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Konstanty Rokossowski - a Pole or a Russian?


Torq  28 | 2148
2 Jan 2026   #1
A Polish nobleman, General Konstanty Rokossowski of the Glaubicz coat of arms, son of Ksawery. Born in the Kingdom of Poland in 1896 into a family with deep patriotic traditions. Already as a small child he rode horses exceptionally well, a skill he learned on his uncle's estate near Grodzisk Mazowiecki. He attended primary school, then a gymnasium and a commercial school in Warsaw. After the outbreak of the First World War, while still underage, he volunteered for the Tsarist army in Grójec. After just one week of fighting, he was decorated for bravery with the Cross of St. George. He is the only case known to me of a soldier who passed consecutively through all military ranks, from private to marshal - and marshal of two nations, as he was both a Russian and a Polish marshal.

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Rokossowski rendered outstanding service in the defense of Moscow in 1941, achieved victory at Stalingrad, and won the greatest tank battle in history - at the Kursk salient. He liberated Belarus, Masuria, and Pomerania. He commanded the grand Victory Parade on Red Square in Moscow in 1945, in which Polish troops also marched, bearing on their banner the inscription: 'God, Honor, Fatherland.' After the parade, he returned to Poland, where he initially commanded the Northern Group of Soviet Forces and, after several years, became the Polish Minister of National Defense.

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He died in 1968 and was buried within the walls of the Kremlin, next to the first cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin. His father Ksawery and his sister Helena are buried at Bródno Cemetery in Warsaw, while his uncles are buried at Powązki Cemetery. Rokossowski himself always declared his Polish identity; in all Russian and Soviet questionnaires he listed his nationality as Polish.

To some he is a controversial figure and they refuse to recognise him as a Pole, but historical evidence seems to be overwhelming - he was a Polish patriot and a hero of Russia and the Soviet Union.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
2 Jan 2026   #2
This, of course, should be posted as GefreiterKania - a faithful Panslavist and an unconsoled orphan of Warsaw Pact. Torq, the western sellout, is way too retarded to honour a great hero of two nations like Marshal Rokossowski.

Login error, for which I apologise.
Alien  30 | 7705
2 Jan 2026   #3
great hero of two nations

Which ones?
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
2 Jan 2026   #4
Which ones?

Read the sentence until the end and you will know.
Novichok  7 | 11239
2 Jan 2026   #5
A Polish nobleman, General Konstanty Rokossowski

Great Post.

It changed my impression of this man totally.
Alien  30 | 7705
2 Jan 2026   #6
It changed my impression of this man totally

Był kacap, jest kacap, będzie kacap.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
2 Jan 2026   #7
Był kacap, jest kacap, będzie kacap

Funny - a typical peasant who emigrated to Germany, to arbeit fur deutsche mark and later euro, is calling a Polish nobleman "kacap". :)
Novichok  7 | 11239
2 Jan 2026   #8
kacap.

So what?

They liberated Poland and closed Auschwitz. Good enough for me to not throw insults at them...regardless of their primary mission and objectives.

Later, they protected Poland from the freedom and democracy warmongers. Thanks, guys...
Alien  30 | 7705
2 Jan 2026   #9
calling a Polish nobleman "kacap". :)

Fittingly, the last monument to Rokosovsky in Poland was removed in 1992...it still stands in Moscow today. Go with Turk and see it.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
2 Jan 2026   #10
the last monument to Rokosovsky in Poland was removed in 1992

Another example of idiocy. Old Piast Lands came back to Poland thanks to Soviet and Polish soldiers, and commanders like Rokossowski. Removing the monuments raised in their honour is undermining not only genuine historical memory but also Polishness of those lands.
Novichok  7 | 11239
2 Jan 2026   #11
Removing the monuments raised in their honour is undermining not only genuine historical memory but also Polishness of those lands.

The same childish idiocy as here...If I don't see it, it didn't happen...
Novichok  7 | 11239
2 Jan 2026   #12
I wonder how Poles would vote when asked if Palac Kultury should be replaced with one of those glass-and-metal futuristic atrocities from hell...
Miloslaw  26 | 5746
2 Jan 2026   #13
Rokossowsky was a traitor.
Novichok  7 | 11239
3 Jan 2026   #15
Good question, GK...
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
3 Jan 2026   #16
Good question

... and, believe me, traitors who didn't betray anyone is not the only kind of idiocy that we encounter on this board. :)
Ironside  53 | 13973
3 Jan 2026   #17
to Soviet and Polish soldiers, and commanders like Rokossowski.

How is he the hero of two nations? He was a Soviet hero, sent to Soviet Poland by his Soviet overlords. The Polish nation has no connection to it.

It is not the first time you have come as an apologist for Soviet Poland and the Soviets.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
3 Jan 2026   #18
How is he the hero of two nations

a hero of Russia and the Soviet Union.

... that's how. Of course you can argue that there never was a Soviet nation but some people might disagree.

It is not the first time you have come as an apologist for Soviet Poland and the Soviets.

... and not the last time either!
Bobko  30 | 2926
3 Jan 2026   #19
Whom did he betray?

Key question here.

I understand Stalin, or Beria - but what did Rokossovsky do to Poland?
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
3 Jan 2026   #20
what did Rokossovsky do to Poland?

He liberated Masuria and Pomerania - a deed that shall never be forgiven. :)
Ironside  53 | 13973
3 Jan 2026   #21
He liberated Masuria and Pomerania

He was following the orders of his superiors in Moscow. Are you thankful to Stalin for 'liberation'? I guess you are.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
3 Jan 2026   #22
He was following the orders of his superiors in Moscow.

... and Stanisław Maczek was following orders from his superiors in London (1st Polish Tank Division was under British command in WW2), and yet the good Dutch people of Breda are still thankful to him for liberating their city.

Breda

kombatanci.gov.pl/index.php/pl/3988-pi%C4%99kny-gest-klubu-pi%C5%82karskiego-nac-breda

Go figure!

Are you thankful to Stalin for 'liberation'?

You bet I am! Communist Poland was much better than a crematory chimney, any day of the week.
Miloslaw  26 | 5746
3 Jan 2026   #24
I understand Stalin, or Beria - but what did Rokossovsky do to Poland?

He was a traitor to Poland..... a Russian slave.
Novichok  7 | 11239
3 Jan 2026   #25
He was a traitor to Poland..

This is the third attempt to find out what he did...
Miloslaw  26 | 5746
3 Jan 2026   #26
This is the third attempt to find out what he did...

He joined the Russian army..... what more do you need you imbecile?
Novichok  7 | 11239
4 Jan 2026   #27
So any Russian naturalized US citizen who volunteers to join the US Army is a traitor. Right?
Ironside  53 | 13973
4 Jan 2026   #28
You bet I am!

Your IQ dropped two digits.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
4 Jan 2026   #29
Your IQ dropped two digits.

*starts singing Do you really want to hurt me? by Culture Club*

Come on, Iron, think about what Stalin did: he turned pre-war Poland - a multi-kulti abomination with indefensible borders from which people emigrated to Romania to find work, into a compact, racially pure, monoethnic, industrial powerbase! No banderists, no samogitians, no krauts - only Poles in a country with borders finally encompassing Old Piast Lands in the West. What's not to like?

If he hadn't been a genocidal sickf*ck, he would have tens of monuments dedicated to him in Poland today.
Novichok  7 | 11239
4 Jan 2026   #30
What's not to like?

Exactly. You sound like me now...Scary...

If he hadn't been a genocidal sickf*ck,

Nobody I know has died.

In 1952, Stalin sought to unify Germany, but Western Germany refused.


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