Quote attribution name removed and tested :)

Not really. After a spending a while on this forum you know the specific view and leanings of frequent posters. It's easier to detect sarcasm, irony, anger etc. when you know who wrote it.

Things are changing too fast here and not for better. Time to take a break.

No problem I can try.. now that I know it's the Admin and not ,say, Crow.

In the post form area, on the left of 'Polish letters: '

Oh. That's handy. I was going to complain about that too. Lol.

So what's that, like 1 good change you made vs. how many needless and annoying ones that just subtract from the flow of the board?

Admin


Not sure, I have not read through the whole thread. I am usually pretty mellow and go with the flow, but I dislike the changes, too.

Yes, this is not a chat, but people do make friends here as well as debate and discuss. I love to listen to a lot of the people and quote them when I agree or disagree. Oh well.

*Sad Eyes*

A useful feature if you are replying to a number of parts in a particular post. But, if you are reading something somebody has replied to it is nice to know who they replied to. This also leads to having to accept the context of the quoted bit as an entire thought. Often times, the context of the quote needs to be reviewed to suss out if the quote was taken out of context.

Also, if somebody replied to me on a particular thread, the search function is now entirely useless in tracking your posts and associated replies. A discussion killer really.

Respectfully requesting that you put the attribution back, please.

ah, and there I can easily check who's just been quoted. And how do I get back to the message I was in, quickly?


I never noticed that, so my comment on this is irrelevant, as based on false premises. May come handy, except that it returns always to the post of the last quote only.

Anyway, the seven words question was important. Forget the time limit, just have a go. You know who I am talking to, innit.


Never lived under fascism. Have you?

Well, look around, plenty of compliments here too when the admin did something that was appreciated. In fact, found it very helpful how quick he was with fixing some issues recently (post numbers disappearing, etc.).

This change is perplexing, I'd say some 90% of members here hate the new "nameless" quotes yet the admin doesn't give a s@$t. Found it quite despicable that his own behavior made him make assumptions about the rest of us. He admitted that he didn't read the posts but focused on names instead. So he developed his own bias and assumed all of us did too. Then he made a change that suited him. A selfish and a stubborn behavior.


Im sorry but that's total BS, with the recent "anonymous quote" update it's obvious the admin is working hard to make his own moderating easier, it will hardly help the forum members, quite the opposite....

I think I know what is coming next.....

Paying Gold Members will be able to see who quoted who.

Well , that will be usefull to the gold members..... who will probably be the only ones left on the forum...

Don't bet on it!

One problem is that from the main menu, you see the first few lines of a post, you see the poster's name, but don't realise it's a quotation. You think it's their words.

And in years to come when little kiddywinks are researching their family history on whatever comes after Google, they'll just see the post without realising that it was a quote from someone and think dear old grandpa was a racist or a llama obsessive etc.

Merged:Petition to leave the quote function as it is now

This is not a vote in favour of the new quote function, this is me just starting a thread about it.

However, if anybody is in favour of the new quote function, please post here.

If you are not in favour of the new quote function, please do not post here (instead please post in the thread against the new quote function).

Mountains out of molehills...
Is it so hard to paste or type the name into the quote with a colon and add a bold font to it?
Still, I think there was a syntax error in coding and its now become an experiment.
If some of the two-way back-and-forths over small points that halt a thread move to PM, that's a good thing,right?

Another good reason to have the quote attribution restored. How can we properly chastise the perpetrators of this sort of comment?

Yeah, no kidding! If what he (she?) said isn't racists and sexist I don't know what is? Don't feel like going back to decipher who said it but it could've been Anders himself!

RESTORE THE PREVIOUS QUOTE FUNCTION!!!!!!

I have two questions...

One, I have yet to see it explained clearly just how this new change is supposed to improve this place (other than some lame lie about it keeping insults to a minimum or something). So what exactly is the claimed benefit?

And two, why does every other message board on the internet have an attribution quoting feature but suddenly it's not good enough for this one?

Please respond with real answers and not just lame platitudes attempting to save face and defend this dumb decision. Thamk you.

As much as I am physically unable to agree with Harry in this case he is rights. With that change PF is going to the dogs. It's unacceptable. Same goes for avatars and unsigned Mods messages (I have to say some of them are real preacks)

The only good thing is a neat look of icons and buttons.


As much as I am physically unable to agree with Harry in this case he is rights. With that change PF is going to the dogs. It's unacceptable. Same goes for avatars and unsigned Mods messages (I have to say some of them are real preacks)

The only good thing is a neat look of icons and buttons.

The new feature hasn`t dropped from the moon.
It was introduced by the mods.
Did they have their reasons to do it?
I suppose they did. After all, they are intelligent guys.
Why did they decide to do it?
To make their work in the forum easier.
Now, a fundamental question arises - Why did they want to make their work here easier?

An even more fundamental question arises: was this the right way to make their work here easier?

No.

Unless introducing a dumb and unannounced alteration and getting 40 people to jump ship is anyone's idea of right.

How to stop constant spamming with Pollack, Polish traitor, paedophile and so on.

I don’t want to read people threatening others inviting people for fights or posters daughters for "drinks". Nor do I want to read racist drivel I generally ignore it, you can’t however ignore spamming throughout the threads by self appointed heroes who believe themselves to be top cocks of the board.

Then of course you have the one man wrecking ball dragging all topics into the sandpit and people foolishly following him.

If there has been a wayward drift disrupting the flow it’s the people with massive egos steering it in that direction. Admin has tried to keep a very tolerant open minded approach to the membership, the abuse of this policy has led directly to the most recent change.

Dear Admin,

if you refuse to put names with the quotes, could you at least put post numbers in there? I was reading a very interesting exchange today, the quotes had only fragments in them, took me forever scrolling back and forth to make full sense off it. Please, for the convenience, put the post numbers with the quotes at least :)

Numbers could be put, but the problem is when a post is moved the numbers get incorrect..

On the whole deletions are made quickly or not at all, and responses are binned with the quoted post, oftentimes. As I've said before, hyperlinked quotes taking one back to original quote is the way to go.

One key issue is when you quote from more than one person in the same post. Nobody can tell who said what.

Cool... I can go for that idea :)

I thought about it. Is there any way that the number could be updated in the quote as well? And in case the post goes to the bin, it could say "bin" on the quote, or something like that? (of course I mean for some script to do it, not the modes by hand)

Or the name of the poster could be shown on rollover on the quote?

I was just curious if you guys got used to the way the quotes work now? Is it just me who is still bothered by the change? If yes, I will shut up and never bring it up again.

But I just wanted to say (yet again) that if you want to read a longer thread it's such a pain to figure out where the quotes are coming from.

Nope, not just you. I hate it even more now that I've tried it out over and over again. I like to "put a face/screen name" to people I'm replying to. Doesn't matter though what we like or dislike.

I will agree with.. almost complete forum on that matter :)

It is not the way usual communication develops, we communicate about different issues with somebody. Other aspects of interaction often are more defining the discussion than argument A or B. In order to adequately respond to something we usually count with the fact to whom the reply is addressed to.

This is totally artificial, doesn't reflect the way conversation in natural conditions flows.

It is an attempt of a move towards solipsism where you ideally debate with yourself weighing arguments and contra arguments (source irrelevant) , closing yourself in the your private autistic world. This idea resembles the 'flaw' of Western philosophy where it all starts and ends in one self. Cogito ergo sum is wrong, we know it now for sure, so now give us back the quotes :))))

people are beings (also) defined by interaction.

Is some philosopher by education behind this idea? ;)

Dear Admin,

it looks like a couple of people are still bothered by the way the quotes work now. Are you planning to modify this feature or is it going to stay the way it is now?

Merged: No name in quotation reduced quality of forum. Its not good

Why there is no name in quotations? It is much better when you see the name (to whom quote) in quotations. Anonymous quotations are bad idea