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Content of Polishforum deteriorating?


after2020
5 Feb 2017 #1
I have the opinion content on Polishforum is deteriorating, most threads seem to be focused on how to get around laws in Poland or those descending into hate speech. Is Polishforum a reflection of people/foreigners in Poland or those with an interest in Poland. maybe this forum has just been hijacked by posters with extreme Policies. It certainly is not a patch on the old PF...
smurf 39 | 1,981
5 Feb 2017 #2
Certainly, it's terrible. Polly has free reign and it has pretty much killed this forum. spam/poland is far better
Wulkan - | 3,251
5 Feb 2017 #3
is far better

You mean nobody is laughing at your posts over there? I'll take a look.
Lyzko 23 | 6,628
5 Feb 2017 #4
PF merely mirrors the present state of world discourse, nothing more:-)
Ziemowit 12 | 3,566
5 Feb 2017 #5
is far better

Is it? Here's the title of one of the threads over there:

"Hi there. I'm an american with Polish ancestry. Anyone care to tell me how to pronounce my last name?"
Chemikiem 6 | 2,081
5 Feb 2017 #6
most threads seem to be focused on how to get around laws in Poland

There have always been those type of threads to be fair, along with the usual visa, cost of living ones etc. I think they are more noticeable now though because the forum is far less busy than it used to be. Many of the posters whose posts I used to enjoy reading no longer post here.

content on Polishforum is deteriorating

I would agree with that. Over the past 18 months or so, the focus seems to have been only on Muslims and American issues. This is supposed to be a forum about Poland and Polish issues, but increasingly it is becoming less so. If it were down to me I would scrap the off-topic completely, so only those with a genuine interest in Poland would post. Some people here have little to no knowledge of Poland and Poland related issues, and can only discuss non-relevant topics, or troll. Of course random chat would have to stay to bin all the unpleasant crap that's posted ;)

maybe this forum has just been hijacked by posters with extreme Policies.

Hammer. Nail. Head.

It certainly is not a patch on the old PF...

No it isn't. For one, there used to be some humour here!

Is it?

Well any forum about Poland is going to have those sort of questions. It is busier than here though, and the member base is almost 5 times smaller. Plus it is doesn't have all the vile posts allowed on this forum. That to me would put new members off staying here, who seriously wants to read non-stop sh1t about Muslims, Gays, Jews etc? There is Stormfront for that.
Wulkan - | 3,251
5 Feb 2017 #7
That to me would put new members off staying here, who seriously wants to read non-stop sh1t about Muslims, Gays, Jews etc?

Exactly, especially when they come here to read sh1t about Poles.
NoToForeigners 6 | 1,002
5 Feb 2017 #8
Maybe people nowadays have less issues with Poland and anything Polish than with Muslims and Yanks?
Ironside 48 | 9,824
5 Feb 2017 #9
That to me would put new members off staying here, who seriously wants to read non-stop sh1t about Muslims, Gays, Jews etc?

To be honest I remember those old golden days of PF and I have been mercilessly and brutally attacked, out of blue by Harry and his cronies by the virtue of having different opinion about Polish issues and reality than through their radical, ideologically biased specs. .

I have seen many people driven away from this forum due to Harry and his mates tactics.

I'm only saying that because you seems to notice only one side of the coin and focusing your attention only on people saying stuff about M, G and Jews.

Funny thing though I bet that most people Harry has driven away wouldn't stand for that radical Sh''t and real racism.

Harry attacking people with normal views cased this forum to radicalise. Stable, seriously people with conservative views left and in their place drifted all kind of mentally unsayable teens.

All thanks to the bully tactic and fanatics of the cultural neo-Marxist.
weg05
5 Feb 2017 #10
'Harry and his mates' have gone and left behind a load of racists and lunatics who insist on discussing completely off topic subjects. Unsurprising when any anonymous thug can post anything they like.
Chemikiem 6 | 2,081
5 Feb 2017 #11
I'm only saying that because you seems to notice only one side of the coin and focusing your attention only on people saying stuff about M, G and Jews.

I notice more than you think I do Iron, but this thread is talking about deteriorating content, and it is obvious I am going to focus attention on what appears to be discussed more than anything else. These topics have little relevance to Poland, as do the threads about Trump, Serbia etc. In the past on PF, there were far more Polish related threads posted, but then there were more posters here too.

As regards posters attacking/bullying each other, I don't think anyone should be allowed to do it, that is something else which makes for unpleasant reading, but that is down to Admin not me, it could be prevented but it isn't being. Freedom of speech isn't all it's cracked up to be, at least on this forum.
Harry
5 Feb 2017 #12
I have seen many people driven away from this forum due to Harry and his mates tactics.

Name three.
johnny reb 18 | 3,675
5 Feb 2017 #13
Pigsy, Amanda and Guess Who want some more ?

The BIGGEST problem I see is that when the mods repeat and repeat and repeat .....
Please back on topic - Poland
which is TOTALLY IGNORED and the VERY NEXT post is TOTALLY OFF TOPIC.
This hijacks the thread as people answer the original Off - Topic post with others following.
The mods patiently removes them and put them in Random Chat.
(They should be simply deleted followed by an "O")
I can honestly say this is not one of Harry's faults.
The back page is set up to discuss Trump, Muslims and to insult each other.
The front page should be TOTALLY about Poland and Polish issues. PERIOD !
If "WE" aren't going to follow these simple rules then "WE" shouldn't be surprised why this forum has been deteriorating.
It is up to "US" to clean it up and start following the simple rules.
When you see an inappropriate or off topic post click on the 'X' in that post box and report it.
It's up to US to fix the problem if we want this to be a POLISH Forum.
nothanks - | 640
5 Feb 2017 #14
This is supposed to be a forum about Poland and Polish issues, but increasingly it is becoming less so.

Simply a reflection of reality: Poland is very influenced by foreigners, foreign cultures and foreign nations. I remember the forum being flooded with PiS threads before - maybe there is stability now in that regard?
Wulkan - | 3,251
5 Feb 2017 #15
I have seen many people driven away from this forum due to Harry

A lot of them didn't even manage to create an account. I remember one Swedish guy who wrote a topic how he was fed up with the Political situation in his country and wanted to move to Poland. Then Harry came and politely told him to fcuk off to Russia instead. Cases like that you could probably count in dozens.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
5 Feb 2017 #16
The front page should be TOTALLY about Poland and Polish issues. PERIOD !

Impossible as long as threads like "Americans try to defame Poland yet again" or "Do Polish people like Turkish people?" (just examples) are created. You automatically attract opposing views, which can get nasty at times. Always has. Topic drift within threads is normal. You cannot control that either. Dropping the word "Poland" in a sentence doesn't make it a topic about Poland.
johnny reb 18 | 3,675
5 Feb 2017 #17
I totally agree with you.
Just because the word Poland is in the Title of the thread does not make it something directly concerning Poland.
Those threads are for nothing more then trolling to make an individuals personal point.
They should immediately be moved to the back page.
Also when a 'Guest Poster' has posted over six posts they are no longer a 'Guest' and should be required to join or quit posting.
Crow 137 | 7,709
5 Feb 2017 #18
See, I still sense at least hint of free spirit of sarmatism in Polish forums. Owner and mods tries to cope with malformed times in which we all live.
Harry
5 Feb 2017 #19
Pigsy, Amanda and Guess Who

Pigsy wasn't driven away by anybody, pigsy got himself permanently banned by posting vile lies about another member's Mrs.
Amanda is still posting here, as you will well know.
I very rarely interacted with Guess Who and would challenge you to quote from even a single post in which I was even remotely less than pleasant to him.

Cases like that you could probably count in dozens.

So name three, unless you're being as economical with the truth as you usually are.
Wulkan - | 3,251
5 Feb 2017 #20
with the truth

Surprisingly you din't deny the case I said about, that would be a lie hard to get away with wouldn't it.
Ironside 48 | 9,824
6 Feb 2017 #21
As regards posters attacking/bullying each other,

Honestly Chemikiem I don't longer care for any of it. To improve this forum to make it better to debate about pro and cons of certain policies and the way this forum is moderated. I comply with what the PF's rules as best I can and post for fun or entertainment.

I'm not gonna deny that I'm attached to this forum by the force of habit. If someone attacks me I attack back even more, go against the grain and all that. So the fact I was attacked by the group posters who obviously tried to drive me away from this forum while mods and Adm. have being doing nothing about it - make me stick to my guns and to stay here.

If not for Harry and his mates I wouldn't be posting here for long. Taking about irony. lol!
However even today I remember that shock I felt that I have been attacked in such a way totally out of the blue just for expressing of my opinion.

For example I said that Poland is a Christian country - such a racist statement lol!

In the past on PF, there were far more Polish related threads posted, but then there were more posters here too.

At one point - it was as you say. I don't disagree with your assessment of the present state of the PF but I have added something about reasons for all that deterioration that you omitted or altogether missed.

that is down to Admin not me

Yes, it is up to him and that is his business and his problem or joy. I'm only posting here. :)

Name three.

Freebird, Amanda, Jason, Torq, Bzibzioh and foremost that Polish dude from Canada whose moniker I keep forgetting and whose daughter's visit to Poland Harry used to apply a pressure on the poor guy, implying a threat. Plus plenty of people who posted here three or maybe ten times to be brutally attacked by Harry or Delphian and stopped posting at all - driven away by their bulling.

lot of them didn't even manage to create an account. I remember one Swedish guy

Right. In the past there were many number of cases like that.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
6 Feb 2017 #22
However even today I remember that shock I felt that I have been attacked in such a way totally out of the blue

Come on, Iron - as if you were always PF's little angel. In the end, all of us are ultimately responsible for the state this forum is in. Both in a positive and negative way.
Ironside 48 | 9,824
6 Feb 2017 #23
Come on, Iron - as if you were always PF's little angel.

Come other, I started posting on PF about four or five months before you. You don't know what I have been like at the start. The point is not that I have been an angel or not but that I haven't been given a chance.

Furthermore I don't complain about that, for me it was fun, I like challenge, controversy and fight.
I'm simply pointing out that such an atmosphere that had been created by Harry and his cronies on PF and organized bulling that they subjected people on here had been detrimental to the forum.

By driving off a lot of valuable people who otherwise would be a great assent on this or any forum just because they didn't see eye to eye on some issues with Harry and his mates. (didn't share his ideological bias.)

In the end, all of us are ultimately responsible for the state this forum is in.

Yes to some extend, mainly it is responsibility of the owner/administrator and only as a distant second those posters who decided to stay and post in here. I'm talking on the other hand about those who had been chased away from here by fanatics not only from the 'right'(as Chemikiem claims) but mainly from the left.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,566
6 Feb 2017 #24
I still sense at least hint of free spirit of sarmatism in Polish forums.

The very free spirit of Sarmatism should remain the essence of this forum. I can only hope that Poland, Serbia and some other countries are heading in that direction and Great Sarmatia will soon become reality in our lives.
Chemikiem 6 | 2,081
6 Feb 2017 #26
I remember the forum being flooded with PiS threads before -

True, but not entirely surprising with a relatively newly elected government, and PiS threads are about Poland. I was pointing out that an ever increasing number of threads are not.

I have added something about reasons for all that deterioration that you omitted or altogether missed.

I haven't missed anything Iron, but the problems you are talking about can only be fixed by the rules actually being enforced. They haven't been in the past, and they aren't now. It is one thing to disagree with points someone has made on a thread, but quite another when personal battles are allowed to escalate. But hey! It's not my forum.

Maybe people nowadays have less issues with Poland and anything Polish than with Muslims and Yanks?

You could be right, and given the state of world affairs at the moment, it's not surprising, but there are other forums if people want to discuss American/Muslim issues. This forum is for people with an interest in Poland.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
6 Feb 2017 #28
I haven't been given a chance.

Okay, fair enough - I don't know what happened to you before I became a member. Although, if I recall correctly PF was quite a rough place in those days. Much less PC, a lot more personal attacks, but better content.
Wulkan - | 3,251
7 Feb 2017 #29
Much less PC, a lot more personal attacks, but better content.

Better content? It was literally forum of the Ku Klux Klan where you replace black people with Polish people, but you wasn't around during those days...
TheOther 5 | 3,831
7 Feb 2017 #30
Better content?

When I joined in July 2009, there were tons of history, genealogy and politics related threads. One of the reasons why I signed up. Also lots of interesting, edgy people around like Torq, Bratwurst Boy, Seanus and others. And I remember some very lively discussions, too.

It was literally forum of the Ku Klux Klan

Hmmm. Who were those members? Any names?

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