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Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light



Ironside 46 | 8,406    
9 Aug 2017  #421

And no she wasent adopted so what does That mean

That means absolutely nothing.


Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
9 Aug 2017  #422

Owing to centuries-long admixture, traces of neighboring peoples have surely left their mark on the inhabitants of Poland!
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,366    
9 Aug 2017  #423

And no she wasent adopted so what does That mean?

it means she had brown hair and eyes.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
10 Aug 2017  #424

Owing to centuries-long admixture

Nah, Poles are a pure Aryan race all admixture are either peasant, Jews or Soviets in one all and sundry criminal class.
gregy741 3 | 981    
10 Aug 2017  #425

born and grow in Poland,never seen Polish person of dark completion apart from gypsy.maybe you ment some refugees?or Romanians ?.not sure if this thread is trolling attempt or what?

tho i had one friend who looked abit Asiatic. probably some tatar genes.but very little
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
10 Aug 2017  #426

not sure if this thread is trolling attempt or what?

Nah, some people are viewing the world with very fine and tuned racist lenses.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
10 Aug 2017  #427

Ironside, you've finally revealed your true colors:-) Jews=criminal races or mongrel breeds, eh? Paging Herr Rosenberg!!!
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
10 Aug 2017  #428

Did it make your day?
jon357 70 | 12,793    
10 Aug 2017  #429

all admixture are either peasant, Jews or Soviets in one all and sundry criminal class.

So now we know what you think...
delphiandomine 87 | 15,756    
10 Aug 2017  #430

Shouldn't surprise any of us, being a child of the post-'68 generation.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
10 Aug 2017  #431

Off topic, but should it surprise Delph, jon or any other savvy folks that the most "anti-Jewish" in Europe have always been the ultra-Left, blaming militaristic little Israel for mistreating those "poor, innocent" Palestinians who never meant to blow up busses with Israeli aka Jewish children etc...

Lovely. And this rot led then to lefty rot equating Israelis with "Faschists"/"Nazis" (don't make us pukeLOL) and ZIonists with ALL Jews!!!
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
10 Aug 2017  #432

that the most "anti-Jewish" in Europe have always been the ultra-Left, blaming militaristic little Israel f

You have insight Lyzko, the ultra left is on the rise, look at the new left in Britain, the finger is being pointed once more, the jewish people Britain are no longer felling so secure.
jon357 70 | 12,793    
10 Aug 2017  #433

the finger is being pointed once more

Yes. Terrible rhetoric at the moment, mostly a result of anti-Israel propaganda coming from so-called palestinians. It's still a safe place to live. Worth remembering that the only country in Europe never to have had any legal restrictions on Jews is Scotland.

Closer to the topic, Poles are on what was once the crossroads of Europe, people settling there (as well as soldiers from invading armies remaining) from all over, from Scotland, Holland, France, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Italy. Certainly plenty of Jewish DNA within the population as a whole. There's wide variety of heritages within Poland and not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
10 Aug 2017  #434

not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.

Thank god for that imagine walking down the street and everyone you meet is a miiror image, mind you there are a few (hitller being one ) that dream of somekind of super race that were all bye eyed blondes.
gregy741 3 | 981    
10 Aug 2017  #435

There's wide variety of heritages within Poland and not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.

you couldn't be more mistaken.it was found long ago that any genetic admixture among poles are very small.there were no foreign armies occupying Poland for long enough to leave any trace.even soviets would be prosecuted for rape polish women.(well officially) but Russians are closely related as being slavic anyway.

i guess the greatest admixture to polish genes would be jewish
jon357 70 | 12,793    
10 Aug 2017  #436

it was found long ago

DNA testing hasn't been around for that many years and certainly not 'long ago'.

.even soviets would be prosecuted for rape polish women.(well officially)

It was a normal part of a soldiers expectations (that and looting valuables) until relatively recently.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
11 Aug 2017  #437

You bet your sweet life I have, dolno! A pity more here on PF refuse to recognize it.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
11 Aug 2017  #438

Off topic

You haven't answered my question. Did it make your day? Had you had that worm feeling inside. I'm have been right all along, I'm not a little patronizing and presumptuous moron, a prejudiced ornery old fart. I ( Lzyko) was actually right all along.

I'm laughing at you right now.

once the crossroads of Europe

It doesn't sound right or good. I would say that Poland was once a beacon for all Europeans and not only them. Sort of USA before USA.
jon357 70 | 12,793    
11 Aug 2017  #439

It doesn't sound right or good.

It does however sound true and historically accurate. If you look at the medieval trading routes, several crossed on the territory of today's Poland, if you look at the napoleonic wars (thousands of soldiers passed through and never made it back), if you look at the Swedish deluge, the influence of Hansa and a whole lot of other historical happenings, you will see that it's right.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
11 Aug 2017  #440

It does however sound true and historically accurate.

Not really, it suggest that Poland for the most part had been a place without identity or say in all that, kind of a feather in the wind. Nothing can be further from the truth. It is also not historically accurate. For almost 500 years Poland provided stability for the bigger part of the central and eastern Europe. Being a beacon for many Europeans due to its power, tolerance, wealth and freedoms.
jon357 70 | 12,793    
11 Aug 2017  #441

it suggest that Poland for the most part had been a place without identity

No it doesn't.

Anyway, identities change, as do people's relationship to that concept.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
11 Aug 2017  #442

Right! It simply means that Poland was no more, nor less immune to the influences of non-Polish peoples traveling through the country than anywhere else on the continent of Europe; Poland is ethnically no "purer", even if more homogeneous that many other countries:-)
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
11 Aug 2017  #443

Right!

Would you answer my question? Rather than flaunt your ignorance? Smooth generalisations might work on American kids but here it doesn't pass as an actual knowledge.

No it doesn't.

Sure it does to people who have no idea about Poland's history.

Anyway, identities change, as do people's relationship to that concept.

Not what we're talking about.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
11 Aug 2017  #444

"Smooth generalizations might work......"

So what d'you want me to do, Ironside, learn to stutter?
:-)
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
11 Aug 2017  #445

learn about facts if you are really interested. If not, if you are too old or too lazy to do that simply stop producing pop-cultural ***. It stinks.
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
11 Aug 2017  #446

You're trolling again, Ironside.
romanian    
3 Sep 2017  #447

@gregy741
romanians? are you really that dumb? why do you say romania when you talk about dark completion? why don't you say bulgarian, hungary, greece, turkey, serbia? you know nothing about romania and romanians and how do we look and it seems that americans were right when they considered poles very stupid and idiotic
Lyzko 17 | 3,676    
3 Sep 2017  #448

Romanians tend to be darker complected than certainly Poles, Russians, Czechs or most other Eastern Slavs, typically with pencil-thin eyebrows, acquiline features and medium stature. I have known Romanians who are tallish, blond, and light-eyed, but am wondering whether or not this might not be the exception:-)
kaprys - | 585    
3 Sep 2017  #449

@romanian
Why so angry?
The reason why so many Poles think of Romanians as dark complected is the big number of Romanian Gypsies who came to Poland in the 1990s.

I have never been to Romania so it's hard to say. Several years ago I met a Romanian at a conference here in Poland. She was blonde with fair complexion. So I guess it all depends.

I wouldn't say Hungarians are very dark. The only Hungarian whose hair and complexion were slightly darker than an average Hungarian's was a woman whose family originated in Transylvania.
mafketis 16 | 4,837    
3 Sep 2017  #450

I have never been to Romania so it's hard to say

I've been several times. Leaving aside gypsies, most Romanians would not really stand out in Poland. If you look at crowds there's a bit of a higher percentage of people with more mediterranean features but it doesn't stand out that much.

I wouldn't say Hungarians are very dark.

Over 90% of the non-gypsy population of Hungary are genetically slavs and germans who became magyarized. For instance there was a large immigration from the current Czech republic to Budapest in the 19th century but they'd completely assimilated within a couple of generations.

What stands out (for me) is body language, Hungarian body language is very different from Polish or Romanian (while Polish and Romanian body language are very similar).




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