some don't want independence, some prefer Poland.
Some Polish said the following (from the other thread, interpreted in my words):
"I am not a Pole anymore, I am a Russian forever". It happened to be a Polish king. There are different people everywhere. And people see the issue differently. Some Ukrainians were on Soviet's sides as the latter initially supported the independance of Ukraine. Otherwise, most of them wouldn't have even took a stick in their hands. Many of these people, who knew nothing of the consequences of the communism and its Russian occupation implication, dreamt of better life. Of course, majority of these people were those who had nothing and the promise to have a piece of something was very appealing. Big farmers or small property owners have never sided with the Soviets. Ukraine in 1924 was declared a republic in a Union of other "free" republics. BS, of course, but who knew? Their aspirations were crushed soon after. Regarding your preferrance of Poland as opposed to the state's independance, it is a ridiculous statement, even not worth commenting.
I know you fought against the children in Lwów.
Well, of course. Ukrainian Cossacks fought with women, L'viv defenders fought with kids and UPA - with both. What else have you learnt in Polish history? If there were kids in L'viv, these "kids" (veterans of the Polish Military Organization + students) attacked Ukrainians as soon as the latter declared Ukrainian independance and L'viv as a capital. If you have "kids" shooting at you with guns, well, what do you so? Surrender to "kids"? ;)
We all did read your links, and it gave us nothing !
Probably, because you are glorious.
Is there an Ukrainian language these days
Yes, there is. And millions speak it. And there is English, which despite the fact that it is being spoken by millions worldwide, it still evades your blind-folded mind, unable to learn its basics: to put articles appropriately.
And if some Ukrainians felt betrayed, I'm sorry for them, but does that make Poland the worst country ever ?
Of course, it doesn't. Every country has a dark part in its history. And nobody said it is the worst or even worse than others. Why do you make stuff up?
Many of them supported "Denekin"
You, probably, meant Denikin. If you can't spell the name of the general and put him in "" how can you even claim how many supported him. Any source? Here is some info about Ukrainian "support" of Denikin:
Leon Trotsky, as commander of Red Army forces hastily concluded an agreement with Nestor Makhno's anarchist Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine or 'Black Army' for mutual support. Makhno duly turned his Black Army east and led his troops against Denikin's extended lines of supply, forcing him to retreat
Well, one of Ukrainian main forces at that time - Ukrainian Insurgent Revolutionary Army of Nestor Makhno (c. 40,000 soldiers) fought against him. Denikin could gain some support of former tsar administrative clerks who had nice salary and homes or army officers stationed in different parts of Ukraine to prevent unrests. Army lower ranks and regular people had no interest whatsoever to support Russian imperialism, quite the opposite.
When we talk about modern Ukraine, I hold my thumbs for as independent, as unified Ukraine as it is possible.
I do the same about Poland. It is more exciting to discuss historic events when two or more interested sides of the conflict are present. I don't think you would be interested in listening to constant boring and often untrue "Glory, glory, halleluya.." no matter how sweet it makes you feel :)