Abbreviations used in Polish gravestone inscriptions

I meant today. In the past there was such a fashion.


No, it is you who has a problem with understanding basic things. But I don`t really mind coz I have a chance to educate you, :):)

Well, dumbass in 1919 there was a war raging a plague and a general disorder so money was in a short supply and the longer the word the bigger the cost.

No, genius. What was in short supply was common sense. Two dates on a gravestone...Hmm...What could they mean...To eliminate any confusion, we are going to add UR and UM. Now, it's finally clear.

It's like the beginning of a bad Polack joke.

Not everybody is as bright as you, and full of common sense to the brim. Pity you cannot use it in real life to get some friends, and make your family less annoyed with your nagging.

Stupid is stupid everywhere. Cemeteries included. People who need "r" after 1935 have a huge problem.

I went back to the beginning of the thread and found this brilliant idea:

How about the American way: January 1, 1945 - December 31, 2018

Indeed, moving to a different country doesn't make anybody wiser.

True, but leaving Poland, getting here, and starting from nothing is Darwin at his best. All that having come from a place where they need UR, UM, and "r" on gravestones.

Luckily, the Americans who hired me didn't know it. It would be embarrassing...

You`ve been hating everything, everything that could have been. Could have been your anything, now everything's embarrassing

Not everything. Just UR and UM.

A person who needs those should not be allowed to use sharp utensils.

No, you hate much and many more than that. Practically, all your existence is based on total hatred. Think about it.

OK. Now that you said it, I love everybody and everything so I am done posting since there is absolutely nothing to add. See you on the other side.

Happy now?

Back to the moronic UR and UM. Do you personally know what two dates with a dash in between mean or do you need those UR and UM?

That was an honest question, not hate.

No, because I don`t want to see you gone. I like our exchanges. They help me keep up or even develop my teaching skills. :):):)


Hmm, what do they know? I don`t mean what they know. Anything special????

Do you need those UR and UM because you are too stupid to figure out what 19xx - 20xx mean on a gravestone?

A clue...No, it's not a subtraction. Those are dates.

Aah, I know now - you mean centuries?? 19th century, 20th century and so on???


Yes, I know but you can forget about taking me on a date.

you are embarrassing, Americans don't care about it and rightly so, you must have some mental disorder to even post about it. WTF wrong with you? People are doing this or that it has nothing to do with you or harm anyone,. so just do something usual for once rather that waste your and others time posting about BS like that..

It takes a nation of total morons to need "r" to eliminate any doubt about what a four-digit number on a gravestone means. It's just the beginning of the list. Next: Ty with capital T. And: Ci with capital C. And, of course, Pan... with capital P.

WTF is wrong with you, people?

Hello. Can someone help me with a gravestone inscription? I just came across a photo for a relative. I've tried to read through this thread, so I may have a guess, but would like to confirm.

Zyl Lat 67. Zm 21.1.1978 = does this mean he was 67 when he died (the Zyl Lat?) So if his death day is 21.1.1978 could we infer that he was born in 1911?

And underneath the dates it says: Prosi O Modlitwe. I can't find this in a translate website. He was buried in Nowy, Turek, so I am not sure what this could mean?

And what would the letters S. P. mean above his first and last name?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Update to my last question: I checked another site and figured out one of my questions above. Prosi O Modlitwe means "He asks for Prayers" . I'm still looking for verification that the Zyl Lat 67 is his age at death and what the S. P. means before his first name?

Thank you for your help.

zyl 67 lat means what you suspected (literally 'He lived 67 years') and S.P. stands for Świętej Pamięci (which literally means 'of sacred rememberance' but is translated simply as 'late')

@gumishu thank you for the confirmation.

Searching for help translating some gravestone inscriptions that appear to be in Polish:
The first is:
(first name, last name)
RODZENI
DNA 4. JAN.
NARODZILSEL
1849. SE. UMAR
DNA 17.HO.JAN.
1910 PAHADZAL
SKUCINA
STOLIC
ZEMPLINSKEJ

What I have so far is
Rodzeni => birth?
Narodzil sel => "was born"
4 January? 1849
Umar = "died"
17 ? January? 1910
(the dates I give here are those listed online for the person, but they rest in a US cemetery, and I can tell from other stones and how they were transcribed that the transcriptions weren't necessarily taken from church records or government records at the time. There's no listing of the person in the 1900 census, no apparent death record, no census record from state or county in/around 1905. There's no one else of that family name in the area and precious few in the entire USA. So I'm not convinced that "Jan." is actually January, because that doesn't match any month in Polish. I'm certain the periods I show are there, I personally read the gravestone as well as taking a few photos to clarify details.

Pahadzal doesn't appear to be Polish?
Where the person is buried is a coal mining town, in which mines have caved in. Could this be relating the person was crushed in a mine cave-in? Or "native of Zemplinska" or something like that?

Zemplinskej appears to refer to a Slovakian lake or location, the closest thing I found was "Okolo Zemplinskej", which means "around Zemplinska". Perhaps this last bit is saying he came from Zemplinska? (None of this matches slovakian, either, not well. Neither does it match Hungarian.)

Thanks for any suggestions you can offer. Google Translate is largely a fail here. I hope to correct some incorrectly translated records for this cemetery.

I would say Slovak more.


It's from Slovak Január.
Regarding these surnames the Zemplinska might be Polish (or Zemplińska)

The language is definitely Slavic, but not Polish; possibly Slovakian. "Pahadzal" seems to mean "originated" ("pochodził" in Polish). "Jan" means "January". "17 HO" means "17th".

Why "birth" and "was born" at the same time? Insert a picture, it may well help to decipher the inscription

Zemplin is the easternmost part of Slovakia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zempl%C3%ADn_(region) - the languge in these parts reminds Polish and Lemko

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Abbreviation on Polish Gravestone Tombstone

While doing some genealogy research, I came across this picture of a distant relative's gravestone/tombstone. I was able to translate some of the words and abbreviations on the grave but cannot figure out what the Plk WP means between the name and dates. My guess is it has something to do with military since he appears to be dressed in a uniform. If anyone can tell me what the Plk WP means I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

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@jpytlik
Colonel of the Polish Army.

Pułkownik Wojska Polskiego

Strange because there wasn`t such a colonel named Michał Franciszek....

Because the surname is blurred.

There was no colonel named M.F. who lived in those years.