"male line" - there of the closest kin to Russian are Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles
Exactly. Remeber who you are!
SLAVA!
Polish and Russian DNA?
Exactly. Remeber who you are!
SLAVA!
How can DNA even matter? Is a German or Pole or Czech whose grandparents were of the Jewish faith or who moved there from India or Vietnam less of a German or Pole or a Czech?
If DNA tests were more popular in Poland (rather than feared) a lot of people would find they're a mix anyway.
If DNA tests were more popular in Poland (rather than feared) a lot of people would find they're a mix anyway.
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
16 Aug 2026 #63
Interesting question....
Maybe another example...can a white/black/asian USian ever become a Native in/of America?
Maybe another example...can a white/black/asian USian ever become a Native in/of America?
Yes. The term 'Native American' or 'First Nation Canadian' has a special meaning however even trump is an American native.
We all came down from the trees in Africa. Nobody spontaneously popped into existence in Czestochowa or Glastonbury or the Neander Valley.
We all came down from the trees in Africa. Nobody spontaneously popped into existence in Czestochowa or Glastonbury or the Neander Valley.
How can DNA even matter?
Matters how? Everything that can be quantify matters.
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
16 Aug 2026 #66
We all came down from the trees in Africa.
And yet....there never was only a "We", there have been at least 8 different human species developed down from this tree...Homo heidelbergensis, Homo luzonensis, Homo habilis, Homo naledi, Homo floresiensis, Homo erectus, Denisovans, Homo neanderthalensis and now "We" Homo sapiens!
(Not to mention Homo rudolfensis, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, and Homo longi (Dragon Man)
There might be found more...there might be other species following us....I don't like this egalitarianism, it is also so contrary to the usual left demand for "diversity" anywhere else.
Why not acknowledge that there are different heritages, and that it hasn't to be something bad at all?
Or another interesting question: if you paint an elephant in white and black stripes, does it become a zebra?
there never was only a "We",
It shows the great diversity of humanity.
there might be other species following us
Hilo Sapiens will eventually evolve into something else. That's a long time away though.
different heritages
Thousands of cultures and all good. And with mass population movement from the 18th century onwards and only increasing, the culture you have now is generally more important than any other factor.
After all, a Pole with roots in Vietnam is still a Pole, a German with roots in Anatolia is still a German and a Scotsman with roots in Bangladesh is still a Scotsman.
Unless American-style identity politics wins and we all end up divided and divisive.
can be quantify matters.
Can be quantified matters.
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We all came down from the trees in Africa
Not according to the new discoveries. Seems that theory is going to be render invalid soon.
to the new discoveries
If you mean the multiple origins theory, that was debunked long ago.
And wouldn't make any difference if it had been true, which it wasn't.
if you paint an elephant in white and black stripes, does it become a zebra?
you need to ask the elephant.
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will eventually evolve into something else.
Some of them already devolved into zombies called lefties.
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If you mean the multiple origins theory, that was debunked long ago.
It wasn't.
Przelotnyptak1 1 | 1281
16 Aug 2026 #72
f DNA tests were more popular in Poland (rather than feared) a lot of people..
That where you are wrong, Myself, my family, every Pole I know, after ancestry testing comes up as 99+% Slavick. ancestry testing is very popular is the US
Myself, my family, every Pole
Not in Poland, it isn't.
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
16 Aug 2026 #74
There really is a problem growing, as I see it....for a long time a nation was nothing more than a tribe, a family becoming large....now, with so many different tribes occupying the same nation-territory there are of course frictions, some understandable and necessary and some not. But to deny them, or force to ignore them is not making go away...
so many different tribes occupying the same nation-territory there are of course frictions
It's not a sustainable model in the long run.
You gain a bit of good feeling from virtue-signalling political correctness, but lose out on social cohesion, increased crime, declining housing affordability, pressure on public services, and a lot of unrest without easily predictable consequences.
I predict times of trouble for Western Europe.
with so many different tribes occupying
So why do tribalism?
Obviously nobody wants some sort of nationalistic fantasy world. Just let people live their lives, intermarry and stay far away from identity politics.
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
16 Aug 2026 #77
Just let people live their lives, intermarry and stay far away from identity politics.
That only works if they all agree and follow the same rules...thats where usually the problems start!
all agree and follow the same rules
We don't all agree and follow the same rules. But most of us do.
We're humanity full of twats and full of good guys.
ancestry testing is very popular is the US
Yes, for 50 bucks 30 years ago they wrote to me that my lineage dates back to the 13th century. So what, apart from the fact that I have the paper in a frame?
Just let people live their lives, intermarry and stay far away from identity politics.
True, but it is the Muslims and Leftists that are driving this identity politics.
Lyzko9bda5804d1f
19 Aug 2026 #81
In the UK or in general?
Muslims and Leftists
Everyone needs a target to torment. Currently, these are Muslims and leftists. Once upon a time, they were Jews and Gypsies. 🤔
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
19 Aug 2026 #83
Everyone needs a target to torment.
Say the the families of the stabbing victims to their faces, or those driven to dead by amok cars...etc. etc. etc.
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
19 Aug 2026 #84
Major Mass-Casualty Attacks in Europe
2015 Paris Attacks (France): 130 people were killed and hundreds wounded when coordinated teams of ISIS gunmen and suicide bombers targeted the Bataclan concert hall, stadium, and several cafes.
2004 Madrid Train Bombings (Spain): 193 people were killed and over 2,000 injured when ten explosions occurred aboard four commuter trains, orchestrated by an al-Qaeda-inspired cell.
2016 Nice Truck Attack (France): 86 people were killed when a radicalized individual drove a cargo truck through crowds celebrating Bastille Day.
2005 London Bombings (United Kingdom): 52 people were killed when four home-grown suicide bombers targeted London's public transportation system during the morning rush hour.
2016 Brussels Bombings (Belgium): 32 victims were killed in coordinated suicide bombings at Brussels Airport and Maalbeek metro station.
2017 Manchester Arena Bombing (United Kingdom): 22 people were killed, including many children, when a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device at a concert exit.
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2015 Paris Attacks (France): 130 people were killed and hundreds wounded when coordinated teams of ISIS gunmen and suicide bombers targeted the Bataclan concert hall, stadium, and several cafes.
2004 Madrid Train Bombings (Spain): 193 people were killed and over 2,000 injured when ten explosions occurred aboard four commuter trains, orchestrated by an al-Qaeda-inspired cell.
2016 Nice Truck Attack (France): 86 people were killed when a radicalized individual drove a cargo truck through crowds celebrating Bastille Day.
2005 London Bombings (United Kingdom): 52 people were killed when four home-grown suicide bombers targeted London's public transportation system during the morning rush hour.
2016 Brussels Bombings (Belgium): 32 victims were killed in coordinated suicide bombings at Brussels Airport and Maalbeek metro station.
2017 Manchester Arena Bombing (United Kingdom): 22 people were killed, including many children, when a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device at a concert exit.
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Of course you know...since you are living in Germany:
Anschlag auf den Breitscheidplatz (Berlin, 2016): Ein Anhänger der Terrormiliz IS steuerte einen Lastwagen in einen Weihnachtsmarkt; 13 Menschen starben, über 70 wurden teils schwer verletzt.
Attentat in Hamburg (Deutschland, 2017): Ein Angreifer mit IS-Sympathien tötete in einem Supermarkt einen Menschen und verletzte sechs weitere.
Messerangriff in Dresden (Deutschland, 2020): Ein Islamist griff zwei Touristen an, ein Mann verstarb an den Verletzungen, der andere wurde schwer verletzt.
Weitere Angriffe (z. B. Würzburg 2021, Mannheim 2024):
Attentat in Hamburg (Deutschland, 2017): Ein Angreifer mit IS-Sympathien tötete in einem Supermarkt einen Menschen und verletzte sechs weitere.
Messerangriff in Dresden (Deutschland, 2020): Ein Islamist griff zwei Touristen an, ein Mann verstarb an den Verletzungen, der andere wurde schwer verletzt.
Weitere Angriffe (z. B. Würzburg 2021, Mannheim 2024):
Muslims are the reasons Christmas Markets, Churches and Synagoges have to be secured with bollards nowadays....yeah...the similiarities with Jews and Gypsies are glaring!
Lyzko9bda5804d1f
19 Aug 2026 #85
Sure, the latter were both minority scapegoats of majority hatreds!!
We all came down from the trees in Africa.
I beg to disagree.The Steppes, The Middle East and maybe even India.But not Africa.Why are we white?
Why not acknowledge that there are different heritages, and that it hasn't to be something bad at all..
A great comment BB.
@Bratwurst Boy
Polyethnic polities have been the norm in human history for the past 5000 years.
The contrary conception of ethnic singularity in a polity is an ideological construct, associated with 19th c. Romantic nationalism, that never really matched reality in Europe. The problems come when one group decides to dominate the others. Christian demonising Jews, gypsies etc led to disaster. Mass and effective ethnic cleansing à la the USA leads to a soulless but financially successful entity because that's the one unifying thing they have.
Polyethnic polities have been the norm in human history for the past 5000 years.
The contrary conception of ethnic singularity in a polity is an ideological construct, associated with 19th c. Romantic nationalism, that never really matched reality in Europe. The problems come when one group decides to dominate the others. Christian demonising Jews, gypsies etc led to disaster. Mass and effective ethnic cleansing à la the USA leads to a soulless but financially successful entity because that's the one unifying thing they have.
Lyzko9bda5804d1f
19 Aug 2026 #88
Marginalizing any particular group a la Trump and African-Americans constitutes, at least is tantamount to, a cultural cleansing, wouldn't you say?
Bratwurst Boy 10 | 13179
20 Aug 2026 #89
The problems come when one group decides to dominate the others
....or with other words: when one group doesn't give a *** about the common rules in that nation they immigrated to!
The homies are allowed to defend themselves against said group, they don't have to take it and just accept it for not wanting to be called "racists" or "nazis"!
when one group doesn't
Nobody's perfect.
defend themselves against said group,
How?