Rafal_1981 20 Mar 2009 #152Polish hatred towards Jews... - what a moronic thread title.History of the Jews in Poland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Polanden.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_JewsI highly recommend some of you to write less and read more...Polish Pole from Poland
Sokrates 8 | 3,345 20 Mar 2009 #153nonetheless, what is being done here is a disgrace to the Republic of PolandWhat is being done here is disgrace for you, constructive and well deserved criticism of Jews by Poles is and should be continued, Jews were a particulary difficult and unrewarding minority in Poland having lots of Polish blood on their hands and later defaming Poland with implications of complicity with Nazi regime.Poles have a very sour experience with the Jews and its the Jews fault so criticism and negative sentiments are to be expected and have nothing to do with hate.
Rafal_1981 20 Mar 2009 #154Answers from prof. Norman Davies to the accusers of Poland:"...Judt could learn much from your Latvian correspondent ((Vaiva Pukite, April 6), who writes movingly about "the agonizing choices" and "tragic dilemmas" of nations like Latvia or Poland which were caught in the trap between Hitler and Stalin. Instead, he reveals his true hand by suggesting that his "European mainstream" consists of those who have left "the nationalist rearguard", "anti-Semitic clerics" (and me) behind. In other words, he is not advocating universal values but only a more deferential approach to Jewish matters...""...All Polish institutions were abolished, all Polish enterprises confiscated and all Polish law cancelled. As a result, with the possible exception of the Underground Resistance, there was no Polish collective that might subsequently have been held collectively responsible...""...No Polish leader of any standing ever offered to work for the Nazis. And no military unit was formed under German Command from Polish volunteers. By 1942, the Waffen-SS was filling up with volunteer divisions from France, Holland, Russia, Scandinavia, Hungary, Ukraine and even Bosnia. But they never got any Poles. Sad to relate, there were more British volunteers for the Waffen-SS than there were Polish volunteers [! - S.K.]..."geocities.com/jedwabne/english/letter_to_times_literary_sup lement_norman_davies2.htm
HatefulBunch397 - | 658 20 Mar 2009 #155KONSKIEpelta:i must say that the level of hatred for Jews displayed on this website is a horrible way to show one's Polish identity. this website conveys the impression that Poles still hate Jews. there is an expression that if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck.... nonetheless, what is being done here is a disgrace to the Republic of PolandQUOTED FOR TRUTHSome of you from Poland need to realize you are NOT the only POLES. There are people of Polish descent all over the world with names that instantly are recognizable as POLISH and ALL of us do not share your anti semetism and that is EXACTLY the impression some of your posts leave. It's one of heartless disregard and cold blooded antisemetism. YES I understand you have complaints but for the consideration of us could you please phrase them in ways that are a bit more sensitive to the suffering of others, all others, including Polish people who live other places besides Poland? The way you express yourselves effects us as well when people read what you say and judge us all by that standard, thus discriminating against us based on biases and prejiduces one might develop while reading posts that occur on forums that bear the word POLISH such as this one. Please be considerate.Thank you.
Seanus 15 | 19,672 21 Mar 2009 #156Insularity will lead to that outcome, HB. It's great that you take a stand but, frankly, I'd say in vain. Jews are just another group to bash here, not part of the Borg.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658 21 Mar 2009 #159Jews are just another group to bash here, not part of the Borg.lol I hope you aren't saying this is a hate site, Seanus, that would suck if you are.
Seanus 15 | 19,672 21 Mar 2009 #160Nope, I was inadvertently agreeing with you. It's sad to say that there are those who see the Jews as just another group to ridicule and put down.Some Poles have the Borg complex, nothing like the Japanese tho. I wasn't saying that at all, HB.
Randal 1 | 577 21 Mar 2009 #163to quote Rodney King "why can't we all just get along".Because Rodney King was a scumbag career criminal POS that his violent homies used as an excuse to riot and attack whitey.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658 21 Mar 2009 #164Honestly, Seanus, do you think people who want to learn more about Poland and Polish culture might be alienated by some of what they read, even though it's calmed down a bit. People who just want to know more might leave with the wrong impression...
Crow 154 | 8,996 21 Mar 2009 #165don`t hate them, don`t hate anybody. Simple, be yourself, survive and progress. Some of THEM are just jealous on Slavslet them live their lives as Jews or whatever, let Slavs live as SlavsSlavs don`t need to blame Jews... if Slavs failed to profit for they are numerous and rich with resources
Seanus 15 | 19,672 21 Mar 2009 #166It doesn't provide such a broad-ranging sweep of current positions sometimes, HB. Inaccuracies are there to be seen. More rational posting would guard against lies being spread.
z_darius 14 | 3,964 21 Mar 2009 #167The word "Po-lin" in the title is Hebrew for "You will rest here" or a "Place of safe refuge," but it also means "Poland." It was Poland where Jews expelled from other parts of Europe settled during the Middle Ages, making it indeed a place of refuge for 1,000 years.
Pinching Pete - | 554 23 Mar 2009 #169Same reason Dick Fuld made 100's of millions for running Lehman Brothers into the crapper.
Rafal_1981 23 Mar 2009 #171Why is "Jewish hatred of Polish" closed but this open?stop asking an inconvenient questions you, you...you anti-Semite ;-]
celinski 31 | 1,258 23 Mar 2009 #172you anti-SemiteYou are wrong. I do not feel Jewish should be treated any different. If this post is good the other is and vs. versa.
Rafal_1981 23 Mar 2009 #173Believe me - I know what you mean.I'm just pulling your leg.I'm a great supporter of freedom of speech."I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."Voltaire
Rafal_1981 23 Mar 2009 #176"An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews." — Joseph Sobran
Seanus 15 | 19,672 23 Mar 2009 #177Oh was he now? Really? For saying the Jews were 'ignorant and barbarous'.Well, according to the definitions of Helen Fein, Dietz Beiring and Bernard Lewis, he isn't. Care to discuss what they said, HB? Or will you go on with your defamatory labelling, tantamount to slander/libel?
HatefulBunch397 - | 658 23 Mar 2009 #178Oh please, I've been to college. I studied Candide. Everyone with half a brain knows Candide is an anti semetic book. Quit lying about everything. Face reality and quit trying to make everything worse. You trying to prove the title of this thread is true? Poles really do hate jews? You are doing a good job of trying to prove it, eh?
Seanus 15 | 19,672 23 Mar 2009 #180Yes, I'm aware of that, thanks. This is a virtual community so the demarcation is somewhat diluted.
