Here is the birth certficate (if I've done it right!).
Family name : Rydel
First name and name after father : Romuald, Robertowicz
Born 10 December 1923 .
This Birth Certificate is registered in our registry under the 1923 year, under the December month and under the number 308.
Parents: Father - Rydel Robert, name after father.........??
Mother - Rydel Aleksandra, name after father/or maiden name..........???
Place of birth:...........?? and the Region:................??
Place/city of birth registration:.......?
Maybe some native Russian/or Ukrainian speakers will help you with the missing details which are under the ???? .
It's hard to recognise the handwriting and I don't want to guess it.
The other thing is, in Russia there is a tradition to put name after father as in this case, if father is Robert
, the after father name becomes Robertowicz
The name Roman
can be written in two different ways:
As for your question:
I think it would appear that the birth certificate is Ukraine but he was in the polish army. Anyone got any ideas as to why this might be?
you need to read about Poland's history and here are some details:
There are 2 stamps at the top on the right side:
1. Passport issued in the year 1939?, in the city: Kamianske (Russian: Kamienskoje)
Look here about the city:
2. The other stamp says (probably) the same but there is a different date. Hard to tell what date it is. Something 18. 12. 19....
We now know his name was Romanowi Rydel.
The name is not Romanowi
as there is no such name, it actually says:to Roman Rydel
and according to the birth details your relative's first name was Romuald
which in short you can call Roman