Buying alcohol, wine in Poland. It's very difficult.

Yeah, Ozzie and NZ are 2 more new-world wine countries and are superb! Jacob's Creek is the commercial one but they have many better. I prefer NZ wines. Jackson's Estate, grown in Marlborough, is superb! Villa Maria too :) :)

Yellow tail? It sounds more like a type of sushi, Pete :) If it's a kind of wine, I can hunt it down. As the thread title suggests, it isn't always easy to find but there are some good places here.

Yeah.. give it a shot. It's really caught on in the US / GB:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Tail_(wine)

I'll definitely give that a try, Pete. Thanks for the recommendation!! Better than those pretentious and over-priced French offerings.

Most wines in Polish shops contain "siarczyna" (it says so in a font as small you need a microscope), presumably some kind of sulphur compound. I was told it speeds up the fermentation process from several years to about five days or less. Sounds really healthy, not, but that's my price range: about zł15,- per bottle max. Better to invest in a couple of 54L 'dymiony' and brew your own. Apart from the initial expense of buying the equipment, you'll get good healthy wine at a fraction of the cost in shops, and you know what's in it.

I tend to go 30PLN and upwards but I've tasted a decent one for just over 20PLN. A 30PLN wine is like a wine for 8 pounds so you should get sth decent for that!

It's not "most wines in Polish shops". The shops or country in which they are located have nothing to do with it. All the cheap Italian and Spanish wines I see in my local shops here in London contain the same compound(s) - sulphites if I remember right.

Cheap wines contain sulphites. The world over.

You are both right! Such a Polish thing, to argue with sth where there is no argument. LOL

That's Polish 'creativity', LOL. There are many good wines here but not top drawer.

Accepted. I stand corrected.


Well, I'd be surprised to find Chateau Lynch-Bages or Chateau La Tour in my local Biedronka or Delikatesy.

That doesn't change the fact that most wines in Polish shops contain sulphites, regardless of what is the case in other countries. Geez, remind me not to watch a Polish moot ;) ;)

In most shops I've been to you can easily check it out and pick it up yourself.


Poproszę najtańszą wódkę! :)

Does it make you feel ill choosing wino under pressure? maybe you should brew your own?

Geez, bimber. What you said wasn't wrong. The wines in Polish shops tend to be full of sulphites, that wasn't wrong. Oh, not only Poland has the bad stuff? Classic deflection. The Poles are SOOOOOO boring when it comes to this. Wine is international and it's not a bad reflection on Poland that wines in shops here have sulphites as it's widespread.

Seanus, I'd say that buying Carlo Rossi you know what to expect, the wine is worth the price and safe choice; but it is at the same time nothing you canbe surprised of and why not try somethig thrilling;)

I'd take responsibility over these:
Casillero del Diablo
Trapiche
Gato /Gato nero

They sound Spanish, Olaf. Spain produces pretty good wines but not cutting edge ones for the most part.

I'd go with Chilean ones like Errazuriz or Carmen. Mapo Valley wines are good too.

I was just impressed with the softness of Carlo Rossi. There was no hint of harshness that you can find with cheaper drops.

Casillero del Diablo is


, all three are from the New World if I recall correctly.
But you prefer softer rather than "bloody dry" ones? Than Carlo Rossi fits. I am always looking for dry, maybehere's the difference in choice...


- maybe go to a proper wine shop, you can touch the bottles and get expertise on most of them. After you create your fav. selection, it'l be easier to pick up the ones you want in a supermarket.

Spanish wine is awful.
I'd go with French or Chilean wine.

Beware of German wine. It sucks.

Semi-dry is what I prefer. I used to drink the dry ones but you have to get up for water in the middle of the night with those.

If they are Chilean, I'll have a look for them. 3 days til Friday though :(

why? Tempranillo is a bad ass grape. Spain grows plenty of them.


again, why? i've got a case of some awesome pinot gris from bingen.

I should stop buying wines under 2 Euro.

One of the best you can get for 20 zl. I can also recommend the Rosé version.

Tempranillo is a fine grape and, actually, is used in a lot of Chilean wine. Read up on it! It was sth of a prototype grape that never fully realised its potential.

Rose? Hmm...have never been keen on that :(

- plus thay most often contain sulphites


- oh, come on! That is for girls! ;)

Casillero you can get in Biedronka at 37zł! Just a month ago it was available for 30zł a bottle!

And what is the price elsewhere, 45-50PLN? Biedronka tends to be a bit cheaper.

Sometimes it's a good idea to make a girl happy.. hehe.

Yep, ranging from 40 to 50 zł. 30 zł was a very good price. I still have one last bottle of their Cabernet Sauvignon. :)

Good stuff! 37PLN is not too steep for a good drop. 10 pounds in the UK got me sth good 10 years ago but I reckon 13 quid for the same bottle now. Biedronka and wine, that made me laugh. Still, they've came out with some good NZ whites before, approved even by a Kiwi wine enthusiast who worked here so that can't be bad.

Yes, it does come about as odd, but they also had some nice Portugese wines before, so I wouldn't be so quick to knock down their offer.

how hard buying wine can be... especially in Poland!
just ask: "Poprosze mocne wino! Dziekuje najmocniej, panienko!"
:)

Portugal aren't renowned for their wines but their climate is good. Sorry, I was thinking Lidl for NZ wines. Still, I'm open to suggestion.