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Schneider from Lodz - a mystery!


bethgrz 1 | 4
31 Jan 2018 #1
Hi all,

I am seeking information on my mother's line. Here is the info we have from marriage record, travel ship manifest, censuses, death certificate.

Joseph Schneider, b in Lodz Poland 26 Jan 1862. Various sources say "Russia" or Russland, Poland. He stated Lodz Poland. He was a (Silk) weaver. I discovered the name of his silk mill in paterson nj!

Immigrated via Hamburg to NYC 4 June 1882, age 20. Naturalized April 1887. Married another immigrant in 1895; know details of his wife & their children. Story goes he "abandoned them." And that he was "raised Catholic." Death record is 1920; last child with wife was in 1914.

On marriage certificate he listed parents Anton Schneider and Barbara Michel, from Germany.

I can find none of them. We have no details.

I did find parents with those names where the years could work but all the way in Luxembourg, where that entire line lived and died. Lodz is so far away. They did not have a "Joseph."

Might anyone have some good ideas?

I have exhausted familysearch and ancestry within parameters I can deduct.

Thanks in advance!! I am new to this.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
31 Jan 2018 #2
The data you're looking for is all there:

familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9WRM-PCM
familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KF45-NZG
OP bethgrz 1 | 4
31 Jan 2018 #3
Yes. I had originally linked this to my gentleman Joseph Schneider, but he is not the right one. I spoke with the person who has all of the Luxembourg records. It would've been nice... But this is not my family. In fact that's what I was referring to; I had found parents of the same name from Luxembourg but it is just way too far from Lodz. They do not have record of Joseph in their extremely extensive records.
kaprys 3 | 2,245
31 Jan 2018 #4
geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=05ld&rid=B&search_lastname=schneider&search_name=J%C3%B3zef&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=1862&to_date=1882

I have found a Józef Sznajder (Polish spelling) born in 1862, son of Antoni and Barbara (maiden name Michler). He was born in Pabianice, though. Not far from Łódź.

It's the first name on the list and there are online scans of the birth records available. Press SKAN on the right of the name. It won't open on my mobile but it should be under 028-033. His birth was recorded under number 30.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
31 Jan 2018 #5
Nice find, Kaprys.
OP bethgrz 1 | 4
31 Jan 2018 #6
Thank you! Excited to search!

Beth Grzegorzewski
kaprys 3 | 2,245
31 Jan 2018 #7
I think they might be your family. Józef's birth record says Antoni was also a weaver - tkacz. The handwriting is really hard to decipher but you're really lucky. My family's vital records are not available there. And yours are! It seems they married in 1857, had a son also named Józef who died the following year. Your Józef was born in 1862.
OP bethgrz 1 | 4
31 Jan 2018 #8
Kaprys,

Wow, thank you!! I am embarrassed to say, but I have tried to spend some time on this site and can't figure out how to navigate it. If I get someone fluent in Polish (sadly my grandfather is deceased & my father in law is deceased, both Poland emmigrants), will it be more obvious? It seems I can only click on the three buttons - the Z/A/Skan, which don't bring me to an obvious lead. And frankly I don't want to use up your time with this as that is not the scope of my question.

I wonder, is there a link on this site with guidance for geneteka.genealodzy.pl

I wish I could bake you cookies as a thank you. :)

To TheOther, thank you sincerely also for your efforts to assist.

All the best.
kaprys 3 | 2,245
31 Jan 2018 #9
geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&w=05ld

Here's the English version. Look his parents and different years up, too.

You need to look for the number under akt (record). In Józef's case it's 30. When you click on SKAN it navigates you to a site with links to different scans ----> click on 028-033. It should navigate you to the scan of Józef's birth record. It's not the only his birth record but several others - his is in entry 30 but it's in Polish and in cursive. I can't decipher everything.
OP bethgrz 1 | 4
31 Jan 2018 #10
Many, many thanks. You have helped our family tremendously!
kaprys 3 | 2,245
31 Jan 2018 #11
I'm happy to hear it.
Good luck ;)


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