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Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them


OP pawian 176 | 13,997
3 Aug 2020 #211
It survived because Moscow ruled over Poland - not because Poles supprted it

Yes, ruled with Polish hands. Martial law by Jaruzelski was a pure Polish design and implementation. Was Jaruzelski and his henchmen Jews? No, he came from Polish nobility.

hat's like saying Poland was partitioned because Poles wanted their country divided.

But it was true. Many elites didn`t mind partitions as long as their estates and property in Eastern Poland were protected under Russian rule.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,945
5 Aug 2020 #212
@pawian
Considering that communism propaganda (Poles bad pany etc) isn't it strange that Jaruzelski became a general then in a "people's" army?
Almost as if he was fighting for the people and not power hungry communists :)

That is true @pawian
My family is a good example, from Lithuanian side of the family. They worked under Russian Tsarist regime in the administration (Just like the judges family in Pan Tadeusz) but, joined uprisings when called (On Poland's side of course)
OP pawian 176 | 13,997
5 Aug 2020 #213
isn't it strange that Jaruzelski became a general then in a "people's" army?

No, it isn`t. There were more Red Counts in communist ranks. They were watched over with suspicion until they proved themselves worthy of communist trust. He deserved it by working as a secret agent in 1950s and never ever betrayed communism.

but, joined uprisings when called (On Poland's side of course)

Yes, they did but it was later on, when noblemen who had initially agreed to Russian partition saw that it wasn` t so rosy after all.
kaprys 3 | 2,502
5 Aug 2020 #214
There were good and bad ones in all Polish social classes and within ethnicities living in Poland at different times in history.
Not all NOBLEmen were that noble.
Take Targowica or Potocki who refused to cooperate with the Polish underground but was ok with hosting Gorring in Łańcut. There are more and more examples.

As for Jews in the communist/stalinist authorities , there were many but it wasn't only Jews who were responsible for Stalinist atrocities in Poland.

As for cursed soldiers, we can't judge them as a whole but their individual deeds.


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