I have Jewish DNA, but only know of Polish ancestry .

They could also further their quest at jewishgen.org/dna/

regardless of jewish dna you can be of polish descent. why would this male a difference?

A "Pole" with Jewish DNA may not actually be a Pole. Thus was my case. I'm an Ashkenazi Jew with roots in Poland, but a Pole? Nope. By the way, my dad's atDNA results are now updated and showing Middle Eastern atDNA. So, there you go.

Ashkenazi from the middle east? Shaking my head.

The most important thing to remember, Nickie, is that despite everything your father does actually love you. But it's also a good idea to remember that things aren't going to get better until you stop this insistence that you have that he is part of a multi-generational conspiracy which is designed to keep the 'truth' from you.

Ashkenazim are descended from the Ancient Israelites. Also, I know what my family is like. You're only proving to me why ignoring you was a good idea, and I suggest that you read Proverbs 17:27-28.

The Middle East covers a huge area, most of it not Jewish. Nor does a trace of DNA mean anything much. It is largely meaningless. We are mostly a mix of strands of DNA from all over the world, and all the better for that.

BTW, Jewish lineage is matrilinial rather than patrilinial.


Very true.

does something like it even exist? Isn`t Judaism religion? saying that i don`t deny right that somebody see it as ethnicity too but, to say that it has its own genome isn`t realistic to me.

Some think of Judaism as a religion, others as an ethnicity.

It can go either way. Frankly, "Jewish DNA" does sound a bit strange to me as well:-)

The Y markers for Jews are Q, J1, J2, and E3b markers. Some Ashkenazi Levites have the R1a1a1 marker, though. The mtDNA markers include J and K markers. So, Jewish DNA does exist. Also, Jews are an ethnic group. See Deuteronomy 32:8-10. It was assimilationits and Anti Messianics who came up with the "Jewishness is religious and not ethnic".

"The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians "

epiphenom.fieldofscience.com/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html

and then you have

"'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert

Israeli Scientist Challenges Hypothesis of Middle East Origins"

being a Jew is it a race or to have Jewish religion I think it is just a religion.

Here are some links about people who tested with different companies.

genealogyjunkie.net/my-dna-results-from-4-companies.html
dna-explained.com/2013/02/24/the-autosomal-me-testing-company-res ults/
boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?m=82.1.1.1.1.1&p=topics.dnaresear ch.autosomal&sort=desc
thegeneticgenealogist.com/2012/04/02/a-review-of-ancestrydna-ance stry-coms-new-autosomal-dna-test/
brandtgibson.blogspot.com/2013/10/genes-day-friday-my-wife-is-no- longer.html
sites.google.com/site/mygenotype/

If that's the case, then

- The Bible is quite useless.
- The Holocaust would not have happened, or else we all would have converted. Even then, since some of us did convert both nominally and genuinely, we weren't spared Anti Semitism.

- There would be no J1, J2, Q and E3b markers.

It's not so complicated. Three thousand years ago, a tribe in the middle east called Hebrews started their own religion. This people became a nation and for more than 2000 years they almost only married among themselves even while scattered around the world. So Jews are not racially different than other middle eastern people, but they maintained a defined gene pool, a language and culture and a connection to a specific territory. So we are a national/ethnic group that's defined in part by its religion.

But the requirement for membership of the ethnic group which is set by that group is (and please do correct me if I'm wrong here) having a Jewish mother, right? Meaning that somebody who has a partly Jewish father isn't Jewish, yes?

OK. I have Jewish DNA too. (hmm...... It's so boring to stay on topic).

When DNA doesn't match supposed ancestry, it means that there's missing knowledge (there almost always is, few people can trace their ancestry back a hundred generations) or that the supposed knowledge is incorrect. Perhaps great-great-great-great-great-great-granny got hammered one evening while her husand was at the pub and then when a shop-keeper called to ask about the debt the family had she had a sudden rush of blood? Or perhaps great-great-great-great-great-great-great-granny had a childhood sweet-heart daddy would never accept due to his faith, so they parted after one last goodbye and she managed to find a Catholic farmer's son who was very bad at maths?

And then of course it is entirely possible to be both Jewish and Polish.

and could i add does it really matter? you are here now, in a few more years you will not be.
one of your ancestors might have driven goats between Dan and Beer Sheba - or then again he might not have.
It is all so spectacularly ......unimportant.

Don't think so as that would be about 3000 years ago - or so.

80 generations is about 2000 years. Some people can go back almost that far - they usually have well-documented royal antecedents.

It would be based on current developed nation standards. However, go back a couple of hundred years and a generation is more like 20 years; go back a thousand years and it was below that.

In genealogy, you usually count 25 years per generation. That's pretty accurate on the average even if you go back many generations.


abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=5386347
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_antiquity

so if you read the old book and it said that everyone comes from Adam and Eve and then they come from Noah after the flood are we all Jews?

would the DNA disprove the great flood or the old book was copied and modify from earlier texts like Sumerian?

how i see that, you are Polish then. What does it matter if you think that you have some Jewish DNA

Then she's Poliyshe Yiddishe, not Poliyshe goyishe.

That's the traditional Orthodox view.

Here in America, Reform/Reconstructionist Jews and secular Jews view someone as Jewish from either parent.


Noah was not Jewish...

I'm not surprised a Catholic has poor knowledge of the Bible...

What it is is three sons of Noah, see, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Jews came from Shem. Japeth gave us people of Europe and Asia Minor.

Biblically, Jewishness was traced through the dad with few exceptions. Abraham's descendants were reckoned through Isaac himself, not Isaac's mother. Isaac's descendants were reckoned through Jacob, not Jacob's mother. Jacob's descendants were reckoned through his sons, not their mothers. So goes the continuum. The exceptions include:

- The son of Shelomit the Danite.
- Hiram the son of the Naphtalite.
- Hiram the son of the Danite
- Timothy the son of Eunice the daughter of Lois

Assuming of course that any of those existed.

We're all God's children; that's what an atheist once told me.

so non of us are Jewish? that would conclude that Jewish is just a religion not a race of people.