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Introduction to Polish history! From a Polish perspective


OP Kashub1410 6 | 690
10 Jul 2022 #91
Beginning of Chapter III - Written by Kashub1410 - during the day of 10.07.2022 CE

The times of the Royal elections had begun in Poland after the oldest most direct heir to the throne had died without any male hair.

In the hundred years earlier former Jagiellonian Monarchs had guaranteed themselves support and that of their heir who was next to rule (so that it stayed in the family) by increasing the privileges and rights of Polish nobility. (Starting a tradition of full domination of the political scene in the Polish commonwealth, mainly in the Polish lands knows as "the Crown" while in the lands knows as Grand Duchy of Lithuania a political force known as the Cossacks were to starting wrestle for political power, influence and might.

Which didn't erupt entirely until the first Sweden born royalty entered the political scene.

Due to the fact that the military, royal administration and the church in Poland was heavily influenced by nobility (especially landless nobility as they were pushed in such positions due to the lack of lands to inherit, out of poverty or being the younger son)

Which is why the ruler had to enact/enforce/agree to the noble privileges and not to remove them away. In a similar fashion as the Roman emperors gave tribute to the Praetorian Guard in it's time and Ottomons Sultans cared for the position and influence of Janisseries.

The Polish nobility had such a large say in how things were run, that politically going against it would mean having the entire state and the few royal institutions that existed against you.

Which was quite opposite in Sweden, where the Swedish king had made an informal alliance with the peasentry to outweight any noble complaints to their best knowledge. The everlasting threat of a peasants uprising against the nobles gauged on by a royalty made the Swedish nobility quite careful and knowing their place.

This was sought after by a number of Polish noblemen that saw the flaws of the situation in Poland, not to say also plenty of nobility saw Sweden as a emerging powerhouse and a threat to the Baltic trade (which was important as Polish grain was sold via such trade routes) and many thought that a continuation of the union idea but now with Sweden would not only improve the political system in Poland but, also create an unbeatable European powerhouse.

What ensued later, was the horror of nightmares and tragedy which it's effects and consequences haunted Poland for centuries, which only now in modern times Poland is starting to regain her strength back and returning to normalcy.

If stories of world wars terrify you, then read no more. Cause what I'll write next will shiver your spine and create utter disgust of the times that were.

In the next chapter

End of Chapter III- Written by Kashub1410 - during the day of 10.07.2022 CE
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,739
10 Jul 2022 #92
So...Sweden was some kind of role model but no polish King dared to emulate it? Interesting!

But I dunno if that explains what later happened, after all most other european Crowns didn't follow the swedish model and still kept their empires together....hmmm....
pawian 221 | 23,970
10 Jul 2022 #93
Grand Duchy of Lithuania a political force known as the Cossacks were to starting wrestle for political power,

That took place as late as 17th century. While much earlier, already in 15th century, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania had started developing their own aristocratic elites which were Polonised Lithuanians and Ruthenians.

Main families included: Sanguszko, Czartoryski, Ostrogski, Radziwiłł, Wiśniowiecki etc etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_nobility#Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania_before_the_Union_of_Lublin_(1386-1569)
pawian 221 | 23,970
10 Jul 2022 #94
Cause what I'll write next will shiver your spine and create utter disgust

Ooops, we dare not even imagine what appaling monstrosities you will write. Go on - we have seen various things in the forum.





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