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johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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13 Sep 2014  #61

I would instead suggest that some of the responsible ones here grow a pair and stop interfering in threads every time there is a little topic drift or banter. It has become really annoying lately.

Yes, the insulting, rude, immature banter has become really annoying lately.
God forbid we grow up, act like adults have manners and respect each other.

We are humans after all, and not machines.

Exactly, humans are held accountable to the P.F. rules, machines are not.

Szalawa Activity: 4 / 274
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13 Sep 2014  #62

Harry suspended? I am shocked, how could this of happened? lets pretend we don't know why

instead look over the non-stop lies by something like gregy and szalawa or a bunch of serbian psychos

I see Nathan. I have not commented on the Ukraine crisis for a while now. Did you want me to say "Ukraine is the best" or "Russia is enemy of the free world, we must go to war" is that the truth you were looking for?

I love Crow, this forum would not be the same without him. I don't notice him throwing personal insults around or claiming 'Polish men are uncultured and don't wash themselves'.
johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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13 Sep 2014  #63

BINGO !
The word that comes to mind is "Mature".
Ziemowit Activity: 7 / 2,168
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14 Sep 2014  #64

Harry suspended? I am shocked, how could this of happened? lets pretend we don't know why

Let's pretend so. No reason is ever given for the suspension. But if it is a life suspension, the Admin usually announces it triumphantly in a separate thread without even giving the nick of the suspended. Such was the case for Delphiandomine, the most witty and intelligent member of the notorious little British Gang of Three, who got suspended for ever. God save Delphiandomine!

I love Crow, this forum would not be the same without him. I don't notice him throwing personal insults around or claiming 'Polish men are uncultured and don't wash themselves'.

Indeed! Given that his Serbian folly may be a little annoying to everyone, not throwing personal insults around makes him that different from the forum members originating from much more "civilised" countries like Australia or the UK (the latter in the process of disintegration).
johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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14 Sep 2014  #65

No reason is ever given for the suspension.

Pa-leeze..............
May I try to help you figure out the reason.

Mod's comment: Keep to the topic and less of the personal insults, This thread was cleaned yesterday because of you, and your mate.

Go read rule #8 as it spells it out very clearly.
I know you're not deaf and the moderator didn't stutter, however, was ignored.
The moderator's job is to enforce the rules.
A police officer's job is to enforce the rules.
What happen's when you ignore a warning from a police officer ?
Where I come from you are held accountable.
The moderator held Harry accountable after he refused to heed his warning.
Do ya think that is reason enough ?
Wulkan Activity: - / 2,940
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14 Sep 2014  #66

Such was the case for Delphiandomine, the most witty

Do you mind quoting some witty post of delp? For what I remember he was rather obtuse than witty, he also seemed to be sexually frustrated as he was unsuccessfully trying to seduce girls on this forum on more than one occasion.

Talking about witty posters, to me the wittiest one was the guy called Grzegorz, he made me laugh quite a few times. Pawian was also quite witty sometimes.
Ziemowit Activity: 7 / 2,168
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15 Sep 2014  #67

Do you mind quoting some witty post of delp? For what I remember he was rather obtuse than witty,

Well, witty or not witty in a more general sense, Delph was surely the wittiest of them three. The two others are simply dull and always repeating what they have already said. Yet they think they are the brightest shining stars of the PF. And their entourage here like Sobieski or The Other wll clap their hands and make them think they really are. The one who was suspended incessantly repeated the word: lie, lying, lier, racist, while the other (not to confound with "The Other") would be incessantly telling you that drinking unpasteurised milk may be dangerous to your health, for example. Delph wasn't like that at all, was he?

May I try to help you figure out the reason.

Mod's comment: Keep to the topic and less of the personal insults, This thread was cleaned yesterday because of you, and your mate.

But that was precisely the reason I myself quoted in my post #4. Don't you read posts older than the last three ones in a thread? What I meant was that the mod never gives an exact reason for a suspension. You may only speculate as to the precise reason - it may have been the one you have just helped me figure out or or a completely diferent one.

By the way, Jon357 doesn't seem to think that those personal insults was the reason for a suspension. He interprets the moderator's comment addressed to him and his mate which I quoted in my post #4 in a different light (even if the mod clearly states: thread cleaned beacuse of you and your mate) and says in his post that follows (johnny reb, please go to that post and check):

Anyway, most of the thread cleaning is for other reasons than people responding to offensive posts from 'students' and when push comes to shove, isn't part of the mods' role to clean threads now and again which is one of the reason the forum is moderated?

So the reason might have been, for example, that Harry said he washes his penis on a daily basis while a typial Polish man does not do it as often as himself (just wonder how he knows that, is he gay?). The mods could have thought that it isn't a thing that might necessarily attract interest of a wider audience, at the same time it might raise some angry reactions that could lead to more personal insults, so they decided to ban him for a while. And this is Harry - the star shining brightest on the Polish Forum!
johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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15 Sep 2014  #68

But that was precisely the reason I myself quoted in my post #4. Don't you read posts older than the last three ones in a thread?

Yes I do, however people kept on posting how they just couldn't understand why Harry got the boot.
There it was in black and white, could they not see the trees in the forest. They were acting like WHO.......ME ! how dare you.

I am with you 100% as the post above this, by you, is about as loud and clear as anyone could put it.
The good part is that the ring leader is not here to argue non sense to get his gang riled up.
Notice how all of his defense attorney's have toned down their insults since the head of the snake got chopped off and actually are posting in a civilized manner.

Hopefully this will attract new people with new idea's rather then how the P.F. couldn't survive without England and chase potential
new people away.
Wulkan Activity: - / 2,940
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16 Sep 2014  #69

that "extreme-right bingo" should be called "guide for lefties how to attack right wingers".
Szalawa Activity: 4 / 274
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16 Sep 2014  #70

When I think of an extreme right winger, Nathan comes to mind, but that's just my opinion

And this thread is pointless.
InWroclaw Activity: 90 / 1,922
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16 Sep 2014  #71

I hope Harry's back soon. (As I said a few days ago on Random.)
johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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17 Sep 2014  #72

I second the motion.
sobieski Activity: 109 / 2,132
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17 Sep 2014  #73

sexually frustrated as he was unsuccessfully trying to seduce girls on this forum on more than one occasion.

Mind to give an example when making such outrageous statements?
Mr Grunwald Activity: 17 / 1,483
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17 Sep 2014  #74

8. Of the extreme-right bingo can be contributed to non-extremists right winged people, so I find it a bit biased.

Also it's a shame that Harry has been suspended, because he knows a lot of stuff. Too bad he flames so much tho
Wulkan Activity: - / 2,940
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17 Sep 2014  #75

As I remember, It was a malicious and unsavoury comment from someone who used to post here a long time ago that some other's seized upon.

this comment made more sense before you edited it.
TheOther Activity: 5 / 2,803
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17 Sep 2014  #76

Also it's a shame that Harry has been suspended, because he knows a lot of stuff. Too bad he flames so much tho

Sometimes he just can't keep his mouth shut - we all know that. To be honest, I'm actually kind of surprised that the mods and the admin are always willing to give him another chance even though he had been suspended temporarily for I don't know how many times in the past.
Ziemowit Activity: 7 / 2,168
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17 Sep 2014  #77

I second that. To be honest, the forum is a much more friendly place just as it is now without Harry. People engage themselves in discussions in a quite different way and the level of personal insults without him is incredibly low, if any.

As he sometimes provides very useful contribution, most time he is simply agressive towards others or if not, he is just provocative on certain issues deliberately seeking emotional counter-responses. He also cannot argue in a civilised manner abusing certain words freely since he is allowed to by the forum administration. I think he suffers from a kind of "bipolar disease" or if not, this behaviour reveals a rather strong emotional imbalance. If I were the owner of this website, I would think twice if I really wanted to have him here. He undoubtedly attracts attention of other people, but in the long run, he tends to ruins the forum by discouraging potential new members or encouraging new members who also tend to discourage the existing ones.

But it's up to Admin what kind of policy he wants to follow. We haven't put such an effort as him to create and maintain this forum with the help of the mods. You always have to seek for a kind of balance between attracting attention and not loosing your audience. Just as a theatre performance with too much "noise" and too many "events" becomes uninteresting and dull after a while, so is the forum with Harry in the shape he is usually in. Nevertheless, I wish him all the best as this is my last opinion or post on Harry. From now on (if I stay on the forum for much longer) I will not fight against him despite his very often unfair and biased opinions on Poland and its past. Let other people do it if they wish to continue.

[In the absence of Harry:
Harry: - And would you like to tell us what unfair and biased opinion on Poland did I tell?]
Szalawa Activity: 4 / 274
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18 Sep 2014  #78

I second that. To be honest, the forum is a much more friendly place just as it is now without Harry. People engage themselves in discussions in a quite different way and the level of personal insults without him is incredibly low, if any.

This is very true, I developed a love-hate relationship with Harry, Harry always gave 100% in his insult posts. I have to admit I don't mind arguing with harry, only problem is Harry wants to argue with almost everyone on PF just for the sake of arguing.

he sometimes provides very useful contribution, most time he is simply agressive towards others or if not, he is just provocative on certain issues deliberately seeking emotional counter-responses. He also cannot argue in a civilised manner abusing certain words freely since he is allowed to by the forum administration.

true

He is getting old, it was probably his time to charge his batteries.

I remember the first week or so when I was on PF, Harry got a weeks suspensions and I got a 24 hr one, ah, good times....good times.

[In the absence of Harry:
Harry: - And would you like to tell us what unfair and biased opinion on Poland did I tell?]

yep, this is something Harry would say
Wroclaw Boy  
18 Sep 2014  #79

Harrys like a broken record, he has his moments of brilliance but unfortunately most of time hes acting like a dick.
Meathead Activity: 5 / 475
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20 Sep 2014  #80

That's true for everybody. Nobody should be banned.
PC_Sceptic Activity: - / 72
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20 Sep 2014  #81

I second that.

I am member of many, many social forums, on the international level. Not counting IT type of Forums or the geek ones.
I am aware of PF for a long time, even signed up once years ago but never posted, I was interested on reading only. by now i don't remember the nick name or associated email.

So had to start from scratch. Have more time now days.
Comparing to other Forums in terms of TOS. A strong hint, that it is a service not social place were we share ideas, search for answers and ask questions from silly ones to real deal questions/threads

Normal Forum(s) have rules and stickies, that's it. not some TOS Just the abbreviation is a turn off.
So on the scale 1-10 the PF on the level of strictness is an easy 8 more like 9. I would totally redesign the whole Forums, the interface and make an interesting place.

Mods are Mods, they have a hard work but they have a boss, and they do what they are told,
An observation, on other expat Forums I saw mods normally interact with the rest, here? i saw maybe 2 entries.

Even "Dirty Harry" got only suspension.
Ziemowit Activity: 7 / 2,168
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10 Dec 2014  #82

Sobieski: having gotten a bike accident here in Bielany, basically 300 mtrs from home...resulting in broken right arm....Long live Medicover by the way. I noticed Harry is suspended. I wonder why?

I also wonder why the hell he was suspended!

But here is the good news: Harry is back on the forum again!

Harry: Good to see that things at PF are still just as they were: I've been back less than 24 hours and already a certain somebody is being vastly actualité about me. [posted in the present bin under the heading: Harry ; Dec 3, 2014, 07:52pm ☓ #526]

Since your post announcing this thrilling news about Harry's suspension goes back to Sep 12, 2014, and while Harry himself reports to have been back on Dec 3, 2014, we may safely assume that he was suspended for more than two months. But still, the reason for his suspension remains a great mystery!

Sobieski: Waiting for my suspension.

We are all waiting for it. But in order to avoid it, be carefull not to post racist remarks on the forum, otherwise moderator Pam should again feel compelled to notify you with:

Pam: I wouldn't refer to your blatant racism as a triviality personally. And I wasn't the only moderator who banned you either [posted in the present bin under the heading: Pam ; Nov 19, 2014, 08:53am ☓ #414

Anyway, I feel sorry about your bike accident in Bielany.
Wulkan Activity: - / 2,940
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10 Dec 2014  #83

otherwise moderator Pam should again feel compelled to notify you with:
Pam: I wouldn't refer to your blatant racism as a triviality personally. And I wasn't the only moderator who banned you either [posted in the present bin under the heading

Luckly, Pam is not a moderator anymore
pam  
10 Dec 2014  #84

I'm surprised by this comment to be honest, because regardless of who suspended him, I would have thought that any attempt to curb the racism that occurs here from time to time would be welcomed. Sadly, it appears I was wrong.
InWroclaw Activity: 90 / 1,922
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10 Dec 2014  #85

Luckly, Pam is not a moderator anymore

I don't keep a scorecard but from what I recall Pam was a perfectly good moderator. It is not an easy line to walk and can be a real headache.
Crow Activity: 131 / 5,169
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10 Dec 2014  #86

people, i think that is Harry much better person since he come back from suspension. i clearly see that he now shows respect to Serbians.
Ziemowit Activity: 7 / 2,168
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11 Dec 2014  #87

Luckily, Pam is not a moderator anymore

With the word "luckily" used here, I cannot agree. I don't think Pam was bad as moderator. On the contrary, she was a rather balanced one. The only unpleasant instance that I can recall was when she suspended Szczecinianin (I still wonder how he - as an Englishman - manages to pronounce this nickname in Polish) because he was disclosing the name of the town in England where jon357 used to live before coming to Warsaw. But the name of that town had been disclosed by jon357 himself and in my view telling the name of a town of 60 to 70 thousand inhabitants cannot identify a person having lived in it. Nevertheless - as Jon was admitting in his posts - there were only three people originating from that town who happened to live in Warsaw, Pam may have been right to some extend. Still, if Jon decided to reveal those details about himself on a public forum, that should remain his problem and not the one of Szczecinianin or moderator Pam.

people, i think that is Harry much better person since he come back from suspension. i clearly see that he now shows respect to Serbians.

With this I concur wholeheartedly. Showing respect to Serbians should indeed redeem Harry's sins and eventually secure him a peaceful and eternal life on the PF free of suspensions and warnings from moderators.
Wulkan Activity: - / 2,940
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11 Dec 2014  #88

The only unpleasant instance that I can recall was when she suspended Szczecinianin

Really? This is probably the best thing she has done. Are you talking about the guy who was writing a blog "Szczecinianin" that nobody was reading so he was always pasting links here to increase the traffic? Not to mention he had a brain of 12 years old and I don't want to insult him, I mean it. At some point he started calling me "paki" and gave the link to urbandictionary.com (the most idiotic website I've ever seen) where it was stating that "white paki" is a person from Poland LOL

I still wonder how he - as an Englishman - manages to pronounce this nickname in Polish

I can garantee he was not pronouncing it, just typing it was enough challange for him.
pam  
11 Dec 2014  #89

The only unpleasant instance that I can recall was when she suspended Szczecinianin (I still wonder how he - as an Englishman - manages to pronounce this nickname in Polish) because he was disclosing the name of the town in England where jon357 used to live before coming to Warsaw.

You obviously didn't read the reply I made to your post at the time.
I did not suspend Szczecinianin because he revealed the name of Jon's home town, that was an added comment I made.
He was suspended because he continually re-posted provocative posts towards another poster that I had already removed to the bin from a main page thread.
johnny reb Activity: 11 / 1,586
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12 Dec 2014  #90

Pam you were one of the best moderator's when it came to patience with some of the idiots
you had to deal with. You are very mature and were dedicated to the P.F.
The meatheads that disagree should give the job a try and see how long they would last.
Hats off girl, good job.
I know........... I went off thread again........................ha

My grandma taught me if you are going to say something bad about someone that you
then have to say something nice about them.
His people skills may be a little ruff on the edges sometimes but you have to admit that he
is a wealth of information about Poland.




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