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Harry Activity: 67 / 12,898
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13 May 2014  #31

If you write some stupid thing and someone point it out

Personally I'd much like to see a 'strikethrough' option for text, where people could strike through text that they have written and by striking it out show that they admit that they were wrong and no longer say what they said.

smurf Activity: 39 / 2,023
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13 May 2014  #32

This place most certainly isn't a relic of the '90s!

From a design and functionality perspective it certainly is :)

There's plenty of free software out there that would make a huge improvement to the functionality of this site. It would even help Admin to get more hits and to appear better on page searches.

If you write some stupid thing and someone point it out then you can't go back and edit it saying that you have never said that like many awkward posters would like to do.

That's a weird and way of thinking.
Why is it your aim to make people look stupid?
Can't we all just at least try to get along?
Like I've said before, people here just aren't nice and it's no surprise to see that posters aren't exactly flocking here.

If you quoted someone's

stupid thing

then obviously if they did edit it later then your quote would show they tried to pull a fast one.

Personally I'd much like to see a 'strikethrough' option for text, where people could strike through text that they have written and by striking it out show that they admit that they were wrong and no longer say what they said.

That would work, not on this site though. I doubt that the 1990s code this site is based on allows for such a function to be added, a web developer would be required to be hired to built it...........and that ain't gonna happen.

A 'like' or 'thanks' button would be good too, so if you agree with a poster you can hit on that.......of if they give an answer/info that you're looking for you can 'thank/like' it.

Again the code of this site more than likely wouldn't have that function built in and, the same, a web developer would need to do it.
Wulkan Activity: - / 3,011
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13 May 2014  #33

Why is it your aim to make people look stupid?

you have a real talent for driving wrong conclusions

Can't we all just at least try to get along?

You want to get along with trolls? people who have come here to annoy people for the sake of their own entertainment? good luck!

A 'like' or 'thanks' button would be good too, so if you agree with a poster you can hit on that

I was thinking about it before but that would mostly be used in all those arguments and just create a55 licking circles.
Vincent Activity: 9 / 809
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13 May 2014  #34

And the short edit time is nonsense as well, can't go back and change a spelling error is ludicrous.

There is a preview button, that you can view your post before hitting ' post message' and you can take as long as you wish.

Of course, that's very true, I'm just saying their website is a lot nicer looking....modern looking at least and a lot more functional than this relic of the 1990s.

The site is very easy on the eye(s) and also for this reason, it loads faster than 95% of all other websites. The old adage ' you can't have your cake and eat it ' springs to mind.
smurf Activity: 39 / 2,023
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13 May 2014  #35

you have a real talent for driving wrong conclusions

Yawn
Always trying to stir sh!t.

Whatever.

There is a preview button

Yea, that has very little to do with going back and editing something. By definition you can't edit before something is posted.

The site is very easy on the eye(s)

No, it's definitely not. It's pretty rank as modern forums go.

Clean design has been the vision of the last few years.

For example:
forums.digitalpoint.com
flickr.com/help/forum/fr-fr
windowsforum.com/threads/ati-game-launching-tool-for-custom-profiles.47689

It's a relic of Web 1.0, the non-existent functionality and dreary design highlights that.
Harry Activity: 67 / 12,898
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13 May 2014  #36

There is a preview button, that you can view your post before hitting ' post message' and you can take as long as you wish.

Not for people posting via an Android device there isn't.
Vincent Activity: 9 / 809
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13 May 2014  #37

But is there not time to read it and check, before pressing 'post'?
Wulkan Activity: - / 3,011
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13 May 2014  #38

Always trying to stir sh!t.

and again

you have a real talent for driving wrong conclusions

Yea, that has very little to do with going back and editing something.

you still have 5 minutes to edit your post even after you sent it, is that still not enough to correct your spelling mistakes? please...
Harry Activity: 67 / 12,898
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13 May 2014  #39

But is there not time to read it and check, before pressing 'post'?

If one is using a 3.5 inch screen, it's pretty hard to read all of any post which is longer than a couple of lines.
Vincent Activity: 9 / 809
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13 May 2014  #40

Yea, that has very little to do with going back and editing something. By definition you can't edit before something is posted.

It's up to the poster to make sure their post is correct before sending, hence the preview button. This is the same situation with emails, edit before sending, as you won't be able to edit afterwards.

The main reason why editing time is short (5 minutes should be ample) is because as someone else pointed out, many rouge posters would change their posts and deny that they wrote something else.
Harry Activity: 67 / 12,898
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13 May 2014  #41

The main reason why editing time is short (5 minutes should be ample) is because as someone else pointed out, many rouge posters would change their posts and deny that they wrote something else.

So let's have a strike-through edit only option, meaning that one can never removed what one wrote but can correct mistakes or show that one no longer means what one said.
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13 May 2014  #42

Maybe if it concerns Poland and you have a question in English about something in Poland, but normally, no, you'd usually get a link to a website with the info rather than a forum.

You think or you 'feel' (I know, thinking this days is overrated, especially on Facebook and similar social media sites ;).

Also a huge problem with this forum is there was no sense ever of 'community' here. Keyboard warriors were allowed to thrive and it was too late before actions was taken. They put off new posters and the vast majority never returned.

This is a problem of today's young generation of people. They don't want individual responsibility - they demand 'teamwork' and 'community' so that they can play on their smart phones without noticing the reality. ; ) They lack testosterone. They cannot handle a different opinion and are unable to defend their position. They think patting each other on their back creates a community.

the forum is long overdue an update

Right. You miss a Facebook Like button? Or Instagram pictures of celebrities ;)

Like I've said before, people here just aren't nice and it's no surprise to see that posters aren't exactly flocking here.

But you do. I prefer someone not to be nice but saying things as they are or to give different points of view than my personal 'community' that agrees with me all the time.

people here just aren't nice and it's no surprise to see that posters aren't exactly flocking here.

People come here for reality check, different opinions, and the truth. If you want to live in a different world, you may talk to your Facebook friends only - you'll always know what to expect.

Personally I'd much like to see a 'strikethrough' option for text, where people could strike through text that they have written and by striking it out show that they admit that they were wrong and no longer say what they said.

Out of 1000 posts, how many times would you struck yourself? Probably 0, like most posters would. Nobody wants to admit he/she was wrong, no matter what. That's the human nature.

A 'like' or 'thanks' button would be good too, so if you agree with a poster you can hit on that

It's not a very useful functionality because it can artificially distort the reality and doesn't bring anything new to the discussions.

If one is using a 3.5 inch screen, it's pretty hard to read all of any post which is longer than a couple of lines.

So it's the problem of 3.5 inch size, nothing else.
Vincent Activity: 9 / 809
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13 May 2014  #43

So let's have a strike-through edit only option, meaning that one can never removed what one wrote but can correct mistakes or show that one no longer means what one said.

Threads and posts might not look very pretty if this were allowed, besides some posters often put their hands up to an earlier error (if it was the opposite to what they meant) in a later post. Most errors occur when posters rush their posts, without previewing, and we're all guilty of this at some time.
Harry Activity: 67 / 12,898
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13 May 2014  #44

smurf:Personally I'd much like to see a 'strikethrough' option for text, where people could strike through text that they have written and by striking it out show that they admit that they were wrong and no longer say what they said.
Out of 1000 posts, how many times would you struck yourself? Probably 0, like most posters would. Nobody wants to admit he/she was wrong, no matter what.

That was me rather than smurf. I'd probably use the function at least a few times per thousand posts. At the very least to correct what I later learned to be factual mistakes or to reflect changes in reality (e.g. changes to work/residency permit law).

It's not a very useful functionality because it can artificially distort the reality

Especially if 'guest' accounts were able to vote.

So it's the problem of 3.5 inch size, nothing else.

Not really. The Mrs has an Xperia Z1 with a five inch screen and that's not much better when it comes to writing and reviewing a post anything more than a few lines long.
Wulkan Activity: - / 3,011
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13 May 2014  #45

Not really. The Mrs has an Xperia Z1 with a five inch screen and that's not much better when it comes to writing and reviewing a post anything more than a few lines long.

then get her a 10 inch tablet for birthday, you're welcome.
mochadot18 Activity: 12 / 234
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13 May 2014  #46

If anything get her the microsoft surface... Now yourwelcome... I have one and by far the best tablet ever i.dont even like use my other tablets or laptop anymore
smurf Activity: 39 / 2,023
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14 May 2014  #47

please...

I liked you better when you were under my ignore list.

Many of us have asked for that to come back, but the request has fallen on deaf ears.

You think or you 'feel' (I know, thinking this days is overrated, especially on Facebook and similar social media sites ;).

Neither think nor feel, I know for certain. You can find out by searching for an answer to a problem. You'll more than likely be brought to a website/blog than a forum.

Forum attendance is down across the board. People prefer to go to forums that have a specific theme, this one is quite general and has a small target audience. Not many Poles are going to bother reading an English forum about Poland since they don't speak the language to a high level.

This is a problem of today's young generation of people. They don't want individual responsibility - they demand 'teamwork' and 'community' so that they can play on their smart phones without noticing the reality

What a complete load of tosh.

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."

As Socrates said a long, long time ago.

They lack testosterone

I would certainly hope that 50% of young people lack testosterone.....the female ones at least.

I prefer someone not to be nice but saying things as they are or to give different points of view than my personal 'community' that agrees with me all the time.

No, that doesn't cut it. There's no reason why people shouldn't be civil to each other.
Why for years have you constantly allowed racists/sexist/xenophobic language on this forum?
Is being a racist/xenophobe/sexist

saying things as they

?
I certainly hope you don't think so.

you may talk to your Facebook friends only

I don't have a FB account, it's a pointless website.

But you do

In the vain hope that something interesting might be said. I'm usually disappointed. Lately I've only either tried to help new posters with questions about moving to this dump or the odd comment here and there.

Nobody wants to admit he/she was wrong

Maybe you don't, but if you show me that I'm wrong I've no problem admitting it. How else are we supposed to learn?

Admitting you're wrong and learning from it is basically what makes us conscious beings and different from animals that just live on instinct.

It's not a very useful functionality because it can artificially distort the reality and doesn't bring anything new to the discussions.

Well that's clearly not true and just goes to show that you are in no way familiar with the vast majority of forums on the web. To stay relevant with the modern web you need to keep abreast with developments and trends, if you don't you'll get left behind.........as this site already has. The best thing to do would be to try a revamp with better functionality to try and attract more users.

Free software that's from this century is widely available.

Especially if 'guest' accounts were able to vote.

Ah Harry, come on this site would be nothing without its treasured troll accounts.
WielkiPolak Activity: 45 / 650
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25 May 2014  #48

Merged: How much time do we have to edit our posts?

It can't be more than 5 minutes. I tried to edit mine a few minutes after writing it. Access Denied! Most forums either let you edit your posts freely or until someone else posts after you, then you can't do it in case they say you said something wrong and you try to edit it later. The amount of time we have on here is a stupidly short.
pam  
25 May 2014  #49

It can't be more than 5 minutes.

As far as I'm aware it is about 5 minutes.
If you write your post and then use the preview button, you can check then how your post looks and see if there are any mistakes.

or until someone else posts after you, then you can't do it in case they say you said something wrong and you try to edit it later.

Exactly, and if we had longer editing times no doubt this would happen.

The amount of time we have on here is a stupidly short.

Check everything first using preview.
If you only have a couple of spelling mistakes, 5 minutes is ample edit time to change things.
WielkiPolak Activity: 45 / 650
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25 May 2014  #50

Well having earned the title of mod, I didn't expect you to agree with me, but defend the system obviously.
pam  
25 May 2014  #51

defend the system obviously.

It isn't perfect but many mistakes could be avoided by checking what you've written first and not hurriedly posting something.
JollyRomek Activity: 7 / 484
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17 Dec 2014  #52

Merged: Post editing

It seems that suddenly i am unable to edit my own posts. Any idea why that might be?
pigsy Activity: 7 / 306
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 :-(
17 Dec 2014  #53

It seems that suddenly i am unable to edit my own posts. Any idea why that might be?

means you waited too long to edit your post.
JollyRomek Activity: 7 / 484
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17 Dec 2014  #54

So you can not edit your posts at all after a certain period of time?
pigsy Activity: 7 / 306
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 :-(
17 Dec 2014  #55

yes,threads been merged read up.
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17 Dec 2014  #56

Ok thank you!




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