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Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light


Ironside 53 | 12,364
9 Aug 2017 #421
And no she wasent adopted so what does That mean

That means absolutely nothing.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
9 Aug 2017 #422
Owing to centuries-long admixture, traces of neighboring peoples have surely left their mark on the inhabitants of Poland!
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
9 Aug 2017 #423
And no she wasent adopted so what does That mean?

it means she had brown hair and eyes.
Ironside 53 | 12,364
10 Aug 2017 #424
Owing to centuries-long admixture

Nah, Poles are a pure Aryan race all admixture are either peasant, Jews or Soviets in one all and sundry criminal class.
gregy741 5 | 1,232
10 Aug 2017 #425
born and grow in Poland,never seen Polish person of dark completion apart from gypsy.maybe you ment some refugees?or Romanians ?.not sure if this thread is trolling attempt or what?

tho i had one friend who looked abit Asiatic. probably some tatar genes.but very little
Ironside 53 | 12,364
10 Aug 2017 #426
not sure if this thread is trolling attempt or what?

Nah, some people are viewing the world with very fine and tuned racist lenses.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
10 Aug 2017 #427
Ironside, you've finally revealed your true colors:-) Jews=criminal races or mongrel breeds, eh? Paging Herr Rosenberg!!!
jon357 74 | 21,770
10 Aug 2017 #429
all admixture are either peasant, Jews or Soviets in one all and sundry criminal class.

So now we know what you think...
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
10 Aug 2017 #430
Shouldn't surprise any of us, being a child of the post-'68 generation.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
10 Aug 2017 #431
Off topic, but should it surprise Delph, jon or any other savvy folks that the most "anti-Jewish" in Europe have always been the ultra-Left, blaming militaristic little Israel for mistreating those "poor, innocent" Palestinians who never meant to blow up busses with Israeli aka Jewish children etc...

Lovely. And this rot led then to lefty rot equating Israelis with "Faschists"/"Nazis" (don't make us pukeLOL) and ZIonists with ALL Jews!!!
dolnoslask 6 | 2,934
10 Aug 2017 #432
that the most "anti-Jewish" in Europe have always been the ultra-Left, blaming militaristic little Israel f

You have insight Lyzko, the ultra left is on the rise, look at the new left in Britain, the finger is being pointed once more, the jewish people Britain are no longer felling so secure.
jon357 74 | 21,770
10 Aug 2017 #433
the finger is being pointed once more

Yes. Terrible rhetoric at the moment, mostly a result of anti-Israel propaganda coming from so-called palestinians. It's still a safe place to live. Worth remembering that the only country in Europe never to have had any legal restrictions on Jews is Scotland.

Closer to the topic, Poles are on what was once the crossroads of Europe, people settling there (as well as soldiers from invading armies remaining) from all over, from Scotland, Holland, France, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Italy. Certainly plenty of Jewish DNA within the population as a whole. There's wide variety of heritages within Poland and not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,934
10 Aug 2017 #434
not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.

Thank god for that imagine walking down the street and everyone you meet is a miiror image, mind you there are a few (hitller being one ) that dream of somekind of super race that were all bye eyed blondes.
gregy741 5 | 1,232
10 Aug 2017 #435
There's wide variety of heritages within Poland and not everyone (fortunately) looks the same.

you couldn't be more mistaken.it was found long ago that any genetic admixture among poles are very small.there were no foreign armies occupying Poland for long enough to leave any trace.even soviets would be prosecuted for rape polish women.(well officially) but Russians are closely related as being slavic anyway.

i guess the greatest admixture to polish genes would be jewish
jon357 74 | 21,770
10 Aug 2017 #436
it was found long ago

DNA testing hasn't been around for that many years and certainly not 'long ago'.

.even soviets would be prosecuted for rape polish women.(well officially)

It was a normal part of a soldiers expectations (that and looting valuables) until relatively recently.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
11 Aug 2017 #437
You bet your sweet life I have, dolno! A pity more here on PF refuse to recognize it.
Ironside 53 | 12,364
11 Aug 2017 #438
Off topic

You haven't answered my question. Did it make your day? Had you had that worm feeling inside. I'm have been right all along, I'm not a little patronizing and presumptuous moron, a prejudiced ornery old fart. I ( Lzyko) was actually right all along.

I'm laughing at you right now.

once the crossroads of Europe

It doesn't sound right or good. I would say that Poland was once a beacon for all Europeans and not only them. Sort of USA before USA.
jon357 74 | 21,770
11 Aug 2017 #439
It doesn't sound right or good.

It does however sound true and historically accurate. If you look at the medieval trading routes, several crossed on the territory of today's Poland, if you look at the napoleonic wars (thousands of soldiers passed through and never made it back), if you look at the Swedish deluge, the influence of Hansa and a whole lot of other historical happenings, you will see that it's right.
Ironside 53 | 12,364
11 Aug 2017 #440
It does however sound true and historically accurate.

Not really, it suggest that Poland for the most part had been a place without identity or say in all that, kind of a feather in the wind. Nothing can be further from the truth. It is also not historically accurate. For almost 500 years Poland provided stability for the bigger part of the central and eastern Europe. Being a beacon for many Europeans due to its power, tolerance, wealth and freedoms.
jon357 74 | 21,770
11 Aug 2017 #441
it suggest that Poland for the most part had been a place without identity

No it doesn't.

Anyway, identities change, as do people's relationship to that concept.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
11 Aug 2017 #442
Right! It simply means that Poland was no more, nor less immune to the influences of non-Polish peoples traveling through the country than anywhere else on the continent of Europe; Poland is ethnically no "purer", even if more homogeneous that many other countries:-)
Ironside 53 | 12,364
11 Aug 2017 #443
Right!

Would you answer my question? Rather than flaunt your ignorance? Smooth generalisations might work on American kids but here it doesn't pass as an actual knowledge.

No it doesn't.

Sure it does to people who have no idea about Poland's history.

Anyway, identities change, as do people's relationship to that concept.

Not what we're talking about.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
11 Aug 2017 #444
"Smooth generalizations might work......"

So what d'you want me to do, Ironside, learn to stutter?
:-)
Ironside 53 | 12,364
11 Aug 2017 #445
learn about facts if you are really interested. If not, if you are too old or too lazy to do that simply stop producing pop-cultural ***. It stinks.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
11 Aug 2017 #446
You're trolling again, Ironside.
romanian
3 Sep 2017 #447
@gregy741
romanians? are you really that dumb? why do you say romania when you talk about dark completion? why don't you say bulgarian, hungary, greece, turkey, serbia? you know nothing about romania and romanians and how do we look and it seems that americans were right when they considered poles very stupid and idiotic
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
3 Sep 2017 #448
Romanians tend to be darker complected than certainly Poles, Russians, Czechs or most other Eastern Slavs, typically with pencil-thin eyebrows, acquiline features and medium stature. I have known Romanians who are tallish, blond, and light-eyed, but am wondering whether or not this might not be the exception:-)
kaprys 3 | 2,249
3 Sep 2017 #449
@romanian
Why so angry?
The reason why so many Poles think of Romanians as dark complected is the big number of Romanian Gypsies who came to Poland in the 1990s.

I have never been to Romania so it's hard to say. Several years ago I met a Romanian at a conference here in Poland. She was blonde with fair complexion. So I guess it all depends.

I wouldn't say Hungarians are very dark. The only Hungarian whose hair and complexion were slightly darker than an average Hungarian's was a woman whose family originated in Transylvania.
mafketis 36 | 10,702
3 Sep 2017 #450
I have never been to Romania so it's hard to say

I've been several times. Leaving aside gypsies, most Romanians would not really stand out in Poland. If you look at crowds there's a bit of a higher percentage of people with more mediterranean features but it doesn't stand out that much.

I wouldn't say Hungarians are very dark.

Over 90% of the non-gypsy population of Hungary are genetically slavs and germans who became magyarized. For instance there was a large immigration from the current Czech republic to Budapest in the 19th century but they'd completely assimilated within a couple of generations.

What stands out (for me) is body language, Hungarian body language is very different from Polish or Romanian (while Polish and Romanian body language are very similar).


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