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guesswho 4 | 1,296    
23 Jul 2011  #31

Hopefully at least 1 person agrees :

good intentions but I still prefer the way it was.

Hey ADMIN, why don't you let us vote???


skysoulmate 14 | 1,290    
23 Jul 2011  #32

Tyrants have no regard for democracy.

...in all honesty, this is not a democracy, it's a private forum, he/she can have any rules he/she wants. I'm simply making my point.
Admin 32 | 1,522  Administrator  
23 Jul 2011  #33

Sometimes they wander for a while only to return to the original topic.

Let's ask moderators who - after removing 200 off-topic posts out of a 240 post thread - agree :|

How about this - incorporate a "vote" function on this forum and let the members decide. I bet you $100 that the vast majority will disagree with you on this one and will ask to have the names back next to the quotes. Deal or no deal?

It depends on individual goals. If users come here just to have fun and relax discussing nothing specific then they may agree with you. But those who visit PolishForums to find out what's up in Poland, learn the Polish language, or discuss anything related to Poland and Polish people may not agree with you.

good intentions but I still prefer the way it was.

No username attribution didn't stop us from keeping on topic and having a relevant conversation, did it.
guesswho 4 | 1,296    
23 Jul 2011  #34

after removing 200 off-topic posts

often wrongfully

No username attribution didn't stop us from keeping on topic and having a relevant conversation, did it.

well, wait and see if all of us will accept your new concept and still participate as much as we used to.
I can only talk for myself and I know, it will be much less from me since I don't feel comfortable looking for the replies to my posts.
Llamatic - | 144    
23 Jul 2011  #35

guesswho: well, wait and see if all of us will accept your new concept and still participate as much as we used to

We can each of us override Admin and his childish meddling here by merely adding the attributions manually to our quoted posts.
This will likely send a control freak like him into a snit. Lol.
Admin 32 | 1,522  Administrator  
23 Jul 2011  #36

well, wait and see if all of us will accept your new concept and still participate as much as we used to.

Lurkers, now please safely go ahead, register, and start posting (some of you again) to show how many of you there are ;).

We can each of us override Admin and his childish meddling here by merely adding the attributions manually to our quoted posts.

Sometimes attribution is useful. But most of the times, I strongly believe, is not, so you can add attributes whenever necessary.
guesswho 4 | 1,296    
23 Jul 2011  #37

Lurkers, now please safely go ahead, register, and start posting to show how many of you there are ;).

your forum, your decision. Thank God, we're all free to make decisions that suit our preferences.
ender 5 | 401    
23 Jul 2011  #38

This new quote attribution thingy is horsesh*t, as my beloved Grandpa used to say--God rest his soul.

Just to clarify it is not quoting anymore it's citing so people would take even less responsibility for own writing. If's not good idea at all. Above it I like buttons arrangement it looks neat.
Ashleys mind 3 | 456    
23 Jul 2011  #39

Oh I get it... you're trying to make this forum more appeasing to people who don't even use it yet, rather than for people who come here everyday and enjoy doing so...?

It completely changes the style of the forum and you know that. If I dropped into this forum as a newbie and noticed the quotes were not referenced by user, I would find it much harder to ''make friends'' and would certainly feel it more like an anonymous information board than a forum for true social interaction.

Surely it is a key feature of any forum to have quotes referenced by user... what's the problem?! The users have spoken, you disagree... you should administer/ moderate this board, not take total control of it and make it pointless to those already using it.

It will be almost entirely non-engaging. I mean do you get it??
skysoulmate 14 | 1,290    
23 Jul 2011  #40

I've tried to get used to this new "anonymous quote" feature, I still hate it!!! Feel like I'm having conversation with a wall... Ironically yesterday I meant to compliment you for highlighting our names in red when quoting, it made it so easy to follow my own and others' quotes.

Like here:

Mam Pytanie. Czy możemy mówić o niczym w szczególności?
polishforums.com/rozmowy-po-polsku-41/mam-pytanie-czy-mozemy-mowic-o-niczym-w-szczegolnosci-50567/9/#msg1152582

I forgot to post and when I came back, all the names were removed...

It's perplexing that you don't see the overall sentiment here? :(
teflcat 5 | 1,035    
23 Jul 2011  #41

Torq quoted. it will all end up with a schizm and loss
of many valued members of PF. I would hate to see that happen

But would you really boycott the site for, say, 48 hours? It might focus minds if half the membership just disappeared. Google ads might ask questions. On the other hand, who knows, admin might just bite the bullet and changed it back. It's clearly deeply unpopular.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,290    
23 Jul 2011  #42

As a protest I will now start retyping people's screen names when I'm quoting them. Below is an example.

[Mr. Torq said this and I had to retype his name - shame on you admin!!!]

I wasn't talking about boycotting the site, Teflcat...

Wroclaw Boy    
23 Jul 2011  #43

Debating is the back bone of this forum, the debates are going to become more time consuming and confusing as a result of the new changes. This is going to bad in the long run no doubt about it.
Wroclaw 45 | 5,409    
23 Jul 2011  #44

instead of making idiotic posts to show how you think the system doesn't work. why not try and make valid posts and observe how it does work.

all you are doing is turning this thread into another random chat.

there are already some good examples of the new system, if only you'd look.
Ashleys mind 3 | 456    
23 Jul 2011  #45

I know it's a pain in the butt and really doesn't matter but most of your quotes aren't showing. I think you've used this } instead of this ]

Yes, but it's more comely...

We want our quotation tools!!!

(And some Ham.) :))

instead of making idiotic posts to show how you think the system doesn't work. why not try and make valid posts and observe how it does work.

But none of us want it. Why don't you stop making idiotic changes?

See... if I had come back in an hour and typed that (not that you'd want to) but you'd have to read the whole thread to see which quotes were directed to you, rather than just scan by name...

Stoopid!

It's a pointless idea... it has no point. None whatsoever, apart from serving *your* agenda... whatever *that* is...

Wroclaw - give the city a bad name - moderator. all you are doing is turning this thread into another random chat.

So??? The only person bothered by it is you!
teflcat 5 | 1,035    
23 Jul 2011  #46

Wroclaw quoted. why not try and make valid posts and observe how it does work.

Because most of us think it doesn't work.
JonnyM 12 | 2,634    
23 Jul 2011  #47

Indeed. It is an annoying and unneccessary change. It should be changed back - at the moment it is confusing, especially from the main menu.
gumishu 10 | 4,487    
23 Jul 2011  #48

Just testing how to add the missing quote attribution - Admin you completely messed the forum and you know itThe following sentence was posted by the user teflcat - but the Admin wouldn't want you to know that:Because most of us think it doesn't work.

skysoulmate 14 | 1,290    
23 Jul 2011  #49

Wroclaw [Moderator] Today, 14:02 Reply / Quote #104
instead of making idiotic posts to show how you think the system doesn't work. why not try and make valid posts and observe how it does work.

all you are doing is turning this thread into another random chat.

there are already some good examples of the new system, if only you'd look.

Have you been following this thread? Maybe you should read all the messages before you start slamming our "idiotic" posts? The fact is many of us here have tried to get used to this new feature but it's so idiotic that it's futile. How the hell are you supposed to have a conversation with someone when you aren't sure who you're talking to? After 2, 3 posts you lose the concept of who you're having a conversation with and have to keep re-reading the damn thread. This is by far the stupidest change I've ever seen, not just on this forum but on any forum I've ever participated in.

Many changes have been for the good, and if you check my past posts I've always mentioned changes that were appreciated, this one is simply horrendous.
Ashleys mind 3 | 456    
23 Jul 2011  #50

Quoting myself because it's easier than quoting anyone else. But none of us want it. Why don't you stop making idiotic changes?

But I see the issue here... fact is *you* can probably be here much more than the average poster.. and so therefore have more of an idea about whom said what about what and so forth..

However for those posters with a full-time job and other commitments, following a thread without names on quotes can be extremely difficult. In a thread fast filling up with posts, it will damn near impossible to have a directed conversation with someone... and will prevent more people from just being able to ''pop by'' amidst all their other daily chores to participate in a casual conversation.

Do *you* understand?
JonnyM 12 | 2,634    
23 Jul 2011  #51

This is by far the stupidest change I've ever seen, not just on this forum but on any forum I've ever participated in.

Many changes have been for the good, this one is simply horrendous.

Agreed.
Ashleys mind 3 | 456    
23 Jul 2011  #52

Another question to the moderators and one more thing before I go...
Whose feelings are you trying to protect with this?? 'Cause on technical grounds, this is a big FAIL!!

Afterall, aren't you supposed to be making this forum more user-friendly on a technical basis, not to protect people's feelings from getting hurt by racist remarks?? And then, when there's a conflict of interest, aren't you supposed to devise a strategy which isn't so obviously intrusive to the everyday ease of use of this forum that people would actually consider not coming here??

Are you here to sabotage or protect?
And are we *really* being watched by Interpol for demonstrations of racism???

Please clarify... (No need to quote.) ;)

Goodnight.
OP Bzibzioh    
23 Jul 2011  #53

Wroclaw: there are already some good examples of the new system, if only you'd look.

No, there isn't. I took your advise just to be fair - and tried to follow the "Germanisation" thread. It's impossible to follow. For example: when someone says "your country" I have no clue which country he's referring to, as I don't know who he's quoting. It becomes incoherent and tiring by fifth post. You are going to lose posters. Unless if that's the point, it makes no sense whatsoever. I, for one, will take a break until the sanity is restored.
A J 4 | 1,094    
23 Jul 2011  #54

I, for one, will take a break until the sanity is restored.

I guess this means until never!

xD
delphiandomine 82 | 15,963    
23 Jul 2011  #55

You are going to lose posters. Unless if that's the point, it makes no sense whatsoever. I, for one, will take a break until the sanity is restored.

The new system is clearly working well :)

To be honest, it doesn't make any difference to me. It's different, PF always has been a bit different to the rest.... :)
Seanus 15 | 19,750    
23 Jul 2011  #56

As Wrocław knows, I was never a user of the quote function but I do wonder why the username has been taken away. I think a move the other way would have been better, i.e username plus post no. That way, the flow of the forum would have been that bit better but Admin clearly had some improvement in mind.
Wroclaw Boy    
23 Jul 2011  #57

[Wroclaw Boy] said this:

Debating is the back bone of this forum, the debates are going to become more time consuming and confusing as a result of the new changes. This is going to bad in the long run no doubt about it.

People like to debate in person and read them, i became a member from reading a debate back in 2006. Who the hell is going to sign up with nameless confusing sentences all over the place, i can certainly say im not going to be posting much under these new restrictions. Its just nuts.

Come on Admin give it up, you're not going to win this one mate.
Torq 25 | 2,262    
23 Jul 2011  #58

Wroclaw Boy: i can certainly say im not going to be posting much under these new restrictions

Same here. I don't know what is Admin's aim, but if it's depriving users of any joy
from posting on his forum, then he's doing quite well at the moment.
Admin 32 | 1,522  Administrator  
23 Jul 2011  #59

How the hell are you supposed to have a conversation with someone when you aren't sure who you're talking to? After 2, 3 posts you lose the concept of who you're having a conversation with and have to keep re-reading the damn thread.

Why don't you try to discuss the issue / problem / question instead? When an anonymous poster with a nickname 'Guest034' posts a question, do you really need to know who s/he is to address the question? If you need to have a conversation, you may use the private message instead. Even if you think you know who someone is, they are still anonymous people, unless you met them offline in private.

Btw. How many of you knows there's the 'Quote up' feature:

Up

- you can get back to the quoted message quickly.
Natasa 1 | 590    
23 Jul 2011  #60

I don't know what is Admin's aim

It's making us read all, even the most boring posts?

It's creating a riddle, we have to think who's brilliance was quoted? (if we give up reading it all)

It's Admin's way to operationalize the problem of hierarchy and power?

It's his way of saying that we are boring, all of us, repetitive and there is no real reason to have the identity of the one quoted, it is known and redundant?

I think that he thinks we are all very gifted, so depriving us from relevant information will only boost our vast potentials.

That is my opinion that doesn't suffer from omnipotence.




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