Ktos 16 | 440 4 Dec 2017 #1If Polish are prohibited from making comments or threads about Jews then Jews should not be allowed to participate in this forum and comment on Polish matters. Fair? I think very fair.You need to find a forum about Jews or Muslims if this topic is interesting to you; this forum is about Poland. From our experience, allowing discussions about Jews, Muslims, or other nations / races / religions have attracted a lot of Internet trolls. You may discuss it in DIRECT relation to Poland / Polish people only (but not in general terms). If you continue questioning that, you'll get suspended.
OP Ktos 16 | 440 4 Dec 2017 #2Merged: Jews and lefties run this forum - what is Polish about it?Why else would we be prevented from criticising Jews? Why are Jews the only group that is free from any negative critique on this forum and others are prohibited from criticising them?
jon357 72 | 21,050 4 Dec 2017 #4Why are Jews the only group that is free from any negative critique on this forumAre they? I see some pretty negative stuff about various 'groups', often from you.
Ironside 52 | 11,774 4 Dec 2017 #5Debating Jews on some obscure forums with anonymous (so the think) posters is just a pointless exercise. Just give it a rest!Commies. progressives and all kind of lying leftie activist are on the other hand the real villains and a real threat. They're mostly pitiful but vile morons and bad or stupid people as well.
OP Ktos 16 | 440 4 Dec 2017 #6@IronsideAnd who was trying to break Poland up in the 1920s and especially 1930s? Communist parties lead by Jews, most communists were Jews and their agenda was not about human rights, gay rights, animal rights, it was about ensuring that Polish nationalism dies out, that we become part of a meddle of nations with no identity so that it will be easier to rule us. The side effect of communism was partially a good thing but incidental - focus on matters from communal point of view as oppose to looking at things through money, doing everything for profit. That is where benefit on societal morality ends when it comes to communism. Communists are not good for Poland and Jews are major players in this anti-Polish wrongdoing. Where do KOD commies got their propaganda money from? Soros. Who is Soros? A Jew.
Ironside 52 | 11,774 4 Dec 2017 #7most communists were JewsNot really. Anyway communist are Jews only when and if that suits them as communists are nationalists only and if it that suits them. In all commies are evil little people who should be exposed for what they really are.Yelling Jews, Jews!!! you only obfuscate the issue.Where do KOD commies got their propaganda money from? Soros. Who is Soros? A Jew.@ KtosNo, Soros is a meddler that have a stake in supporting a progressive neo-Marxist ideology. Being a Jew has no really bearing on it. Clinton is not a Jew nor are most of the EU commissioners.Merkel is not a Jew and so on.Rather than focusing on somebody DNA let focus on their agenda and deeds.If not for any other reason then for a fact that your approach doesn't solve or explain anything but rather muddle the waters and nowadays give you a label of a nutter.
jon357 72 | 21,050 4 Dec 2017 #8most communists were JewsThe overwhelming majority of the 3 million Poles who were Communist Party members were not Jewish.
Wulkan - | 3,243 4 Dec 2017 #9this one is fine and the mods do a good jobI agree, suspended trolls like delphiandomine and Harry show that mods know what they are doing.Who is Soros? A Jew.Only by DNA, in reality is an atheist, a very evil one.
kaprys 3 | 2,266 4 Dec 2017 #10@KtosWhat about Polish Jews? Should they also be banned from the Polish forum.Seriously, people are people. You can't blame Jews for all things bad in Poland.Some Jews are great, some are not. The same applies to Poles.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,643 4 Dec 2017 #12@KtosFact!Some Jews are great, some are not. The same applies to Poles.Also fact. The Jews who are scum are primarily Zionists and pseudo liberals who will push things like gay marriage, open borders, etc on every country EXCEPT Israel - with whom they more often than not hold dual citizenship just as many senators, congressmen, etc. do in the US.Such Zionist and progressive Jews in PL are even harder to detect now that many have altered their names to more Polish sounding or at least less Jewish sounding ones - i.e. Dornbaum is now Dorn.
Lyzko 42 | 9,130 4 Dec 2017 #13While not a Zionist, yet a culturally aware Jew myself, far too many blame ALL Jews for supporting Zionism, thus fueling even greater anti-Semitism:-)
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,643 4 Dec 2017 #14@LyzkoOf course. I'm not against Jews. My gf is a French Jew. What I am against is Zionists and Talmud (as opposed to Torah) abiding Jews. The Jewish groups I actually like the most are the Orthodox ones and I did a lot of business with them when I worked in precious metal brokerage and trade.I believe that Jews should get their own homeland. But the way that it was done - Balfour Declaration, then expulsion of Palestinians, and apartheid towards those who remained and gradually swallowing up their lands via settlements which the UN condemns - is a disgrace. The worst thing is so many Jews promote things like gay marriage, open borders, etc for everyone BUT themselves. It's okay for Jews to do this and hide behind keeping Israel as 'the Jewish state' but its not okay for Poland/Germany/England etc to do the same and say they want to keep their country a 'Polish/German/Swedish/etc state'
Ironside 52 | 11,774 4 Dec 2017 #15I'm not against Jewsstop talking about yourself all the time. It is not about you. You have already said it all ten time over.Your gf has nothing to do with anything here. Neither are Zionists or Talmud.This ktos seems to be obsessed with Jews and need some help or is a paid Russian troll. Every which way it is not a time nor the place for your urge to talk about yourself.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,643 4 Dec 2017 #16I was talking to lyzko, not you.Ktos is telling the truth anyway. Every pole knows Jewish Bolsheviks brought communism to Poland which screwed the country up for decades.
Ironside 52 | 11,774 4 Dec 2017 #17I was talking to lyzko, not you.you were talking to anyone who deign to read this forum, He would have to be senile to not know about your gf and so on....Every pole knows Jewish Bolsheviks brought communism to PolandSoviet Russia brought commie occupation to Poland.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,643 4 Dec 2017 #18Soviet Russia brought commie occupation to Poland.whatever helps you sleep at night
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,643 4 Dec 2017 #20Of course not. The leaders of Bolsheviks were overwhelmingly Jews, PL Jews helped bring these people to power in post ww2 Poland and instill communism, and were drastically overrepresented in the security services of the state. Jewish Commies also killed AK members, plundered the country, put thousands of Polish activities in activists in prison or simply killed em. With Jews, you lose. Or more specifically Zionists/jewish commies/etc.... the orthodox and groups like netuya karta are alright in my book and I support their efforts. I've worked with jews, specifically Israelis, I know what makes these people tick.
Ironside 52 | 11,774 4 Dec 2017 #21Of course not.Says he just in the next paragraph goes on about some issues he clearly doesn't understand.Poland has been done by Soviets - Stalin and their sidekicks.
Lyzko 42 | 9,130 4 Dec 2017 #23The Nazis came down especially hard on Jews because they associated the Jews with Communists and Communists aka Kurt Eisner, with chaos, confusion, and disorder, qualities particularly enethema to the German Weltanschauung or world view.The latter is not a stereotype, unflattering as it may well be, but a fact rooted in historical reality!Jews were called "rootless" wanderers by Hitler and others because they were never allowed to integrate into the fabric of European society from the Middle Ages until nearly after the Enlightenment, shunted aside by the Catholic Church en masse and summarily excluded from joining either the local militia (except if they converted) or the tradesmen's guilds which would have allowed to learn a valuable skills which would contribute to the community.
jon357 72 | 21,050 4 Dec 2017 #24The Nazis came down especially hard on Jews because they associated the Jews with Communists and Communists aka Kurt EisneThe ideological roots of that evil philosophy and their hatred of Jewish people long predates the rise of Bolshevism. Furthermore, members in their rural/small town heartland had been predjudiced for centuries.
TheOther 6 | 3,690 4 Dec 2017 #26The Nazis came down especially hard on Jews because they associated the Jews with CommunistsEver heard of the Dolchstosslegende (Stab-in-the-back myth)?
Lyzko 42 | 9,130 4 Dec 2017 #27All too familiar with that particular heresy of the Nazis:-) 'Course, everybody knows also that the Jews used gentile's blood for Passover wine, right?LOL - smileyYeah, tell us another!Goebbels was right. You repeat the Big Lie often enough, people will start to believe it, no matter often how smart the people or how big the whopper.
TheOther 6 | 3,690 4 Dec 2017 #29@LyzkoThe hate that Hitler and the Nazis had for the Jews was largely based on that myth. I'm not saying that the myth is true. Don't put words in my mouth, Lyzko - I'm extremely allergic to that.
OP Ktos 16 | 440 5 Dec 2017 #30@LyzkoLet's not forget the urge of the Jews, at the beginning of the war, to join Hitler, which was what many Jews did do. The Jews hoped to share Poland with Hitler's Germany and they happily helped Hitler in overtaking Poland only to learn shortly afterwards that Hitler had other plans. Nevertheless, many Jews continued to help Hitler murder Polish (all over the place - civilians, soldiers alike) and even fellow Jews, especially in Jewish ghettos. Of course, Jewish cinema god, Rebe Spielberg - also war historian - somehow omitted that part in his one sided "masterpiece" Shindler's List. The reasons why we never hear about this is because Jews go on and on and on about their tragedies completely ignoring others, so that all focus is on Jewish, out of proportion, martyrdom, whereas when someone tries to present the other side of Jewish activities during war Jews attack them with anti-Semitism or push for prohibition of expression as it the case on this forum, hence my thread here.