Milorad Dodik)

few quotations from the article

Monument to Gavrilo Princip unveiled in Belgrade

Tanjug Monday, June 29, 2015 | 11:59
b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2015&mm=06&dd=29&nav_id=94588

Gavrilo

"Gavrilo Princip was a hero, a symbol of the idea of freedom, the assassin of tyrants and the carrier of the European idea of liberation from slavery," Nikolic said at the ceremony.

As far as Germany and Austria-Hungary were concerned, World War I was imminent even without the assassination, he said, and added that "then, as well as now, as always, Serbia opposed the war. We deserved and received the halo of the righteous victors during and immediately after both world wars."

"Serbia is expressing its stance on the 'rebelled angels' - as Nobel Prize winner Ivo Andric called them - here and now, with the monument to Princip, that has been awaited for more than a century," the president said.

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5 Jul 2015  #36

Crowie, can you help me?

I tried to find the monument to Princip in Istoèno Sarajevo last summer, but couldn't find it. Can you have a look online and see if you can find the address, please? :)
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5 Jul 2015  #37

delphe, listen.

Just come to eastern (Serbian) Sarajevo municipality and ask for Gavrilo Princip`s city park. Best is to ask some taxi driver or policeman to give you direction.

Gavrilo

Gavrilo`s monument in eastern Sarajevo city park; monument that was erected in Belgrade represent copy of this one from Sarajevo

Polish article about Gavrilo Princip and recently built monument to Gavrilo in Bosnia, in Serbian enclave

Gavrilo Princip: bohater czy terrorysta?

histmag.org/Gavrilo-Princip-bohater-czy-terrorysta-9673

Tuż przed setną rocznicą zamachu na arcyksięcia Franciszka Ferdynanda we Wschodnim Sarajewie odsłonięto pomnik Gavrilo Principa, serbskiego radykała pochodzącego z Bośni. Przez wielu uważany za terrorystę, który wywołał konflikt w Europie, wśród bośniackich Serbów wciąż cieszy się estymą wybawiciela spod habsburskiej okupacji.

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1 Oct 2016  #38

Gavrilo Princip: bohater czy terrorysta?

Murderous terrorist.
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1 Oct 2016  #39

Bohater. Without Gavrilo and Serbian people today`s Poland most probably wouldn`t exist as state. Without Serbian struggle for independence (from Austria and from Ottomans) i hardly can imagine circumstances which could led to independence of Poland. Those were Serbians who literally pushed Poland out of western European sphere and certain assimilation of Poles there and, the same time, prevented Russian domination over the Poles. Those were Serbians who gave hope. Druids that summoned Sarmatian Dragon that breathed new life into deadly sleeping Poland, which then raised Her noble head.

Moment when Gavrilo- a Sarmatian Dragon awakened Poland

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2 Oct 2016  #40

Without Gavrilo and Serbian people

Without him WWI might not have happened and millions of people wouldn't have been killed. In England, the sex ratio of killing (millions of young men, almost no young women) meant that a generation of English women had to support themselves in the workplace. This explosion into the workplace by women with no chance of marrying (thanks to Gavrilo) has often been credited with leading to the feminist movement.

So what you're saying is that modern feminism is thanks to Serbia?!??!
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2 Oct 2016  #41

Blaming Serbs for WWI is fabrication of history. i would only quote comment of the Serbian president here, from the above article:

As far as Germany and Austria-Hungary were concerned, World War I was imminent even without the assassination, he said, and added that "then, as well as now, as always, Serbia opposed the war. We deserved and received the halo of the righteous victors during and immediately after both world wars."

Also, this quote of Serbian president:

"Gavrilo Princip was a hero, a symbol of the idea of freedom, the assassin of tyrants and the carrier of the European idea of liberation from slavery," Nikolic said at the ceremony.

Source: b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2015&mm=06&dd=29&nav_id=94588

When we are at reasons for WWI and WWII, it would be worth to mention how Anglo bankers profited from the conflicts, while biggest biological and material losses suffered Slavs. Seams that even Germanics were manipulated in great Anglo schemes and their hate on Slavs used for the profits of Anglos who are higher then Germanics in the ``food`` chain.




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